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I mean there isn't really that much NTR in this one... Okay there might be a little scene where a couple hobos spitroasted MC's girlfriend in front of him but it's really pretty short. You won't even notice it, so don't worry.
xXwankerXx
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The story's pretty good, dev's very talented too, there's no denying these two obvious things, but the truth is, said story is clearly not good enough to justify the time it takes the dev to release updates.
It's understandable why a guy in MC's case would have at least a few other more important priorities than to score with attractive women he interacts with, and this is why releasing a minimum of two substantial updates a year that mostly focus on the story until we get to the good part are needed, IMO.
This way, both story-focused game fans and 'scientists' looking for research material can get the exact type of content they're looking for after a reasonable amount of time and can throw some money the dev's way in return.
Seeing how this doesn't happen, it only increases my concerns about the game eventually getting slapped with the dreaded yellow tag, instead the sweet blue one, while we're waiting on more content to be released.
Damn... and here I was hoping we'd finally get some type of action with her, not be treated like a glorified 6ft-something tatted emotional tampon for bratty girls with mommy and daddy issues.Olivia - you have to deal with her constant self-focused drama bs and cant fuck her - the worst of both worlds
Sounds like the exact type of relationship dynamic you'd expect to hear from a guy that's perma friendzoned by his crush, and instead of moving on with his life and focusing on making something for himself in life, the sucker keeps being her speed dial simp hoping she'd eventually notice him... preferably before she becomes a fat single mom with at least two kids from different guys and an army of cats calling all men shit cuz of her 'extravagant' tastes in them, but even after this substantial change in her life, she'd probably be still good enough for him lol.
Meh, at least in our case, the MC's brotherzoned AND still has a gorgeous girl that gives a shit about him.... could've been worse, tbh. Olivia could've been dicked down left and right by all kinds of creepy ugly idiots for reasons, while the MC could only fap and watch or pretend it doesn't happen.
If dangling a piece of delicious bbq meat in front of a hungry dog meme was a person, Olivia would be that one... doesn't matter if she's a fictional character or not. MC's mom would be the second, before the cancer, I mean, and I have my reasons to suspect the two drop-dead gorgeous milfs are off the table too, just for the lolz.
Dev would be savagely trolling us, if this turns out to be true, more so since both of them seemed to want a taste of MC's self-grown sausage.
yossa999
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No, it was stated right there in the first opening scene. Sam's parents never had time for her and were often "working" away from home, so Sam was a frequent guest in the Lillian's house (Sam's mother was a friend of sorts of Lillian). MC and Marcus were talking about it in the first scene. And besides, she was Olivia's best friend, so it's not surprising that, having known each other since childhood, Sam, being closer than some cousins, practically lives in their house. Although that's not entirely true.
I like that Sam isn't MC's girlfriend from the start anymore. It's not that I'm put off by a "forced girlfriends" or that I don't like her. It's just that in the old version, she was too perfect. Kind, empathic, sexy, caring for MC, constantly trying to help MC and Olivia find common ground. And she even sleeps with MC whenever he wants. Personally, I just couldn't see a situation in which MC would decide to dump her out of the blue. Then it would seem like he was either using her for his pleasure and then dumping her when a prettier ass came along. Or the plot would have to explain that their relationship isn't as perfect as it was portrayed. Basically, all the other LIs would have started the game with a major penalty because of Sam and MC's perfect relationship. That's not the case now and my MC won't feel like shit flirting with the milf Goddess Casey.
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Went through the thread and now I am even more confused about this one than before.
Let's say I would not like a whinny mc (or someone who is kinda person other walk all over), nor I am into NTR (except netori), and having a harem route is good.
Considering all that, is this one worth playing?
Let's say I would not like a whinny mc (or someone who is kinda person other walk all over), nor I am into NTR (except netori), and having a harem route is good.
Considering all that, is this one worth playing?
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But now they made the Sam path the most afterthought feeling. I skipped to new update jsut to see, and it just doesn't feel great. So while she was maybe too perfect before and people don't want forced GFs, it was way better than what the dev did to her now.I like that Sam isn't MC's girlfriend from the start anymore. It's not that I'm put off by a "forced girlfriends" or that I don't like her. It's just that in the old version, she was too perfect. Kind, empathic, sexy, caring for MC, constantly trying to help MC and Olivia find common ground. And she even sleeps with MC whenever he wants. Personally, I just couldn't see a situation in which MC would decide to dump her out of the blue. Then it would seem like he was either using her for his pleasure and then dumping her when a prettier ass came along. Or the plot would have to explain that their relationship isn't as perfect as it was portrayed. Basically, all the other LIs would have started the game with a major penalty because of Sam and MC's perfect relationship. That's not the case now and my MC won't feel like shit flirting with the milf Goddess Casey.
