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Judging by way Quinn decribes the drug the first time to Tommy it can't be heroin or the like
I can't remember the exact words
 

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DIK or Chick has more to do with how your character treats women than anything at all to do with your frat. With your logic John Boy shouldn't be a member either. Many members wouldn't be in fact.
Really? Maybe status is more women related (all those look don't look) and even then, specially if you play with minigames, it wouldn't be that many. But regarding big choices for affinity I think it's more a general issue related how you treat other people (no matter their gender), how easily you act with violence and how much you follow the rules and law.

Edit: just got this list. Related to how you treat women there would be those in red, I'm not exactly sure what was 6 "Jade", the 7 one is more about smoking than fucking Quinn actually, and 12 would be more about sacrificing for DIKs or not:
  1. Fight Troy (Ep 1, page 40)
  2. Quinns restaurant (Ep 1, 45)
  3. Steve in the Mini-mart (Ep 2,60)
  4. Fight the Alphas or run. (Ep 2,62)
  5. Party without limits at the Pink Rose (Ep 3,80)
  6. Jade (Ep 3,84)
  7. Smoke and have fun with Quinn (Ep 4,113)
  8. Fight Caleb (Ep 5 ,page 13), only possible, if you did fight the Alphas at mayor choice 4.
  9. Punch Tybalt (Ep 5,23)
  10. Fight Tommy (Ep 6,38)
  11. Go with Tommy’s fake ID to McAllens bar (Ep 6,64)
  12. Pink Rose or eldery home (Ep 7,70)
  13. Make the Alphas leave the HOT’s party. (Ep 7,78)
  14. Dereks revenge (Ep 8,108)
  15. Cheating at the midterms (Ep 8,116)
 
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It's definitely heroin or an analogue like morphine, Buddy's sole comment in regards to Quinn's purchase of coke is "why now", it is never hinted at that Quinn doesn't deal other hard drugs.
The heroin trade always implies a certain clientele. Not 3-5 people. Minimum 20-40. If less than 10 grams are sold per day, the supplier simply will not allocate the goods to such a dealer. And this means inevitable cases of overdose. Which would immediately attract attention in college. Perhaps Quinn got it for Tommy, as an exception, several times. But it is unlikely that she systematically sells heroin.
 
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The heroin trade always implies a certain clientele. Not 3-5 people. Minimum 20-40. If less than 10 grams are sold per day, the supplier simply will not allocate the goods to such a dealer. And this means inevitable cases of overdose. Which would immediately attract attention in college. Perhaps Quinn got it for Tommy, as an exception, several times. But it is unlikely that she systematically sells heroin.
Quinn has no aversion to selling heroin, and Tommy has stated that he wants to invite more members of the DIKs to join in his heroin club, he even tried to get Rusty in on it but he refused, I think that Quinn dealing H is something new for this semester and that she hadn't previously, therefore the number of users is still low, but she has to start off somewhere.
 

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Nah, I don't think it heroin. Quinn doesn't seem to buy high level drugs, she only brought cocaine for rich because of the money problems. [Even tho, she isn't fond of Cocaine]
This phantom drug that Tommy uses is very mysterious.

we know that when Quinn asks Buddy for the cocaine for Rick, Buddy is very surprised because Quinn doesn't sell "heavy stuff." we also know about the mother/stepmother and even that would rule out Quinn having anything to do with it

the syringes had been missing for so long (chapter two?) that I thought they were now a buried road, but evidently they will somehow come back into play.

I still think it's a made-up generic drug, a DPCocaine or a DPCrack, which is yes a bad drug, but not as bad as real drugs, to always stay in that limbo that doesn't come to a real conviction.
 

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She says "don't worry, it's not addictive", you should always trust drug dealers when they tell you that.
Thx for reminding me the words
Tommy likes drugs and the game is set around year 2000. How can you believe someone telling you heroin is not addictive ?
Unless you are living under a rock or fell into a coma in the '70 and just reently came back to life
 
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That is a good point, and I'm no expert in these matters, but all Opiates are non the less addictive, and are at least in my opinion interchangeable.


No, it's not, the first time we see the drug it might appear blue, but that is only an artifact of the lighting, we get to see the drug again in E9 , and the liquid completely clear, the syringe plunger is blue.
It's definitely heroin or an analogue like morphine, Buddy's sole comment in regards to Quinn's purchase of coke is "why now", it is never hinted at that Quinn doesn't deal other hard drugs.
This phantom drug that Tommy uses is very mysterious.

we know that when Quinn asks Buddy for the cocaine for Rick, Buddy is very surprised because Quinn doesn't sell "heavy stuff." we also know about the mother/stepmother and even that would rule out Quinn having anything to do with it

the syringes had been missing for so long (chapter two?) that I thought they were now a buried road, but evidently they will somehow come back into play.

I still think it's a made-up generic drug, a DPCocaine or a DPCrack, which is yes a bad drug, but not as bad as real drugs, to always stay in that limbo that doesn't come to a real conviction.
It's most likely heroin, morphine, or some other opiate, and we see the drug in E9, go look further up in the thread for more discussion on the topic.
 
