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groq

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About next update, for those interested, from Discord (my highlights):

Q: ... — 01/30/2023 6:20 AM
I just saw the news. What does this mean as far as how long it will take
A: Aleksey9001/30/2023 6:21 AM
Another week or two.

Q: ... — 01/30/2023 7:00 AM
what days of the game are gonna be in this update
A: Aleksey9001/30/2023 7:45 AM
The 1st update is the first game day. It is necessary to familiarize players with all the changes. If all is well, you can move on.

......

Q: ... — Yesterday at 3:24 PM
When will new update come?
A: Aleksey90Yesterday at 3:27 PM (02/08/2023)
Hopefully in about 12-14 days.
Comment: ... — Yesterday at 5:52 PM
So 2 months later according to previous patterns' ( :LOL: :LOL: )


Q: ... — Yesterday at 6:35 PM
Aleksey90 how much content will be in the next update?… is it just a small amount due to the rebuild or is it right up to where we were in the previous version
A: Aleksey90Yesterday at 6:38 PM (02/08/2023)
For now, it's a small amount to familiarize yourself with the changes. If no serious disputes arise, we will move on.

So, don't keep your expectations too high...
 
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firevoodoo

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About next update, for those interested, from Discord (my highlights):

Q: ... — 01/30/2023 6:20 AM
I just saw the news. What does this mean as far as how long it will take
A: Aleksey9001/30/2023 6:21 AM
Another week or two.

Q: ... — 01/30/2023 7:00 AM
what days of the game are gonna be in this update
A: Aleksey9001/30/2023 7:45 AM
The 1st update is the first game day. It is necessary to familiarize players with all the changes. If all is well, you can move on.

......

Q: ... — Yesterday at 3:24 PM
When will new update come?
A: Aleksey90Yesterday at 3:27 PM (02/08/2023)
Hopefully in about 12-14 days.
Comment: ... — Yesterday at 5:52 PM
So 2 months later according to previous patterns' ( :LOL: :LOL: )


Q: ... — Yesterday at 6:35 PM
Aleksey90 how much content will be in the next update?… is it just a small amount due to the rebuild or is it right up to where we were in the previous version
A: Aleksey90Yesterday at 6:38 PM (02/08/2023)
For now, it's a small amount to familiarize yourself with the changes. If no serious disputes arise, we will move on.

So, don't keep your expectations too high...
First gameplay day… Damn...

Fine, I’ll take it.

Bring it on!
 
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thinman78

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my first post...

Meanwhile I believe that Aleksey does nothing for a month after an update - the money comes in. After one month he starts half-heartedly to think about how to continue. If he has no idea, he pushes it to the side. But at some point he has to deliver, so he does a little bit for each of the three current paths.

So then we have an update 0.09.2, which took 125 days and contains maybe 5-10 minutes of content (depending on how often you skip the time)

I went through the thread, following are the times for each update:

0.01 - 03.01.20
0.02 - 23.01.20 (20 days)
0.03 - 14.03.20 (51 days)
0.04 - 01.06.20 (79 days)
0.04.5 - 22.08.20 (82 days) - minor update
0.05 - 24.09.20 (33 days)
0.06 - 11.02.21 (140 days)
0.06.5 - 17.05.21 (95 days) - minor update
0.06.6 - 20.07.21 (64 days)
0.07.1 - 08.10.21 (80 days)
0.07.2 - 28.12.21 (81 days) - minor update
0.08 - 05.03.22 (67 days)
0.09.1 - 09.07.22 (126 days)
0.09.2 - 11.11.22 (125 days) - minor update
??? - today (90 days)

But this seems to be normal, as you can see in other threads. Only with Patreon Aleksey should earn almost the Russian average salary (today 465 Patreons with at least 1€ contribution and 632€ average salary in 2019). And as long as there are payers, why should he change anything?

And exactly because of such "developers" I would never invest even one euro at Patreon and also can't understand why others pay something there.

(about the designation "minor updates" you can argue perhaps)
 

groq

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my first post...

