VN Ren'Py Beyond Tomorrow [Ch.1] [Dream Games]

[yossa999]

Bro... This is going to sound unbelievable but it's true (you can find it in the public chat on his server) Dream got a few offers that someone will pay him €3,200 (he needs it to upgrade his PC) if he makes Olivia as LI. The same offers were coming because of Lily and his answer was NO. If so much money didn't change his opinion, a comment in this thread never will

What can I say, he loves his characters more than money. There are many developers who are just the opposite I have nothing but respect for Dream.

 

[Den1mo]

The game is good and if there is more progress and he doesn't change his stance, i will buy the game.

That's one of the reasons I support him. Most of the players scold the developers for making updates slowly. As for Dream, the people on his server forced him to go to sleep and take a break because he sat at the computer for 48 hours or more without sleeping He has a bad pc so in order to somehow balance the time he works more than he should

 

[Bnshy]

Android?

 

[stOrM!]

How desperate some people are. I feel with the dev here. The game is good and if there is more progress and he doesn't change his stance, i will buy the game. Man how i despise the incest folks by now.
I have nothing against it if it is the premise of the game, but it is ok and even better, if it isn't.
So many games out there to fullfill your, and i say it now, wierd kink, but no, you people have to go in every game thread and demand that you can fuck your mom, sis, aunt, dad and dog. Do you incest folks actually realise, how degenerated and unlikable you come across?

Couldn't agree more. I mean, we all might have different preferences (I prefer a good story and nice renders) way more than how many tags a game can contain or if sex scenes are animated or whatever. All that stuff comes in here more or less on a daily basis, games with a good story not, so I really appreciate this one. Congrats to the developer.

 

[FatGiant]

Android?

Who?

If you mean me, no, I'm organically human. The others? I dunno bro, these new AI's are awesome.

Peace

 

[Aristos]

How deranged must you be to send a dev life threats because you dislike his approach to his own game?
I'd never ever ever send life threats to Icstor, and God knows I hate that motherf...'s guts!

 

[Silreve]

An interesting and DEPRESSING story, but it could use some editing.

 

[zoislk]

was the laggy video issue ever solved in this game? Last time I played (looks like that version was from back in May), the lagging videos were so horrific that they would cause my game to crash so quickly that I couldn't get past the scene. It was, quite literally, unplayable.

 

[FatGiant]

was the laggy video issue ever solved in this game? Last time I played (looks like that version was from back in May), the lagging videos were so horrific that they would cause my game to crash so quickly that I couldn't get past the scene. It was, quite literally, unplayable.

When it comes to video lagging, the best way to start to look for a solution is by updating your codecs.
The second culprit is sometimes the drive you are playing the game from, either slow by a defect or bad sector, or some other reason.
There are more system problems that can cause it, like memory, graphics drivers, graphics cards, sometimes even a bad condenser on the MotherBoard is enough. You should also consider CPU load at the time.

One way to test that is to copy the files to another system and try again.

There's also the chance (remote but still possible) that you have played a corrupt download.

Without you telling us what you have tested already, I'm not sure that anyone can help you.

To be clear, I didn't experience ANY problem, not with the previous version nor with this one.

Peace

 

[Valdazz]

I have never seen such god awful lag since i've been on this site, I've run many VNs with the same if not better render quality as smooth as butter, but this. This one took the cake. Wtf did the dev do? it's literally unplayable

 

[zoislk]

When it comes to video lagging, the best way to start to look for a solution is by updating your codecs.
The second culprit is sometimes the drive you are playing the game from, either slow by a defect or bad sector, or some other reason.
There are more system problems that can cause it, like memory, graphics drivers, graphics cards, sometimes even a bad condenser on the MotherBoard is enough. You should also consider CPU load at the time.

One way to test that is to copy the files to another system and try again.

There's also the chance (remote but still possible) that you have played a corrupt download.

Without you telling us what you have tested already, I'm not sure that anyone can help you.

To be clear, I didn't experience ANY problem, not with the previous version nor with this one.

Peace

The issue, as I recall, was that the game - without any other program running - was maxing out CPU usage until the game crashed (which happened quickly since it seized up nearly immediately). And I wasn't the only one with the issue, as it was such a problem that others were reporting it and the dev himself was apparently having issues with it to some degree. You can see that in the changelog in the OP:

Videos:
The videos and lag are the main reasons why I updated Ren'py. Some people told me that it's caused by the old version of the engine, and after an update, it's going to be fixed. Well, I don't think so. Videos are still laggy as hell. I tried to create a new videos at 30 fps, but I don't think that lag was removed. At least for me, it's still a problem. So... Basically, just let me know if something has changed, at least on your side.

I'm just not sure if that solved the issue for most people that were having the problem or not, and if that was part of this update or if there was a Ch. 1 fix at some point that included it.

 

[FatGiant]

What I can tell you, is that I didn't experience any issue.

Just replayed from the start, this time due to internet issues I went with the compressed version, had NO PROBLEM.

 

[Calz]

You know it's bad when the Dev doesn't advertise how much renders are included in their updates, I'm guessing it's relatively small?