I really wish the dev didn't just butcher and ruin her romance completely. Like what I saw was such a letdown, didn't feel special or important or anything. So I do wish we could go back to that perfect GF before rework, cause now the dev basically showed he doesn't care or value Sam in my opinion with how he handled her romance.
I am just so let down right now.
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Ricthequick
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Oh no I read that, and it still doesn't sound credible, at least not for the present.
No issue at all with all flashbacks when they were kids, it's normal for kids with busy parents to spend time at someone else's place (being it grandparents, uncle/aunt, friend, etc...).
What's also normal is for young adults to be able to look after themselves.
Sam's clearly someone who knows how to take care of herself, she has bunch of her stuff still at her mom's place, she's what 20+? Why is she living at her best friend mom's place?
It might just be me of course, but while it happens to have 2 kids over 20 who both still live at your (mom's) place, to also have their friend doing the same is really not.
Ricthequick
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The MC isn't whiny, for sure not the way you are referring to, quite the contrary he falls more into the stereotype of "every woman who's not lesbian and not blood related" thirsts for him.
I don't see any real NTR happening in this one, of course if one considers NTR any sort of interaction that doesn't include the MC, that's another story, in example there's no incest here, so the sister (who's also lesbian) will probably have some action of her own, but that's not NTR.
I think this isn't intended to be an harem game, MC can choose which LI to pick, he can also have side flicks (e.g. the various MILFs), but I doubt the end point can be MC+every single LI, just wouldn;t make any sense considering the tone the AVN is going for.
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I feel like I've played 5 different iterations of this same game throuought the years and the game is barely moving forward...
Don't get why they excluded incest but it's annoying with these games when there 3 chapters in and no sex scenes like that's why we play these along with the story how is there not any sex scenes yet
Kukipett
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Boring people doing boring things in their boring life. They all look so serious and depressed Playing this was a chore, hopefully my life is not boring so i will not jump through the window after reading this.
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MC: 'ᴵ'ᵐ ˢᶦᶜᵏ ᵒᶠ ᵐʸ ᵐᵒᵐ'ˢ ᶜᵃⁿᶜᵉʳᵎ ᴵ'ᵐ ᵍᵒⁿⁿᵃ ᶠᵘᶜᵏ ʰᵉʳ ᶦⁿ ᵗʰᵉ ᵃˢˢ ᵗᵒ ᶜᵘʳᵉ ʰᵉʳᵎ ᴬⁿᵈ ᴵ'ᵐ ᵍᵒⁿⁿᵃ ˢᵗʳᵃᶦᵍʰᵗʷᵃˢʰ ᵐʸ ˡᵉˢᵇᶦᵃⁿ ˢᶦˢ ᵇʸ ᶜᵘᵐᵐᶦⁿᵍ ᶦⁿˢᶦᵈᵉ ʰᵉʳ; ᵗʰᵃᵗ'ˢ ᵍᵒⁿⁿᵃ ʷᵒʳᵏ, ᶠᵒʳ ˢᵘʳᵉᵎ'
Would that be more right up your alley?
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I think it means like a sudden pregnancy or during the game.Why does it say pregnancy is planned and then you say you avoid it
Ricthequick
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Considering incest is not supposed to be part of this AVN I don't think that would be better, quite the contrary.
But maybe actually showing us (players) Olivia and Sasha having sex during that flashback?
Oh no that would have probably scared the "chads" and anti-NTR brigade away?
Also I understand showing something that's not drama/sex is useful to build a more credible milieu, but did we really need 2 hauling scenes (moving crates and loading veggies) in a single update?
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The MC male lead is fine. He's the only one trying to hold everything together. His sister is the problematic one. She is the female lead too so playing the game can be a frustrating experience. Overall i'm enjoying the narrative but the sister, goddamn, she is the root cause of all of her problems. Granted, it makes sense in a realism setting, everyone has different coping mechanics and they can be healthy or unhealthy.
Pretty sure there won't be any NTR relative to the male lead. Not sure if dev will have lewd scenes for non-LIs & their partners though, like the sister who is a lesbian.
And probably won't be a harem. Seems dev is going for a real life setting & narrative with focus on drama & soap opera elements. So likely solo routes but not sure if there'll be throuples and such or similar combinations like having a mistress/affairs/cheating etc.
The biggest disappointment is that the older women and milfs are not romanceable, maybe at best they might be distractions. Their models are gorgeous but that's not the main point. They have little screentime but dev has set up fitting backstories & personalities for them. They definitely have LI potential especially in a story like this where the MC needs a helping hand or guidance and also an outside perspective from actual mature adults. Imo, the game is saturated with young adult/adolescent angst and drama. They're idiots. Having the milfs with years of life experience on their belt as a Love Interest option will be a good counterbalance and offer more stability for the MC.
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yossa999
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It's not probably but actually. In the old version, there was an explicit sex scene between Liv and Sasha.
The marks of the butthurt of the mentioned groups can probably even be found in the thread, if the mods haven't cleaned it all up.