VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[funkymonkeyjedi]

It doesn't make you a monster, but it does make you an asshole. Can you at least agree with that?

• A friend calls you saying he is sick and asks for help, you accept.

• Minutes before you visit your sick friend, you receive an invitation to spend the rest of your day doing something more enjoyable with someone else.

• You accept the invitation and leave your sick friend waiting for someone who won't come.

Do you understand that this is a question of morals? It seems simple, but it says a lot about you.

I would feel like an ass hole if that sick friend was also a cripple, which is far from the case with Sage. Her only reason for asking the MC there is a pretty fucking lame one (I just feel like the other girls look at me with pity) <--- to me that's a "Let's call the Waaaambulance! cause I'm just looking for a reason to shove my tits in your face again!"

And I also agree with the whole premise of Jill ditching you if you chose to honor your prior agreement with sage. Specially after she even tells you " Oh I know it's last minute and feel free to say no if you have other plans " <-- that makes Jill a little daddy's little princess that always gets what she wants or fails to consider HER morals for judging you in such a harsh manner. Both Sage and Jill are little manipulative tramps. Sage more so that Jill tho, but Meh.

So the entire "morality" argument falls flat on it's face for arguing for either Jill of Sage. Both angles are poor and lack basis for defense from anyone. It's a moot topic for debate for either of the choices given to you to take and holds very little reality for either choices.

 

[aarbei23]

Spoiler: Makes sense

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Yup, the locked room is indeed her son's bedroom or storage closet containing all his stuff.

And yes, the game is filled with red herrings. It's also why I think Sage will be fine in the long run, as to be the opposite of the redheads in Acting Lessons. The major character I'm worried about is Derek. He's your best friend, player! He's so funny! So nice! But what is he up all the time? And why does he keep asking you about your intentions towards Maya?

But... if he's already dead... Where's the violence?! Where is the bloodshed?! Where is the mayhem?!
Isabella considers herself an adulteress for what reason then? Was she just in a state of eternal denial?

Trauma. Bella simply can't move on and feels like she's betraying him. Hence why the relation with the MC will be a clusterfuck when he finds out. It's going to be fun !

 

[Blurpee69]

But... if he's already dead... Where's the violence?! Where is the bloodshed?! Where is the mayhem?!

Isabella considers herself an adulteress for what reason then? Was she just in a state of eternal denial?

What a nice bucket of cold water if that's true. That's why I hate expectations, they are rarely met. Let's see what DPC has in mind...

I mean, if my wife passed away, I would have a pretty hard time coming to grips with dating someone else. It would feel like I'm betraying her memory, and the love I have for her. Perhaps after several years I could open up to the idea, but like with Bella, I know it would have to be a slow process. We're not really sure how long it's been with Bella. Based on the pictures in her house it doesn't feel like it's been a long time. Perhaps no more than a couple of years.

 

[Lightaces]

There are a few things that bother me in Episode 9, but one of the biggest…

This…

THIS!...

THIS WAS A FUCKING LIE!!!!

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To not have a lewd scene with my little Asian object of obsession is criminal, but to tease me that I can have her when I can't?

Unforgiveable.

If development time were a constraint, I absolutely would have forfeited the Sarah & Mel threesome for some kitty cat coitus. (Don’t even go there, magaclaawe. You know what I mean.)

You know, for the most part, I wouldn't mind this, except she didn't have a scene in episode 8 either. OK, she's a side girl, but she's one of the side girls more central to the story. She shouldn't have three episodes without a lewd scene in a row.

 

[holymoly35cb]

in the rewards 2D art gallery, how do you unlock E9-others branch?

 

[bZokko1]

Bella is not the one killing you with an axe, that will be Sage when she finds out about Jade.
Someone is going to leak the footage to her, and she will lure you somewhere. We will get a first game over scene in a short horror section. Icing on the cake, to survive it you need to do a minigame, and if you have it turned off you are fucked.

Look at Sage eyes in the haunted prison part and tell me she is not going to fucking murder you over Jade.

 

[Lightaces]

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I mean, Sage has always been the best girl.

 

[JavCh]

Bella's backstory has been figured out a year or so ago. So if you want to know... Major spoilers!