 

[FatGiant]

You know it's bad when the Dev doesn't advertise how much renders are included in their updates, I'm guessing it's relatively small?

Changelog:

* Chapter 2 :
over 900 images and 14 animations

I hope this helps you.

Peace

 

[djxplod]

Pretty sure it should say "Come on" instead of "Come one." Don't some of these devs run a basic spell check? Even Microsoft word can offer that for free.

Only few grammar issues here and there but overall it's well done.

 

[NebulousShooter]

I don't know why anyone would be against a NON-LIs sex scene. Neither Sasha, nor Olivia are romance-able by the MC, so, since they were/are in a relationship, what is the problem? Because they are lesbians? Because Olivia is the MC's sister (at least they both think so) and there is NO incest?

So, if the MC can't have them, no one else can? Sometimes I despair of this forum. People are okay with getting pleasure from hurting, humiliating, bounding, spanking someone. They are okay with cheating. They are okay with things like scat, vore and bestiality. They are ok with netorare. But, have two girls that you can't fuck anyway, have sex with each other, they react like the world is ending.

Get a grip (better use some form of lubrication if it goes for too long) and understand that that scene has NOTHING to do with the MC, but, apparently is important enough to the story that the Dev wants to show it.

If you see my sig, you know that I like incest games, that I like harem games, but I can also enjoy games where none of that happens, like this one. It's ok for you guys to not play it, it is not okay to tell the Dev what he should/shouldn't put in his game, but, go ahead... make yourself look like.... fuck it, not gonna say it...

Peace

I for one would prefer not being forced into any type of lewd scenes, MC, non-MC, photos, videos, flashback included, but to answer your question, incest fans see it as the game rubbing it in their faces with what they can't have
At least thats how I read it from their posts. There is always the debate on the time and resources spent on those scenes being used in more MC screen time, but judging how emotional the posts seem, I doubt they care about the technical aspect.

Spoiler: Slightly OT

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I haven't played ch2 yet, so this is what I understood from ch1 and early dev posts:

On the topic of Olivia and the 'no incest', unless Dream changed his mind, or I am completely shit at analyzing the story beats, Olivia is(was supposed to be) revealed not blood related to the MC and we probably find out about it by exploring the mother' story. IF the mother dies the MC and Oliva are not considered related by law anymore, society will still call it morally wrong, but it won't even be stepcest at that point. Its basically the initial premise of the MC and Jaye legal situation in Chasing Sunsets. So you see, both 'no incest' and Olivia will be a LI 'in the future' could still have been true, no lie by the dev there.

Seeing how it was later emphasized multiple time that she will never be a LI, I don't really know what to make of it until I get more updates out of the story, then I will know if he shifted story direction, or I totally misread that situation.

Sidenote: I think we need to eventually talk how the AVN community is the only internet group of people with, allegedly, straight males that dislike hot girls kissing eachouther. I am not talking about stealing LIs from the MC and cheating, since that is an entirely different genere and the lesbianism is just the plot device making it happen. I was kinda shocked when I first started coming here and realized that, knowing that lesbian sex is one of the most popular porn tags and I can guarantee you its not because lesbians have a porn addiction.

 

[yossa999]

I for one would prefer not being forced into any type of lewd scenes, MC, non-MC, photos, videos, flashback included, but to answer your question, incest fans see it as the game rubbing it in their faces with what they can't have
At least thats how I read it from their posts. There is always the debate on the time and resources spent on those scenes being used in more MC screen time, but judging how emotional the posts seem, I doubt they care about the technical aspect.

Spoiler: Slightly OT

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I haven't played ch2 yet, so this is what I understood from ch1 and early dev posts:

On the topic of Olivia and the 'no incest', unless Dream changed his mind, or I am completely shit at analyzing the story beats, Olivia is(was supposed to be) revealed not blood related to the MC and we probably find out about it by exploring the mother' story. IF the mother dies the MC and Oliva are not considered related by law anymore, society will still call it morally wrong, but it won't even be stepcest at that point. Its basically the initial premise of the MC and Jaye legal situation in Chasing Sunsets. So you see, both 'no incest' and Olivia will be a LI 'in the future' could still have been true, no lie by the dev there.

Seeing how it was later emphasized multiple time that she will never be a LI, I don't really know what to make of it until I get more updates out of the story, then I will know if he shifted story direction, or I totally misread that situation.

Sidenote: I think we need to eventually talk how the AVN community is the only internet group of people with, allegedly, straight males that dislike hot girls kissing eachouther. I am not talking about stealing LIs from the MC and cheating, since that is an entirely different genere and the lesbianism is just the plot device making it happen. I was kinda shocked when I first started coming here and realized that, knowing that lesbian sex is one of the most popular porn tags and I can guarantee you its not because lesbians have a porn addiction.

About that plot twist you mentioned I don't quite agree with you on that. There's definitely more to their family history, Mom and Susan are hiding something and they've been upfront about it since the MC left the hospital, but I still think she's the mother of both of them. What I'm not sure about is that Dylan's father is also Olivia's father. This could perfectly explain why he was so cold about the second pregnancy, why he was insisting on abortion, the change in his character and behavior towards the MC’s mother, which ended in beating her. Because it's strange that losing his job changed him so much. If the second child is such an unbearable burden for the temporarily unemployed, then the first is no less a burden. He could have just left them all, considering he's such a piece of shit.