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Thx for reminding me the words
Tommy likes drugs and the game is set around year 2000. How can you believe someone telling you heroin is not addictive ?
Unless you are living under a rock or fell into a coma in the '70 and just reently came back to life
He trusts Quinn, he doesn't think Quinn would lie to him, but Quinn has money to make, and although she sees Tommy as someone she can hang out with, I don't think she's all that attached to Tommy.
 

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Quinn has no aversion to selling heroin, and Tommy has stated that he wants to invite more members of the DIKs to join in his heroin club, he even tried to get Rusty in on it but he refused, I think that Quinn dealing H is something new for this semester and that she hadn't previously, therefore the number of users is still low, but she has to start off somewhere.
It's not about aversion, it's about risk. Heroin in college is an overdose. Overdoses are an investigation. Investigation is a prison. I strongly doubt that she is stupid enough to sell heroin where she lives and studies. Weed and pills are one thing, but heroin is quite another. And the prison term is different.
 

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He trusts Quinn, he doesn't think Quinn would lie to him, but Quinn has money to make, and although she sees Tommy as someone she can hang out with, I don't think she's all that attached to Tommy.
I'm not very convinced
they almost certainly did drugs together, even for a marble head like Tommy if Quinn had refused to use it would have been extremely suspicious.

Quinn is/was not just his dealer, but a girl he was having fun with, that she suddenly didn't feel like getting high would have been extremely suspicious.

there are very few things in BADIk that work as well as they do in the real world, if drugs, a forcibly unnamed drug, were the exception it would be bizarre
 
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It's not about aversion, it's about risk. Heroin in college is an overdose. Overdoses are an investigation. Investigation is a prison. I strongly doubt that she is stupid enough to sell heroin where she lives and studies. Weed and pills are one thing, but heroin is quite another. And the prison term is different.
She has to compete with Vinny as Buddy's statement "if you knew how Vinny operated he wouldn't beat you in volume" implies, it's not just about what Quinn wants, she has expectations placed upon her, she can't perform significantly worse than her drug dealing peers or she risks getting cut off or getting all of her clientele stolen, it's like Rio says, her "expansion" ideas are not well thought out and she's making snap decisions, and she's stressed out, why? Because she has to rapidly expand or die (metaphorically most likely).
 
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I'm not very convinced
they almost certainly did drugs together, even for a marble head like Tommy if Quinn had refused to use it would have been extremely suspicious.
She does use it, at least once, it's shown in game.

Quinn is/was not just his dealer, but a girl he was having fun with, that she suddenly didn't feel like getting high would have been extremely suspicious.
No one ever said anything to that effect, I merely stated that I don't think she's a habitual user of heavy drugs.

there are very few things in BADIk that work as well as they do in the real world, if drugs, a forcibly unnamed drug, were the exception it would be bizarre
What?
 

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He trusts Quinn, he doesn't think Quinn would lie to him, but Quinn has money to make, and although she sees Tommy as someone she can hang out with, I don't think she's all that attached to Tommy.
Looks like a pretty thin argument to me too
You have to go through so many loops
Probably Dpc doesn't know what he's talking about o he had an idea and then made a 180
 
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Looks like a pretty thin argument to me too
You have to go through so many loops
Probably Dpc doesn't know what he's talking about o he had an idea and then made a 180
Also take into account that it might not solely be Quinn pushing it, but Tommy was most likely also curious about using heavier drugs, he's a wild party dude and he wants to experience new and exciting things, like heroin.
 

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Also take into account that it might not solely be Quinn pushing it, but Tommy was most likely also curious about using heavier drugs, he's a wild party dude and he wants to experience new and exciting things, like heroin.
That's why I said he wouldn't believe heroin is not addictive.
He likes drugs and probably knows what everybody and their mother know
 

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She has to compete with Vinny as Buddy's statement "if you knew how Vinny operated he wouldn't beat you in volume" implies, it's not just about what Quinn wants, she has expectations placed upon her, she can't perform significantly worse than her drug dealing peers or she risks getting cut off or getting all of her clientele stolen, it's like Rio says, her "expansion" ideas are not well thought out and she's making snap decisions, and she's stressed out, why? Because she has to rapidly expand or die (metaphorically most likely).
There is another significant nuance here. You need to imagine what the heroin trade looks like. The dealer meets with drug addicts all day. In some pre-arranged place. As a rule, crowds of drug addicts gather there. Quinn can't do that in college. Moreover, drug addicts often visit a heroin dealer without an invitation. Need compels them. Vinny can afford to do something like that. But Quinn is constantly in front of people. She can't afford it. That's why I don't believe Quinn is dealing heroin. She wouldn't be able to hide it.
 

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DIK or Chick has more to do with how your character treats women than anything at all to do with your frat. With your logic John Boy shouldn't be a member either. Many members wouldn't be in fact.
And what about Jam-Jam? :ROFLMAO:
 
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Judging by way Quinn decribes the drug the first time to Tommy it can't be heroin or the like
I can't remember the exact words
There is a game in here, One day at at time, that deals with the day-to-day life of heroin addicts. And it is as realistic as you would expect from a game written and developed by a former heroin addict. I didn't really enjoy the game itself and ended up putting it down. But as an experience about what it's like to lead that shitty lifestyle it is, at the very least, recommendable.
 
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