Meanwhile I believe that Aleksey does nothing for a month after an update - the money comes in. After one month he starts half-heartedly to think about how to continue. If he has no idea, he pushes it to the side. But at some point he has to deliver, so he does a little bit for each of the three current paths.

So then we have an update 0.09.2, which took 125 days and contains maybe 5-10 minutes of content (depending on how often you skip the time)

I went through the thread, following are the times for each update:

0.01 - 03.01.20
0.02 - 23.01.20 (20 days)
0.03 - 14.03.20 (51 days)
0.04 - 01.06.20 (79 days)
0.04.5 - 22.08.20 (82 days) - minor update
0.05 - 24.09.20 (33 days)
0.06 - 11.02.21 (140 days)
0.06.5 - 17.05.21 (95 days) - minor update
0.06.6 - 20.07.21 (64 days)
0.07.1 - 08.10.21 (80 days)
0.07.2 - 28.12.21 (81 days) - minor update
0.08 - 05.03.22 (67 days)
0.09.1 - 09.07.22 (126 days)
0.09.2 - 11.11.22 (125 days) - minor update
??? - today (90 days)

But this seems to be normal, as you can see in other threads. Only with Patreon Aleksey should earn almost the Russian average salary (today 465 Patreons with at least 1€ contribution and 632€ average salary in 2019). And as long as there are payers, why should he change anything?

And exactly because of such "developers" I would never invest even one euro at Patreon and also can't understand why others pay something there.

(about the designation "minor updates" you can argue perhaps)
You forgot his Boosty account with 277 subscribers and $8840!!
 

Carla_BrownBB

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I've said it before. He's a great artist but a terrible game developer. As much as he tried to create his own vision of this game, it's based on an unoriginal and copied premise. Yet he has remade so many pieces over time. He lacked clear foresight when he started this project.
I hope he doesn't revisit it again, but I doubt it. His updates barely even have animations, so it's beggars belief how he is averaging 3 month update windows now.
 

Nemo56

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I've said it before. He's a great artist but a terrible game developer. As much as he tried to create his own vision of this game, it's based on an unoriginal and copied premise. Yet he has remade so many pieces over time. He lacked clear foresight when he started this project.
I hope he doesn't revisit it again, but I doubt it. His updates barely even have animations, so it's beggars belief how he is averaging 3 month update windows now.
Lacking clear foresight ... can't argue there (starting with the game originally being planned as a sequel), but he shares that with most Patreon devs.
And that's why I don't do Patreon. One who has a project in mind and plans ahead how much work it is, how long it will take and how much money he needs, can do a kickstarter campaign. Doing piece by piece and see where it goes (and listening to the constant "I need content of xy type" whining, changing the project constantly), that I don't support. Of course not all kickstarter projects succeed as well, but it's still better.

Animations would only work for naked bodies anyway, not with the complex clothing system he implemented.
 

BigRedRadio

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It's an issue with so many of these games being solo projects and the Devs having day jobs and hopefully social lives.

You spend time on the writing you're not making the art, you spend time on the art your not fixing the bugs, youre fixing the bugs everyone hates the update as you didn't progress the story and you've lived with the characters in your head for way longer than you intended (Belle does a really good wrap up to long live the princess explaining some of this stuff), Serio got sent to South Africa with a container ship from work at one point I think he got 1 update in when he got back and then Patreon killed his account (harsh given Selina had no incest, and I don't think he'd even got to penetrative sex with any main characters) so it's a bigger surprise anything gets completed than it is they get abandoned.

He lacked clear foresight when he started this project. If you find me a Dev that fully understood what they where getting into especially on the first game they made, pump them for stock tips as that sort of insight is rare, but I take your point and agree the Dev probably bit of more than he could chew or at least chew quickly

I understand the frustration but it's BB did you really expect it to get finished? I live in hope we will eventually see something and I'd rather it was slow and right than fast and wrong as that means another rework of day 1 after the next rework of day 1, I'd rather not have day 1 of BB being my version of groundhog day (give me a day after Kira arives and we can talk about it)
 
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BigRedRadio

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Lacking clear foresight ... can't argue there (starting with the game originally being planned as a sequel), but he shares that with most Patreon devs.
And that's why I don't do Patreon. One who has a project in mind and plans ahead how much work it is, how long it will take and how much money he needs, can do a kickstarter campaign. Doing piece by piece and see where it goes (and listening to the constant "I need content of xy type" whining, changing the project constantly), that I don't support. Of course not all kickstarter projects succeed as well, but it's still better.

