VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[lemonfreak]

I thought that ''this hypothesis'' was referring to Wizard_Shiryuu's comment. Also saying that the groundwork has been laid is just false

It was a response to a specific part of Wizard's comment where they said that Maya would never be alone; I correctly pointed out that it is possible for Maya to end up alone based on actual events in the game. We know that Derek cheats in class and it is possible, albeit unlikely, that he could be kicked out of college. We also know that, based on the conversation with Derek in Chapter 5, the MC can still be interested in pursuing Josy or Maya separately after the threeway relationship has been rejected.

Those events could converge and force Maya to turn to Quinn. I don't think they will but your assertion that the groundwork hasn't been laid suggests you've been tab skipping through the dialogue.

 

[Warped77]

Because there's a million different things that the characters can go through that can elicit strong, painful feelings in the player before it even gets to something as extreme as watching someone go from a sweet, innocent, wallflower type character to a drug-adled whore, or to even include a tragic death. Bella's story, for example, might have elements in it that hit really close to the bone for some people and that still lines up with the warning about not "being in a good place" because it could cause an emotional reaction in the player.

Point is that there's a whole spectrum of "bad things" that can befall a character and it doesn't necessarily have to go all the way to the most extreme end of that spectrum, especially since DPC already did that once and to include another tragic, depressing story arc, even an optional one, is a one-trick-pony move.

I also don't buy into the whole 'Maya becomes a drug addict/prostitute' thing either... I just think it's not unlikely that either something very bad is going to happen to someone over the course of the story or we'll find out something very tragic about their past. Obviously, the most likely candidate for this is Bella, considering the locked room, her closed-off demeanor, and the MC's line in the library about 'if I knew then what I know now, I would have screamed for help' (paraphrasing, since I don't recall the exact line).

My wild-ass theory (which I'm sure I'll get mocked for) is that the locked room is a nursery. My crazy guess is that Bella and her husband suffered the loss of their child either by late-term miscarriage/stillbirth or infant death, the stress and shock of which broke their marriage (something I unfortunately have seen happen to two different couples personally). The husband left and Bella had a breakdown of sorts that has prevented her from accepting that her husband isn't coming back. This would be sufficiently 'dark' to warrant the disclaimer, but doesn't necessarily fit the library line completely (I never said it was perfect ). The obvious 'Bella killed her husband and his remains are in the room' thing is too obvious and the axe is likely a red herring.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

That's a lot of ''could''s in your sentence. Bro if you make assumptions they should have a solid ground to start with. Why should Maya and Josy break up all of a sudden? Even if you don't pursue their route, they are still a couple. There is no sign whatsoever that they are on the brink of breaking up. ''Josy could go back to MC''. There is an equal possibility that Maya would do the same, not just Josy.
Also even IF M&J broke up and even IF Josy goes back to the MC, why does that automatically mean that you, as the MC, would let Maya completly drop?

Also, there's no such thing as a "true" canon to this story, so all of these scenarios are possible routes, but none are the "true" version of events because there's no such thing in this game.

So whilst we can discuss the validity and believability of possible alternate routes, if you don't play these proposed "bad" routes and instead see only a good route, then it probably shouldn't matter what happens to the character(s) on these other routes. But, when you're invested in a character, you don't want to know anything bad happens to them on other routes and even when you can get that happy ending, it can sometimes ruin it knowing that other endings go really bad.

 

[Dashxp4k]

B&R was founded in 1921 by 2 Professors.

 

[lemonfreak]

B&R was founded in 1921 by 2 Professors.

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[Dashxp4k]

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the funny thing is how Castor and Sigmond get the money to build the college.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

I thought that ''this hypothesis'' was referring to Wizard_Shiryuu's comment. Also saying that the groundwork has been laid is just false

I wouldn't say false, it's a theory. But it won't happen and I know it. I just presented the most plausible sceneario in which it could happen.

It was a response to a specific part of Wizard's comment where they said that Maya would never be alone; I correctly pointed out that it is possible for Maya to end up alone based on actual events in the game. We know that Derek cheats in class and it is possible, albeit unlikely, that he could be kicked out of college. We also know that, based on the conversation with Derek in Chapter 5, the MC can still be interested in pursuing Josy or Maya separately after the threeway relationship has been rejected.

Those events could converge and force Maya to turn to Quinn. I don't think they will but your assertion that the groundwork hasn't been laid suggests illiteracy.

Yeah, it could happen, Derek would be the hardest but it could happen. We all know the story won't go there, though.

I've been predicting a separate M&J path since episode 3 and 4, it seems more likely with each passing episode.

Just a though (not originally mine, though). Does Derek cheat or is he truly a genius.

 

[lemonfreak]

I wouldn't say false, it's a theory. But it won't happen and I know it. I just presented the most plausible sceneario in which it could happen.

Yeah, it could happen, Derek would be the hardest but it could happen. We all know the story won't go there, though.

I've been predicting a separate M&J path since episode 3 and 4, it seems more likely with each passing episode.

Just a though (not originally mine, though). Does Derek cheat or is he truly a genius.