Spoiler: Bella's backstory

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[Alphaeboy]

There are a few things that bother me in Episode 9, but one of the biggest…

This…

THIS!...

THIS WAS A FUCKING LIE!!!!

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To not have a lewd scene with my little Asian object of obsession is criminal, but to tease me that I can have her when I can't?

Unforgiveable.

If development time were a constraint, I absolutely would have forfeited the Sarah & Mel threesome for some kitty cat coitus. (Don’t even go there, magaclaawe. You know what I mean.)

You know, for the most part, I wouldn't mind this, except she didn't have a scene in episode 8 either. OK, she's a side girl, but she's one of the side girls more central to the story. She shouldn't have three episodes without a lewd scene in a row.

Yeah, I wished we had a sex scene, but I think they we might get one ep.10, and I'm glad I got Sarah and Mel sex scene together. As soon I saw their asses(Yeah I knew it was them because I watched their sex scenes to much so sue me) that we were going to get the Threesome. It was everything I wanted.

Now, I'm just waiting for these scenes in the future with:
Sally
Cathy
The Dorm Girls
Becky, meh I just wanna hate bang
Another Zoey scene, but I see us having one in ep.11 or 12.
Maybe Cathy & Jade but I don't see that working out, but a boy can dream.

 

[Cabin Fever]

It's a rumor, yes. DPC didn't confirm anything as far as I know. But... it does fit. Especially the freeroam stuff checks out (I think, I haven't played Season 1-2 in a while). I'm also not the only one who came up with this; try using the search function on posts from 2020-2021 I think.

If you do want to go really crazy though... I have a suspicion, based on DPC's writing in Acting Lessons, as to what that "shared event" was.

It DOESN'T fit because Bella went to sleep on the first night when MC got drunk and slept at her place thinking, "when will James come back?" How is he going to come back if he's dead?

Spoiler: Insane Speculations

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OP of this thread was dated Feb 7 2019. I'll give you one guess how far off your estimate is. (Here's another hint: His earlier game's thread's OP was dated May 2 2018.) Also, it's been confirmed over and over again by DPC that his 2 games are separate universes. What happened in one does not affect the other.

In short, wrong, wrong, and wrong again. A+ for effort though.

 

[saynotoNTR]

It DOESN'T fit because Bella went to sleep on the first night when MC got drunk and slept at her place thinking, "when will James come back?" How is he going to come back if he's dead?

James has to be alive, Isabella can't be in such a damaged mental state. How can anyone believe that a dead person will come back to them? I refuse to believe James is dead, it can't be. DPC wouldn't write something so poorly done.

 

[shazba]

When it comes to the Jill & Sage choice, I feel like I’m talking to a brick wall. How you motherfuckers can keep going around in circles on this one blows my mind.

Let’s walk through this, using what we know about the characters and their motivations:

• Sage has a head cold (worst case the flu). She’s not dying, she recovers in a few days (we’ve all been there and typically would have continued our daily grind except COVID makes people treat anyone with a sniffle like a leper these days), and she just feels like a bit of company so she rings the mc.
• If they are just friends, the mc can decline, citing he doesn’t want to catch whatever she’s got, and Sage gets it.
• If the mc is into Sage, or as a friend accepts her request, he can ultimately hang out at her joint, doing random shit for her, random shit that wasn't necessary, it was just his company that Sage was looking for, but his efforts were appreciated. If shit was serious, the other girls would be there for Sage. Like I said, she just wanted a bit of company, and she and the mc have become good friends, if not more.
• If the mc is into Jill (and she is into him), she’ll drop around unannounced to invite him on a birthday picnic. She doesn’t do this if they are just friends, she only makes this effort if the mc and her have a thing going on.
• If you're a real sad cunt, you can go for a run with Leon. This was clearly added to foreshadow the raunchy run that you would not be going on with Jill later in episode 7.
• If you’ve decided to help Sage (or are on her path and help by default), and you’re on Jill’s path and she rocks up like Little Red Riding Hood, just not so little, or wearing a hood, or even wearing red… and Jill rocks up, you’ve got a decision to make:
  1. Choose to visit the sick girl who is expecting you, and let the girl down who has prepared an outing for your birthday; or
  2. Go with the girl who has prepared an outing for your birthday, and let the sick girl who is expecting you know you’ll be coming around later (yes, the mc texts Sage to say he'll see her a little later on and she tells him not to worry).
• Those are tough but reasonable choices.
• If you choose Sage, the picnic is over, it was just bad timing. And it rains later on so there's no salvaging it anyway (even though that was not an option). Jill understands that the mc is seeing a sick friend who is a girl.
• If you choose Jill, the mc texts Sage before he goes. We know that he does that because he tells Jill right before they leave that he’s gotta quickly text someone. Turns out he tells Sage he’ll pop around a little later to see her, she tells him not to bother.
• If you choose Jill, Sage ultimately doesn’t care in the long run.
• If you choose Sage, it triggers a chain of events (or more precisely it doesn’t trigger a chain of events) that lead to the mc and Jill drifting apart.