Animations would only work for naked bodies anyway, not with the complex clothing system he implemented.
Thank you I think that more eloquently makes the point I was trying to
 
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Carla_BrownBB

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It's an issue with so many of these games being solo projects and the Devs having day jobs and hopefully social lives.

You spend time on the writing you're not making the art, you spend time on the art your not fixing the bugs, youre fixing the bugs everyone hates the update as you didn't progress the story and you've lived with the characters in your head for way longer than you intended (Belle does a really good wrap up to long live the princess explaining some of this stuff), Serio got sent to South Africa with a container ship from work at one point I think he got 1 update in when he got back and then Patreon killed his account (harsh given Selina had no incest, and I don't think he'd even got to penetrative sex with any main characters) so it's a bigger surprise anything gets completed than it is they get abandoned.

He lacked clear foresight when he started this project. If you find me a Dev that fully understood what they where getting into especially on the first game they made, pump them for stock tips as that sort of insight is rare, but I take your point and agree the Dev probably bit of more than he could chew or at least chew quickly

I understand the frustration but it's BB did you really expect it to get finished? I live in hope we will eventually see something and I'd rather it was slow and right than fast and wrong as that means another rework of day 1 after the next rework of day 1, I'd rather not have day 1 of BB being my version of groundhog day (give me a day after Kira arives and we can talk about it)
All these big brother clones draw a lot of attention because It's clearly an addictive and kinky premise.

You hit the nail on the head re. frustration of having to experience day 1 again and again and again.

The marginal increase (if there even will be one) for recreating day 1 at this stage would pale in comparison to refocusing that effort to post BB content everyone has been craving for
 

BigRedRadio

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All these big brother clones draw a lot of attention because It's clearly an addictive and kinky premise.

You hit the nail on the head re. frustration of having to experience day 1 again and again and again.

The marginal increase (if there even will be one) for recreating day 1 at this stage would pale in comparison to refocusing that effort to post BB content everyone has been craving for
Might be a daft question after all these remakes, reimaginings and continuing mods do we even know how BB was meant to end
 

khumak

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Animations would only work for naked bodies anyway, not with the complex clothing system he implemented.
I think the bigger issue with animations is that it takes a lot more render time for each scene and it's actually not easy to create a smooth animation. If he's good at animations, great. If he's not then he's better off doing still images.

Some of my favorite adult games don't have any animations and some of the worst ones I've played do have them. They're a nice bonus if they're done right, but they're just that, a bonus.
 

NecromeN

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Updates will drag on for a long time, money will be drawn from people's pockets where they receive a drop of content.And who knows if the game will reach its logical end or will simply be abandoned.
 

PaxHadrian17

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Updates will drag on for a long time, money will be drawn from people's pockets where they receive a drop of content.And who knows if the game will reach its logical end or will simply be abandoned.
Sadly, the logical end for a number of great VNs is abandonment. Their creators lack the will and/or ability to continue the story beyond a certain point.

Some great VNs get new life with a new creator but too many of the good/potentially great ones die on the vine (Love and Submission).

If we are going to effectively restart BBAS, then it would be nice for the Dev to put out a roadmap for supporters to show how he intends to catch up to where he is now, then surpass it.

I pay a gym to run on a treadmill - not a creator.
 
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WankerDxD

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Until we see next update, it's worth, or just wasting the time by changing minor unnecessary interface things that not needing Months of work.

And until we see the bugs he's talking about, so if he'll waste the time more and more , while all what we care about is updating the opportunities

Whatever, there are a difference between Slow progress in game , and slow updates.

For slow progress, it's normal thing for most games, So for Alice , she should have sex in 2023 to consider Aleksey doing a stable progress.
 
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