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remaining in the field of fanfiction without any basis
: Quinn could promise that to Mc in exchange for his help to save herself from something worse- Thread starter N7
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: Quinn could promise that to Mc in exchange for his help to save herself from something worseI mean, yeah, you have adequately described a 18 year old who is drunk nearly their entire waking hours, but also I think you're inferring a lot of knowledge the MC doesn't have (for example, he knows literally nothing about the drugs, smoking some pot with Quinn on a rooftop is a far cry from knowing Quinn is a drug dealer herself) or potentially doesn't have (an MC who didn't take Quinn's number or use the service has very little information, all of which he shares with Maya - she just kind of ignores his advice).
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That just speaks to the larger of adult VNs in general which is that they create a false sense of agency over the MC because of a few choices. Some people seem to expect these games to have Matrix-level freedom that allows them to control almost every aspect of the character and the story at large, but that simply isn't possible, so these games are inevitably guaranteed to run on rails in some way by having unavoidable scenes and moments of drama. The only choice players will ever have is which drama-filled scenes they get to see at certain points and who they want their character to have sex with.
But it still doesn't mean he knows the reason behind it, so the idea that he knows what Quinn is up to and can tell Maya everything after this one incident is not something that is backed up by what's seen in the game.
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Thats cause he doesnt really tell her anything. Uh careful Quinn is evil is not a warning.
I mean, yeah, it's a story so to a certain extent the plot is on rails, but MC has had opportunities to do things which could mitigate or affect the end result, and while we haven't yet seen that have a payoff, I would expect that those decisions will have an impact when things start to come to a head.
I think pretty much 100% there's gonna be a scene in the future where Quinn wants Maya to do something that either itself is a problem or would compromise her in a way that Quinn would gain leverage over her, and Maya will hesitate and not agree to do it or not go to the place in question if the MC warned her, and will go and get entangled in the problem if he didn't.
Yeah, man, that's all he knows at that point. And neither he nor Maya have any reason to believe that the entire HOTs sorority is compromised, in fact, they have a bunch of reasons to think otherwise. I'm really curious which event in the story you think should be MC's huge red flag that he should insist that Maya no longer associate with the HOTs or try to join, or involve the authorities. And are you sure you believe that Maya would even believe him? She has some powerful motivations for not wanting to.
I kinda disagree with that. I have to mention that i have only seen friend path so i don't know if she becomes more assertive on the other. Right now she doesn't strike me as a person who would say no, mainly because of her blind belief and desperation for that tuition, at least not without getting Josy or MC involved. That being said it probably won't happen because there's a certain 3 letter acronym missing in the tags.
I'd say that I think there's one thing you can say for certain and that is that the creator of this game has a history of having pretty well constructed stories. I'm sure not all the details are finalized, but I'm also fairly sure that the broad plot is sketched out.Is it though? Do we know for sure? I wouldn't ever start something like this personally (and I'm tempted, time stops me) without actually having the complete story at the minimum noted out with a clear direction/idea of plot points, endings etc. I know AVN's are not professional in terms of the game/writing industry, but to start one with no clear idea of where it's going, just making it on the fly seems...sloppy at best.
Oh I can sure imagine what she would be offering him hehe. But ya got my point I hope, as she is written as a certain type of person
This person does this for a living. You don't make up your livelihood as you go along, and this person is very good at telling stories, even if people consuming them don't always like the stories he tells (like the end of AL). A lot of people hate the ending of that game (its not exactly fun!), but it's almost certainly the saddest and most upset any adult game has ever made people as far as the fate of a given character or plot event (as opposed to angst over not getting the ending they want or whatever). This person is GOOD at storytelling.
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Granted but depending on path some of this the MC does know. At the very least the prostitution angle he does know, path based, yet he still doesnt say anything. There is no difference, to this point, in the storyline based on MC's knowledge. There is no option to tell Maya about the prostitution even if the MC knows about it. To linear and the players choices dont affect anything so far. Not really anyway. Its all superficial
The first option to "order food" should have been such a flag at the very least.
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I obviously meant that when we can play the full game we'll see some consequences from choices that now leave us a bit frustrated because they don't seem to have an actual impact right now.
This is a good example
I'm sure DPC knows the main story he wants to tell, maybe he's a bit overwhelmed by the potential branching he has created while trying to avoid the 'kinetic novel' feeling, but I guess some judgements about it should wait till the completed game
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Josy would stop her 100%
it is true that Maya tends to be submissive, but she always asks for help from those around her, so either Josy or MC or both would stop her
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Again, that is the nature of fictional stories but you just have to roll with it and accept it for what it is. It's like in the Austin Powers movies where they make that tongue-in-cheek jab at the Bond movies by pointing out how they could just shoot Austin Powers in the head when they have the chance rather trying to use some elaborate, over-the-top method of killing him.