So that’s what happens. None of it is unreasonable.

So Sage is easy to analyse here. She just wanted company. If the mc declines or suggests a rain check (which is ironic because the rain check would have delayed the visit to when it was actually raining - DPC totally intended this irony to punctuate the juxtaposition of the Jill and Sage personalities... yeah, he did, he told me), nothing eventuates and Sage is momentarily pissed but lets it go. She doesn't sit and stew about it. She doesn't see hidden meanings etc. She's not threatened that the mc doesn't like her, she either knows he likes her, or they are just friends anyway. That's the kinda person Sage is.

Jill, not so simple (I mean the thoughts and events around the circumstances, Jill personally.. yeah, she's simple...). We already know Jill is nervous to be in the relationship with the mc. Her previous foray into the dating scene has left her uninterested, and while she likes the mc, she's not entirely sure about him. There are a lot of red flags when it comes to him from Jill's perspective:

• He gets into fights.
• She's potentially seen him running around with a dick on his head.
• He doesn't keep good company.
• He's very popular with the ladies.
• He has an enormous scary cock (she potentially saw it in the tennis changerooms).

So part of her is excited to have feelings for him, but the other part of her is scared. If he turns her down and gives her more breathing room, her infatuation for him starts to wain and eventually she decides he's not the one for her. It's possibly a relief for her to end things since she was very nervous regarding where they were headed (sex and all that), so when confronted with a "sign" (i.e. him seeing another girl instead of going with her on the picnic she organised), it's just the nudge she needed to slide back into her celibate shell.

It's not hard to accept shit just panned out that way. Sliding doors and all that. It's only difficult to accept if you don't want to accept it. Coming up with alternatives as to how things could have panned out is all well and good, but it didn't.

James has to be alive, Isabella can't be in such a damaged mental state. How can anyone believe that a dead person will come back to them? I refuse to believe James is dead, it can't be. DPC wouldn't write something so poorly done.

It's not James that's dead, it's their kid.

Indisputable evidence that they had a kid and it's dead. Also, they conceived via invitro, they never actually had sex.

 

[saynotoNTR]

It's not James that's dead, it's their kid.

Indisputable evidence that they had a kid and it's dead. Also, they conceived via invitro, they never actually had sex.

Great...double drama? It should be James dead or James and the child dead. If James is still alive, will we still have to deal with the loss of a child? Fucking beautiful... With each passing day the situation with Isabella only gets worse. Jeez...

 

[shazba]

Great...double drama? It should be James dead or James and the child dead. If James is still alive, will we still have to deal with the loss of a child? Fucking beautiful... With each passing day the situation with Isabella only gets worse. Jeez...

Actually the reunion with James surrounding the dead child has already been scripted.

Alternatively, there's @yngve's very disturbing depiction of events:

Spoiler: Some doors were not meant to be opened!

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And then there's a slightly more serious take on things.

 

[saynotoNTR]

Actually the reunion with James surrounding the dead child has already been scripted.

Alternatively, there's @yngve's very disturbing depiction of events:

Spoiler: Some doors were not meant to be opened!

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And then there's a slightly more serious take on things.

I no longer have the slightest idea of the type of plot that the DPC intends to give Isabella, in fact I don't think even the DPC knows... What a mess...

 

[Meushi]

I no longer have the slightest idea of the type of plot that the DPC intends to give Isabella, in fact I don't think even the DPC knows... What a mess...

