VN Ren'Py Beyond Tomorrow [Ch.3 Part 1] [Dream Games]

[Dessolos]

No offense to you, my dude, but I don't buy the whole 'depression' thing the dev's trying so hard to sell us. Olivia's simply a spoiled, dumb, selfish bitch, the immature cunt who bluntly tells her mom, a caring, loving, supportive, attentive and dedicated single mother who'd jump in front of a damn bullet train or a tank and take a bullet for her kids, that she hates her just cuz her dear daddy, who never showed he gave a single flying fuck about her, was never around.

I know there's a general consensus among most men with a functional dick in their pants about single moms who used to be 'empowered' hoes in their youth and are crying their eyes out in the present that men don't want to deal with them and their bullshit after they clapped their cheeks, but in our case, the situation is drastically different. Lillian is a damn superheroine. This woman deserves a golden crown on her head, Superman's cape and a golden throne to sit on, cuz that's how awesome she was and still is as a mother. I'd argue that there's more to the story she told the MC about his stupid, abusive dad doing a complete 180 like that, she's only human, we all make mistakes, BUT Olivia's at least 18 yo in the story and knows or should know perfectly well what a great woman and mother Lillian is and should've thought at least twice about the words that came out of her dumb mouth instead of falling into a supposed "depression" after the MC called her out for what she did, a pretty convenient excuse for an immature, dumb brat who can't take responsibility for her own actions.

A lot of ppl do and say stupid things when being angry they later come to regret, but you don't talk to your parents as disrespectfully as you'd talk to one of your friends or a random person on the street, especially not to a mom like Lillian, who always had both her and her brother's best interests in mind and worked her ass off all her life for their well-being and future. The fact that she refuses to apologize to her under the excuse that she's too 'depressed' and can't face her mom makes it worse, cuz Lillian's time is limited, she dies in the 2nd Ch released prior to the Reworked Ch1, IIRC, and I don't think she'd mind her daughter talking things out with her, apologizing for the harsh words she told her and spending as much mother-daughter quality time together as they can.

Well I was just going off my poor memory of this game. Clearly you remember more than me so I tend to believe you. I honestly only recall dark tones to the renders trying to sell her being depressed especially the bathtub scene. Everything else is a blurr but do recall that was what the dev was going for haha. Not sure how it is in the rework gonna be a minute before I play it

 

[MiltonPowers]

Well I was just going off my poor memory of this game. Clearly you remember more than me so I tend to believe you. I honestly only recall dark tones to the renders trying to sell her being depressed especially the bathtub scene. Everything else is a blurr but do recall that was what the dev was going for haha. Not sure how it is in the rework gonna be a minute before I play it

I haven't got around to the rework yet either, but based on the last couple of pages, I might need to move it up the backlog list, so I can understand what people are talking about. Seems to be a lot of differences.

 

[Den1mo]

Guess the dev doesn't know an evil i-patch is a pretty good cheat to bypass Patreon's shitty guidelines

since WiAB got banned even without any incest sex scene that wasn't even supposed to be incest and got banned I wouldn't underestimate it. patreon has been making it clear for last few months that they will not tolerate it. and the more you avoid it the worse it is for you. if Ocean didn't lie he didn't even get a chance to defend himself. that was his public statement and besides him there were many more devs with same case

I have supported this game since beginning and I want to see it finished. it's not like case with SG where you can't see the end. I don't want to find out one day that Dream is banned just because a few idiots cry that some 3D character is not li I think everyone who got banned thought in a similar way. naively believed that he had more brain than patreon

 

[xXwankerXx]

if i remember correctly, in older version, game hints that she is not his sister

She's definitely his sister, even if it turns out they're just half-siblings like I suspect them to be... they have the same mother, after all.

this hate what you write here is pretty shit

Chillax dude, ppl are just voicing a few on-topic complaints. Nobody's hating here on the dev or trying to insult him, where did you get that from ??

it seems that the site’s stuff are of the opinion that the concept of an adult game is much broader than just 3d porn videos. For some reason, they even introduced tags like "No sexual content." So you should address these questions to them, I can only tell you what I consider to be adult games. Afterwards. If you want.

There's a big difference between being a loyal fan and a simple fanboy. Don't be the second, bro'. We all appreciate the dev's hard work and dedication he put into this project, we wouldn't be wasting our time posting in this thread if we didn't, but as much as I like giving hard-working devs like him the benefit of the doubt, in this case, Dream should've continued the story by releasing Ch3 instead of reworking Ch1, more so since he himself admitted he has a weak PC with an RTX 3060 that isn't exactly a racehorse when it comes to rendering and editing his work.

