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Hey everyone!

It’s time for a new development update, though this one’s a bit on the late side! Over the past two weeks, I managed to get some writing done and updated two of the remaining characters to work with the new shader.

At the start of writing Chapter 4, I had a rough outline of every planned scene. Sometimes I split scenes up afterward to keep the files from getting unnecessarily large, which makes it easier for me to find specific dialogue or events. Right now, I’ve planned 8 or 9 scenes, depending on how detailed I want to make the final one. Since I’m trying to keep it a bit shorter, I might wrap it up in 8.

The first 3 scenes, plus a big chunk of scene 6, are sitting at roughly 10k words so far. Scene 7 is a work in progress at 1.5k. I’m currently working on scene 4... Yeah, the order’s weird, I know. Don’t judge. Some content was already written during Chapter 3 development and is now being integrated into Ch4, which partly explains the shuffle.

Overall, I feel like I'm about 50% done with the planning and writing stage. I’ll probably tweak things a bit once I start rendering, as usual.

That’s all I’ve got for you today! Thanks so much for reading and for supporting me through this journey. :)

Wishing you all a great week - stay awesome!

Panda
 

SnowyS

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Hey there, I think I maybe potentially found a bug?

If you went to Jane the first night, then in the shower on the second day, the thoughts that can go through MC's head include an option if "ch1_jnh" is true, which is set based on the choice "JaneFirstNightHorny", which is not set anywhere. And ch1_jnh has further effects, so those don't work either.

There are a few menus in ch_01_16.rpy that could have been meant to add that choice?
 

DebatingPanda

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Hey there, I think I maybe potentially found a bug?

If you went to Jane the first night, then in the shower on the second day, the thoughts that can go through MC's head include an option if "ch1_jnh" is true, which is set based on the choice "JaneFirstNightHorny", which is not set anywhere. And ch1_jnh has further effects, so those don't work either.

There are a few menus in ch_01_16.rpy that could have been meant to add that choice?
Hey! That's quite certainly indeed a bug and a great find! I forgot to set the specific choice or it vanished during the chapter 1 text "remake". I can't tell for sure, but I'll sneakily add it back. It's supposed to be added at the final choice menu during the night on Jane's path, when you choose "I should not be doing this, but...".

Thank you very much! :giggle:(y)
 

BobGenghisKhan

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I got a crash right after Amber tries to talk to me in the hallway after the bathroom scene after deciding not to look through the hole in the stall.

This is on the second playthrough.

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 635, in execute_show_screen
    args, kwargs = a.evaluate()
  File "game/chapters/01/ch_01_23.rpy", line 310, in <module>
IndexError: list index out of range

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "script.rpyc", line 40, in script call
  File "chapters/01/ch_01_00.rpyc", line 36, in script call
  File "chapters/01/ch_01_23.rpyc", line 310, in script
  File "C:\games\Between-Humanity-0.3.2-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1987, in execute
    self.call("execute")
  File "C:\games\Between-Humanity-0.3.2-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1966, in call
    return renpy.statements.call(method, parsed, *args, **kwargs)
  File "C:\games\Between-Humanity-0.3.2-pc\renpy\statements.py", line 374, in call
    return method(parsed, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 635, in execute_show_screen
    args, kwargs = a.evaluate()
  File "C:\games\Between-Humanity-0.3.2-pc\renpy\parameter.py", line 503, in evaluate
    value = renpy.python.py_eval(v, locals=scope)
  File "C:\games\Between-Humanity-0.3.2-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1218, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "C:\games\Between-Humanity-0.3.2-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1211, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/chapters/01/ch_01_23.rpy", line 310, in <module>
  File "C:\games\Between-Humanity-0.3.2-pc\renpy\revertable.py", line 214, in __getitem__
    rv = list.__getitem__(self, index)
IndexError: list index out of range

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.3.7.25031702
Between Humanity 0.3.2
Thu Jun 19 11:22:30 2025
 

DebatingPanda

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I got a crash right after Amber tries to talk to me in the hallway after the bathroom scene after deciding not to look through the hole in the stall.

This is on the second playthrough.

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 635, in execute_show_screen
    args, kwargs = a.evaluate()
  File "game/chapters/01/ch_01_23.rpy", line 310, in <module>
IndexError: list index out of range

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "script.rpyc", line 40, in script call
  File "chapters/01/ch_01_00.rpyc", line 36, in script call
  File "chapters/01/ch_01_23.rpyc", line 310, in script
  File "C:\games\Between-Humanity-0.3.2-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1987, in execute
    self.call("execute")
  File "C:\games\Between-Humanity-0.3.2-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1966, in call
    return renpy.statements.call(method, parsed, *args, **kwargs)
  File "C:\games\Between-Humanity-0.3.2-pc\renpy\statements.py", line 374, in call
    return method(parsed, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 635, in execute_show_screen
    args, kwargs = a.evaluate()
  File "C:\games\Between-Humanity-0.3.2-pc\renpy\parameter.py", line 503, in evaluate
    value = renpy.python.py_eval(v, locals=scope)
  File "C:\games\Between-Humanity-0.3.2-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1218, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "C:\games\Between-Humanity-0.3.2-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1211, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/chapters/01/ch_01_23.rpy", line 310, in <module>
  File "C:\games\Between-Humanity-0.3.2-pc\renpy\revertable.py", line 214, in __getitem__
    rv = list.__getitem__(self, index)
IndexError: list index out of range

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.3.7.25031702
Between Humanity 0.3.2
Thu Jun 19 11:22:30 2025
Thanks for the report, fixed it already!
 