Don't take what shazba says as gospel, or most other posters here for that matter. The bulk of that is made up or unconfirmed supposition.

DPC knows what's going on (mostly), but he doesn't tell the players, so they regularly make enormous conjectures. And then they get their jollies trolling newbies with far fetched ideas.

 

[saynotoNTR]

Don't take what shazba says as gospel, or most other posers here for that matter. The bulk of that is made up or unconfirmed supposition.

DPC knows what's going on (mostly), but he doesn't tell the players, so they regularly make enormous conjectures. And then they get there jollies trolling newbies with far fetched ideas.

Thanks, dude. I feel a little better now knowing that people have a habit of trolling fans who don't know DPC's work.

 

[DarkKiller]

Actually the reunion with James surrounding the dead child has already been scripted.

Alternatively, there's @yngve's very disturbing depiction of events:

Spoiler: Some doors were not meant to be opened!

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And then there's a slightly more serious take on things.

So, imma just repost my own comments since I can't bother to write it again but basically I think James is long gone.
The theory I find more believable is that they lost a child, James chose the cowards' way and offed himself, Bella was left all alone, met Jill in some kind of therapy session because they both lost someone (Jill lost her sister) but nevertheless Bella never fully recovered.
This could explain why Jill is so important to Bella, why Bella both asks for forgiveness and says she forgives James, and why she has so much difficulty in letting other people into her life.

Also, in EP9 although not much, we do have some additional context, nowhere during her talks with Bella Jill seems to think of James as a problem.

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If you don't pursue Jill, she doesn't seem to have a problem with their relationship, she finds it a bit weird but what she's angry about is the dishonesty from both Bella and MC towards her, if Bella really was cheating, there's no way holier-than-thou Jill would be okay with it, it'd really go against what we've seen from her character so far, just look at the way she reacts if you tell her that her friends are cheating on each other.
So, regardless of what happened between Bella and James, I really don't think MC will ever have to face him.

 

[shazba]

I no longer have the slightest idea of the type of plot that the DPC intends to give Isabella, in fact I don't think even the DPC knows... What a mess...

Don't take what shazba says as gospel, or most other posers here for that matter. The bulk of that is made up or unconfirmed supposition.

DPC knows what's going on (mostly), but he doesn't tell the players, so they regularly make enormous conjectures. And then they get there jollies trolling newbies with far fetched ideas.

Thanks, dude. I feel a little better now knowing that people have a habit of trolling fans who don't know DPC's work.

Let's just clarify that a bit more:

I am talking total bollocks!

There's hopefully a big reveal instore for us regarding Bella's past, and some people may have touched on the right vein, but most theories are pretty wild.

or most other posers here

By the way, I totally resent that!!

So, imma just repost my own comments since I can't bother to write it again but basically I think James is long gone.
The theory I find more believable is that they lost a child, James chose the cowards' way and offed himself, Bella was left all alone, met Jill in some kind of therapy session because they both lost someone (Jill lost her sister) but nevertheless Bella never fully recovered.
This could explain why Jill is so important to Bella, why Bella both asks for forgiveness and says she forgives James, and why she has so much difficulty in letting other people into her life.

Also, in EP9 although not much, we do have some additional context, nowhere during her talks with Bella Jill seems to think of James as a problem.

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If you don't pursue Jill, she doesn't seem to have a problem with their relationship, she finds it a bit weird but what she's angry about is the dishonesty from both Bella and MC towards her, if Bella really was cheating, there's no way holier-than-thou Jill would be okay with it, it'd really go against what we've seen from her character so far, just look at the way she reacts if you tell her that her friends are cheating on each other.
So, regardless of what happened between Bella and James, I really don't think MC will ever have to face him.

Interesting. I never went down that path, the bit where Jill says, "Bella..." That sounds consoling, like Jill is about to let her know it's OK.

 

[DarkKiller]

Interesting. I never went down that path, the bit where Jill says, "Bella..." That sounds consoling, like Jill is about to let her know it's OK.

Exactly, it's clear Jill knows the reason why Isabella thinks she's cheating and her reaction was empathetic, not antagonistic, I find it hard to believe she'd react like this if James still had a place alongside Bella.