I personally enjoyed the story in this Ch and am one of the bois who doesn't mind waiting even a year for one or two sex scenes, as long as they're worth the wait, and to be honest, most of the time, they ain't, but in our case, ppl are only upset they didn't get any new content and story progress cuz of this remake nobody asked for, a valid reason with which I agree.

Porn games should always have good stories, build up, character development and all that, BUT at the end of the day, they are just porn games... you can't claim your game is a porn game if there's no porn in it. I repeat, I don't mind waiting for the good stuff, but the problem here isn't the sex scenes or the lack of incest, it's the fact that the next update should've been Ch4, not Ch2 reworked.

You know the dev did a damn good job with their story when you see so many fans complain about the lack of progress and other stuff they wanted to see in it, cuz even if you don't want to admit this, it's understandable why they're so disappointed. There's no need trying to gaslight ppl into agreeing with you and accepting this weird decision of his, cuz everybody looked forward to getting story progress and progress with the LIs instead of this 1 step forward, two steps back type of progress. Feel free to disagree with me, this won't change the fact that this is the truth.

 

[Den1mo]

Chillax dude, ppl are just voicing a few on-topic complaints. Nobody's hating here on the dev or trying to insult him, where did you get that from ??

I was talking about hate towards update

 

[FatGiant]

you can't claim your game is a porn game if there's no porn in it

From what I see, you are the one claiming it is a porn game.

Don't worry, that is a known tactic, it even has a name, it's called : Strawman Argument (look it up).

What this is is a Adult Visual Novel. You know, a story told with images, with themes for Adults.

You say no one asked for a Remake? And since when does it need to be asked for? The person dedicating their time, their effort, their money, into this, decided it was needed. Why? It's completely irrelevant. They wanted to do it, and they did it. End of discussion.

You may or may not like it. That's the end of your "rights". Your, let's call it what it truly is, badgering of the Dev, is way out of bounds.

You expressed your views. Thanks. Now stop. Be what this says on the tin, an Adult.

Peace

 

[Requah]

Please stop making the non LI characters so damn attractive if you know that the mc has no chance of romancing them because it just gives false hope and makes us not appreciate the others.

 

[Funky_A]

This game is just awesome... I just played and the story is top tier

 

[Shelscott50]

You will play many scenes from Olivia's point of view, you will make many decisions, you will make important choices from her point of view, such as whether to get back together with her ex-girlfriend or whether to find a new partner.

It's important to have this tag here because a lot of people avoid this tag. Because such tags are classified as non-cuck cuck tags.
Some people don't enjoy watching sex scenes of people other than male MCs, especially people close to the MC.
Even if the scenes could have been avoided, it is seen as a waste of time and resources.
No one wants to buy a product that they cannot use 100%.
Sometimes the reason is simpler: I'm a man, games with a female point of view don't interest me.

I know only one successful game with male mc and female mc content and it's a disgusting fendom game. (Karlsson's Gambit)

And you shouldn't rely too much on the list of tags that developers publish. (Seducing the Devil - Even years later he still says that his game doesn't have ntr, even though his game clearly contains ntr content... If you download and play the game you will understand what I mean)

And I am Only guessing here, But ANY Games where You Cannot Control the MC's action; You Do not like.
- God, I MISS the facepalm emo.
(BTW, Karlsson's Gambit Is Awesome game.)

 

[Shelscott50]

In terms of character appearance.

Two heroines, the old version is better.
Nurse and "Wheelchair Double", the new version is better.

Well after (and still playing Chapter 1- remake), I have decided that I was very much mistaken, or at least 1/2.
The Older/original version Is 'Darker' but Good.
The Remake is Good as well, and goes further. (Didn't really care for the split choice after 'visiting hrs ended)
- I liked going home with Kimmi & meeting her roommate, then stopping of at the beach and meeting wheelchair girl & snob.

Maybe a BETTER version would be to Combine the 2 into One, making a Better Chapter version.
- They both have there good points and not so good pts.

 

[FunFuntomes]

The whole non LI thing reminds me of another game I played with the mom was of course the hottest in the game, but she was not a LI, but the sister were..

Lineage or Legacy.... such a disappointment.