You know what, it's entirely possible that he is, in fact, a genius who has figured out that the entire educational system is bullshit and decided to use his superior intellect to break it

 

[PookieSage]

but your assertion that the groundwork hasn't been laid suggests illiteracy

Yeah maybe you are correct on that part. I just don‘t play through routes when the possibilities are that low. (Derek being suspended) But that’s just me. Not gonna bother with outcomes I don‘t think are likely to happen

 

[lemonfreak]

Yeah maybe you are correct on that part. I just don‘t play through routes when the possibilities are that low. (Derek being suspended) But that’s just me. Not gonna bother with outcomes I don‘t think are likely to happen

The Derek cheating aspect of the story (putting to one side Wizard's hypothesis that he really is a genius) is something that is largely unaffected by the MC; he's gonna cheat regardless, the only thing you affect is whether you join him in cheating which might also affect you (unlikely since that is a mini-game mechanic which can be turned off).

On a different note, sorry for the illiteracy comment, that was uncalled for and I have since edited my original comment

 

[Deleted member 2739658]

I also don't buy into the whole 'Maya becomes a drug addict/prostitute' thing either... I just think it's not unlikely that either something very bad is going to happen to someone over the course of the story or we'll find out something very tragic about their past. Obviously, the most likely candidate for this is Bella, considering the locked room, her closed-off demeanor, and the MC's line in the library about 'if I knew then what I know now, I would have screamed for help' (paraphrasing, since I don't recall the exact line).

My wild-ass theory (which I'm sure I'll get mocked for) is that the locked room is a nursery. My crazy guess is that Bella and her husband suffered the loss of their child either by late-term miscarriage/stillbirth or infant death, the stress and shock of which broke their marriage (something I unfortunately have seen happen to two different couples personally). The husband left and Bella had a breakdown of sorts that has prevented her from accepting that her husband isn't coming back. This would be sufficiently 'dark' to warrant the disclaimer, but doesn't necessarily fit the library line completely (I never said it was perfect ). The obvious 'Bella killed her husband and his remains are in the room' thing is too obvious and the axe is likely a red herring.

Actually that's not such a wild theory.

 

[PookieSage]

On a different note, sorry for the illiteracy comment, that was uncalled for and I have since edited my original comment

Yeah that bothered me a bit since I thought that my english was well developed and I would be able to read between lines and come up with different outcomes based on actions. But yeah, I don‘t realize these paths because the ground for it is not solid enough. The possibility is just too low for me personally

 

[Deleted member 2739658]

Bro I just hope you are wrong Can't see anything good coming from Quinn's manipulation

Don't worry about it too much, it's just a theory. I try to build theories based upon dialogue in the game, but ultimately there's nothing to prove any of those theories because it's not a reality, it's a product of DPC's imagination. I think something is going to happen and I try to second guess the author based on the clues he drops, but ultimately we can't get into his head.

 

[Lightaces]

Ah. I thought those patches were just for bugfixes. That's much more reassuring though, my external drive can continue living a healthy life

Well I still have 300gb from 1.2 teraflops I think but in the partition from porn game just have 30gb or less xD

Y'all know you can delete the old versions, right? Saves are in a different folder, and aren't effected. For your hard drive, patch verse full download shouldn't make a difference. Now, your internet bandwidth, that's a different story, drive space shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Warped77]

Don't worry about it too much, it's just a theory.

...a GAME THEORY!!!

(sorry. I just had to. I couldn't help myself)

 

[Cokebaths]

Yes, obviously we can delete old folders. I don't know about you though but this isn't the only game I have downloaded. I'm gonna worry about drive space at some point lol

 

[Lightaces]

Yeah, it isn't. We know it's not going to happen. The thing is... why tease with the possibility of something we know it's not happening? It takes all the tension from her storyline away, it's like a spoiler.

There's nothing to get. Maya has neither done nor will do anything to prostitute herself for Quinn's "restaurant".

THAT is what you don't get.

Who says it's not going to happen? Say her father finds out she's staying with Josy, blows up at her, including cutting her off financially, and Quinn witnesses it? Quinn would have to be a pretty lousy pimp to not try to leverage an emotionally desperate Maya at that point. And it could very well work - it certainly has worked on a lot of women in real life. It sets up just the kind of conflict you would expect from the guy who did AL.

 

[Lightaces]

Yes, obviously we can delete old folders. I don't know about you though but this isn't the only game I have downloaded. I'm gonna worry about drive space at some point lol

My point is, it doesn't matter if it is a full download or a update, your final folder is the same size.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

Who says it's not going to happen? Say her father finds out she's staying with Josy, blows up at her, including cutting her off financially, and Quinn witnesses it? Quinn would have to be a pretty lousy pimp to not try to leverage an emotionally desperate Maya at that point. And it could very well work - it certainly has worked on a lot of women in real life. It sets up just the kind of conflict you would expect from the guy who did AL.

No NTR in this game. Easy as that.

 

[Lightaces]

Why you so sure it won't happen? I find it perfectly possible plotwise that, at some point, Maya will decide to try it out because she sees that's her only way to stay in college. Even if that's not entirely true because there are always other options, she can be confused enough to be dragged in by Quinn and the other girls, or even angry enough for being left on her own (the final push given by the MC stealing Josie from her after showing her she likes boys too) to give it a go. In a normal situation she wouldn't take that step, but with a fucked-up state-of-mind and in a moment of need, everything is possible and her personality seems submissive enough to let herself go under such circumstances.
NTR claims? I don't think DPC would worry too much about that, more so if he does it near the end.

Precisely. Pimps prey on women in emotional distress. That's what they do. And an abusive parent is EXACTLY the kind of thing which can cause an otherwise smart, self-assured young woman to do something they wouldn't even consider otherwise.