 

[Ursus4321]

I see this all the time in threads. The truth is that an NTR-hater doesn't care what NTR really means. They could care less. It's just a word for when they don't get all the women as LIs. All of them.

For an NTR-hater (I include myself in this category), NTR means this: "I don't want to see any dicks in the game that aren't the MC's. None. Not as flashbacks, not as dreams, never. And I want all the LIs. No one else touches them."

I know this doesn't reflect real life, but if I wanted real life I'd turn off my laptop and walk outside.

But it's your game (obviously), so you're welcome to write it anyway you like, in all sincerity. Good luck with everything.

I know your message is from a while ago but I just entered this thread. You mention real life and that it is an excuse that many make to justify ntr in games. What they don't mention is that in real life a guy, upon discovering that his girlfriend/wife is cheating on him, often abandons her. Why then in the name of real life don't they put that option in their games? Okay, your wife can cheat on you but the mc should also be able to send her to hell. Sorry for the rant and it probably has nothing to do with this game, but I'm a little tired of real life as an excuse and as you say, if that's what I want, I'll close the computer and go outside.

 

[FatGiant]

I for one would prefer not being forced into any type of lewd scenes, MC, non-MC, photos, videos, flashback included, but to answer your question, incest fans see it as the game rubbing it in their faces with what they can't have
At least thats how I read it from their posts. There is always the debate on the time and resources spent on those scenes being used in more MC screen time, but judging how emotional the posts seem, I doubt they care about the technical aspect.

Spoiler: Slightly OT

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I haven't played ch2 yet, so this is what I understood from ch1 and early dev posts:

On the topic of Olivia and the 'no incest', unless Dream changed his mind, or I am completely shit at analyzing the story beats, Olivia is(was supposed to be) revealed not blood related to the MC and we probably find out about it by exploring the mother' story. IF the mother dies the MC and Oliva are not considered related by law anymore, society will still call it morally wrong, but it won't even be stepcest at that point. Its basically the initial premise of the MC and Jaye legal situation in Chasing Sunsets. So you see, both 'no incest' and Olivia will be a LI 'in the future' could still have been true, no lie by the dev there.

Seeing how it was later emphasized multiple time that she will never be a LI, I don't really know what to make of it until I get more updates out of the story, then I will know if he shifted story direction, or I totally misread that situation.

Sidenote: I think we need to eventually talk how the AVN community is the only internet group of people with, allegedly, straight males that dislike hot girls kissing eachouther. I am not talking about stealing LIs from the MC and cheating, since that is an entirely different genere and the lesbianism is just the plot device making it happen. I was kinda shocked when I first started coming here and realized that, knowing that lesbian sex is one of the most popular porn tags and I can guarantee you its not because lesbians have a porn addiction.

After you play CH2. come back and we'll talk.

I had some of the same thoughts before. CH2 answered a few of my points.

About that plot twist you mentioned I don't quite agree with you on that. There's definitely more to their family history, Mom and Susan are hiding something and they've been upfront about it since the MC left the hospital, but I still think she's the mother of both of them. What I'm not sure about is that Dylan's father is also Olivia's father. This could perfectly explain why he was so cold about the second pregnancy, why he was insisting on abortion, the change in his character and behavior towards the MC’s mother, which ended in beating her. Because it's strange that losing his job changed him so much. If the second child is such an unbearable burden for the temporarily unemployed, then the first is no less a burden. He could have just left them all, considering he's such a piece of shit.

I agree that there is something not really well explained. But I don't think it is that Lily cheated on her partner (They never ended up marrying). It just doesn't make sense with her personality and the rest of the story she tells her son.

What my imagination showed me as possible (not supported by any facts, so pure conjecture) is that the baby she was carrying ended up dying with the beating, and Olivia is either adopted (I don't like this option, she looks too much like Lily) or was the result of a posterior untold pregnancy that Susan knows about.

Either way, there's more to tell about that beating, more to tell about Olivia, more to tell about the siblings. What I no longer feel plausible anymore, is that Olivia isn't Lily's daughter. The strange man that payed for Olivia's tuition in the College, isn't Dylan's father, that one is named Brian. So, maybe there's something coming from there.


Peace

 

[xCalon]

Man, we all have our preferences and they are different, it's perfectly normal. I've never had a problem with content I don't like. If it can be skipped, I'll skip it. If it's mandatory, I shrug and delete the game. But stalking a dev for making a game you don't like, or even threatening them like in the post Kassandara shared, is beyond my comprehension.

I'm fine with Dream's decision, dev was clearly declare what want to avoid, like incest, rape, etc. Personally I avoid any AVN that humiliation, BDSM, futa, trans, rape, gay, bestiality, etc. tags, because I don't care those genres.

I have no problem with incest, or harem tag, but if a AVN not contain this, I won't go and cry in my pillow.
And just like You, if one of those genre can't skipped, or avoid, I drop the AVN, and delete it.