DevinHesi

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Hello there Pandalorians!

It's development log day!

Over the past two weeks, I've finished Scene 4 and I'm now halfway through Scene 5. Scenes 1 to 3 are done, and the rest is still the same as last time. Right now, I'm trying to figure out the best way to handle the branching in this version. As you might have guessed from the status report render, Jade might be present in this update, but you could have declined every interaction with her so far. I’ll probably take the easier route here, but we’ll see!

Regarding the current scope, I’m quite satisfied with Scene 4. I’ll need to put a good amount of effort into it once I start rendering, but I hope it'll be worth it!

Also, I sneakily released version 0.3.3 with some fixes based on your bug reports. For example, the non-toilet path for Amber threw an error log during her introduction, and there were some missing translations during Anya's mini-game in Chapter 3.

I also spent some time trying to figure out how to store save files on Android in a custom location. I found a script (it's huge and honestly way overkill, which is why I didn't want to use it), so I dug into it myself - read/write permissions and all that. Still not sure what the best location is on Android. I read that the documents folder is a good choice, but I haven't figured out how to store saves there and copy existing save files from the old location. I'll probably tackle this again before releasing 0.4. I thought it’d be a quick fix, but... yeah, sadly it wasn't. So, back to the writing board!

Btw, I'm now also on if you want to follow me there! :)

Alright, I'm off to bed now. Have a great day or night, and an even better week ahead. Stay hydrated!

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DebatingPanda

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Aye, thanks.
Was going through the entirety of code trying to find where it gets set lol
It was getting set during the changing room scene, but people got confused about her having submission points, so I changed it afterwards. Didn't remember that I used that value in a check somewhere, though. Already fixed and uploaded to itch.
 

mruggeri2

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Is Claire age in her profile a typo? I just got to the part where she was introduced and she says it's her first job as a teacher and she is barely older than her students - which are 17-19 - and even Amber comments that she looks way too young but in her profile it says she is 29? Is her profile age wrong and she is supposed to be 21-22? 1750881812617.png
 

icewolf81

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Is Claire age in her profile a typo? I just got to the part where she was introduced and she says it's her first job as a teacher and she is barely older than her students - which are 17-19 - and even Amber comments that she looks way too young but in her profile it says she is 29? Is her profile age wrong and she is supposed to be 21-22? View attachment 4980214
I think the age is not bad. 21/22 is to young for a teacher. Here it would be 19/20 after the school and to study about 5 to 7 years. Than they have to test in one or two schools(the mostly teach with a kind of chaperone) and after that they finally get a own class like Claire Tailor in the game. So i think 27-30 is a good age for a (young) teacher.
 

YogSothoth1982

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I think the age is not bad. 21/22 is to young for a teacher. Here it would be 19/20 after the school and to study about 5 to 7 years. Than they have to test in one or two schools(the mostly teach with a kind of chaperone) and after that they finally get a own class like Claire Tailor in the game. So i think 27-30 is a good age for a (young) teacher.
Is Claire age in her profile a typo? I just got to the part where she was introduced and she says it's her first job as a teacher and she is barely older than her students - which are 17-19 - and even Amber comments that she looks way too young but in her profile it says she is 29? Is her profile age wrong and she is supposed to be 21-22? View attachment 4980214
Here it would be about 3-4 years of university studies and then a year of the specific course to enter teaching. Between 4 and 5 years, so she would be between 22 and 23 years old.
 
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insanity10k

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I discovered this game around this time last year, and it's been one of my favorite visual novels since! It's the 3rd in my top 3! Between Humanity is a young game, but it shows a lot of promise! It's story is interesting, it's characters are memorable, and it's setting is nice! It's the kind of game I imagine I'll be glad I was around for since the beginning, once it's finished in a few years. It's an adventure I look forward to being along for the ride for!


That's all I can think to say right now, really. But, that's my review! I absolutely recommend this game! Looking forward to chapter 4! (y)
 

DebatingPanda

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Is Claire age in her profile a typo? I just got to the part where she was introduced and she says it's her first job as a teacher and she is barely older than her students - which are 17-19 - and even Amber comments that she looks way too young but in her profile it says she is 29? Is her profile age wrong and she is supposed to be 21-22? View attachment 4980214
Thanks for keeping such a close eye on the game’s details! This is not a typo, though. :)
 

makcim334

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игра жутко тормозит после смартфона.в начале бегло читается .потом появляется смартфон и начинается торможение после каждой строки . the game slows down terribly after the smartphone. at first it reads fluently. then the smartphone appears and the slowdown starts after each line.
 
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