 

[TKdropemoff]

Lineage or Legacy.... such a disappointment.

i quoted the wrong text, but yes you are right..

a true disappointment indeed.

not only that the sister got a shitty attitude, while the mom is sweet asf..

 

[Beavis & Butthead]

Not gonna lie, I hate Olivia's stupid, immature and selfish "me me me... it's always me who counts, fuck the others" shitty attitude, but I'd definitely smash. Guess the dev doesn't know an evil i-patch is a pretty good cheat to bypass Patreon's shitty guidelines.

Exactly. Even then at this point if it's on Patreon that's an automatic "not worth supporting anyway" as far as my wallet is concerned, since it's not only supporting censorship but devs with no spine where money is the priority over their own vision, so might as well be letting Patreon write it where as usual it's generally the same boring shit (with half of those college settings, probably trying to be a another Being a DIK clone and thinking they'll get rich too), different Daz models. There's other less restrictive platforms. People, both devs and supporters, should use those or not bother at all. If an AVN is good with most people getting what they want (ie lolis, incest, no NTR, harems, etc) Subscribetar can easily earn $100k a year (or even $300k a year in the case of a few) after maybe a year or 2 or so (no, no dev will make that after 2 updates, it takes time), that should be comfortable enough for anyone, if not then build credit, get a loan, and start a business, and put thousands of hours into that, it's probably far more lucrative, at least far better odds of being so.

 

[yossa999]

I like how Kimi has changed. Not only her looks, the old model was not bad at all, but her new look is on a new level.

But I think she now fits better into the plot, it goes more smoothly and naturally. Previously, she somehow popped up next to the MC for no apparent reason, and they took a stroll. It was clear that she knew the MC, but their backstory was vague, why they knew each other well (it felt like more than just an aquintance in the hospital), what kind of relationship they had. Now it is clear that they have known each other for a long time, since school (MC, Sam, Olivia, Kimi). Just dropping by to her place, chatting and drinking beer is a natural thing for the MC.

 

[OGSage]

man its been awhile since ive been this excited for a game keep it up

 

[NyxVortex]

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[burbero]

I'm not saying that the reworking turned out badly, but was it really needed? It was quite good in the original version, even a few things that were good are no longer there, like the girlfriend for example. Unlike a lot of games we started the story with the internal girlfriend and it felt quite natural because she was already old good friends and they basically live in the same house. If she didn't stop being a potential love interest, it was illogical. I could have chosen someone else later on if I liked someone else.

Martin: Why aren't you still with her? You're something special, man.
Me: Go ask that wooden ass developer!

 

[Darkdevil66]

While the models are mostly attractive, there's a real issue with the MC. I get that he's supposed to be depressed but he has the same lifeless eyes in 90 % of the renders.



He feels like a Mass effect Andromeda character.

 

[Den1mo]

Exactly. Even then at this point if it's on Patreon that's an automatic "not worth supporting anyway" as far as my wallet is concerned, since it's not only supporting censorship but devs with no spine where money is the priority over their own vision, so might as well be letting Patreon write it where as usual it's generally the same boring shit (with half of those college settings, probably trying to be a another Being a DIK clone and thinking they'll get rich too), different Daz models. There's other less restrictive platforms. People, both devs and supporters, should use those or not bother at all. If an AVN is good with most people getting what they want (ie lolis, incest, no NTR, harems, etc) Subscribetar can easily earn $100k a year (or even $300k a year in the case of a few) after maybe a year or 2 or so (no, no dev will make that after 2 updates, it takes time), that should be comfortable enough for anyone, if not then build credit, get a loan, and start a business, and put thousands of hours into that, it's probably far more lucrative, at least far better odds of being so.

it amazes me how everyone here knows the recipe for the best game and how to make the most money but none of you do. I don't know about you but if I knew how to make $300k a year sitting at pc I wouldn't hesitate for a second

this thread is becoming more shit than SG. I don't know where these mental athletes are still coming from but that would be enough. let him do what he wants to do. no one asked you

 

[MartinKrpan]

MC annoys the hell out of me, good lords do I hope there will be enough choices to make him sad and miserable at every opportunity possible.
Sticking around just in hopes of that...

Whenever I see him with that stupid tattoo of a rose on his throat, it tickles me the wrong way. I just view him as emotional pussy. I have absolutely no problem with female models but him. God damn... All that work and rework and the dev couldn't make a normal MC.