What can he tell her? "I fucked Camila's ass through a glory hole after I called up Quinn"? I don't think that's quite what Maya was looking for when she asked the MC to be honest with her and the MC has the good sense to keep that to himself, not just because of how Maya would react to that, but also because he doesn't know the full story of why Camila did that. He just knows that it happened after calling Quinn which causes him to be wary of her and he simply tells Maya to be wary as well which is really as much as he can do at this point.
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The storyline is self defeating because Quinn invites Maya to join the HOT's and yet we know that Maya doesn't have the personality to whore herself out.
Yet on the opposite side of that she is semi selling her soul/body to get into the sorority by doing things with the MC. The only saving grace of that side is that she actually likes the MC so those might be things she would willingly do anyway.
If anything, on the relationship path you learn more about exactly how vulnerable and alone Maya is. If you enter the 3 person relationship, there's a scene where Josy needs to meet with her dad who has brought her stuff from home. This scene can happen if you are friends with them (Josy will ask the MC to come). If they are in a relationship, MC agrees w/o you getting a prompt.
In the relationship, after Josy's dad leaves, the player is given an option. They can accompany Josy bringing her things back to the dorm room. This leads to a nice conversation and what is probably the best sex scene in the game between MC and Josy. Alternatively, MC can tell Josy that he's gonna go back into the party and find Maya (who did not come along becasue she didn't want to upset Josy's dad). If you choose that path, there's a scene with MC and Maya where she confides to him how sad she was because seeing Josy's dad be supportive and forgive her reminds her that her parents don't treat her that way, and that Josy, MC and Derek are all she has. MC and Maya then successfully have sex, only to have Josy walk in on them afterwards. That decision is tracked in the character bios and in the end-of-chapter summaries for Maya and Josy, so it's being tracked going forward.
That might save sage’s college career but not her role or sorority.
I don’t see Plotline going that way. It really doesn’t make any sense for someone using the services to want to go to sage. My guess is that events with bigger bads above Quinn will interrupt her attempts to bring maya into the fold. sage will find out eventually on her own as will maya and that your level of involvement will affect your relationship with them. We’ll likely get involved in saving hots from exposure and personally I hope I can help my girl Quinn survive it.
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DPC has said that they have all the major story beats planned out in terms of both what they are and when they will happen, but everything else is made up as they go. So they basically write each episode as they come whilst also incorporating some of the major story elements along the way in whatever episode they are planned to be in.
I think you're overlooking the extra layer of tension from Maya considering herself a lesbian. That she is considering doing this stuff with MC - who she clearly cares about and is the first guy she's ever been attracted to - despite, uh, being in direct conflict with her own sexual identity, is a significantly bigger choice than just 'mess around with a guy to get into the sorority'. The early dirty scenes with Maya make it pretty clear she has some significant mixed feelings about even being attracted to a guy in the first place.
I think what you see with Maya (and, indeed, with the MC and many other characters in this game) is an illustration of just how powerful peer pressure is in social situations with young people. Maya probably doesn't look at doing sex stuff to get into the HOTs as prostituting herself - she looks at it as being pressured to do what everyone else is (presumably) doing, which is why warning her that Quinn is up to no good might make her more likely to think no, everyone else ISNT doing this particular thing. And many people - men and women, especially young ones, and especially isolated and insecure young ones - will do things they DEFINITELY know they shouldn't do when receiving sufficient peer pressure. Maya's situation and personality are VERY similar to exactly the kind of person that is easy to influence in this manner: She doesn't have many friends, she feels isolated from her family, she thinks joining the sorority will save her. Quinn is going to manipulate her on exactly that basis with peer pressure, and many people - especially girls like Maya - will give in, go along, and do things they regret. For many people, that's basically the story of their social lives in late high school and early college, and that's especially true in the greek scene where hazing and peer pressure are particularly pervasive forces.
The only place here I'd disagree with you is motive. I'd agree Josy has a more openly sexual personality, but the game goes out of its way to make clear that her dad and her have made up and he's saved to pay her tuition. She doesnt NEED the money.
The game is set up to make us believe that Maya does need the money in order to stay in school. Maya has a motive that Josy doesn't and it makes all the difference.
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There are a million ways to have that conversation without telling Maya everything. I guess I would rather ruin my relationship with Maya by telling her everything than allow her to walk blindly into a situation where she could get hurt. I'm not that selfish to endanger someone over a desire to get my dick wet.
So minus the sex, i didn't miss out on anything really. Probably too early for any major changes in her personality.