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Nemo56

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Alright guys i have a problem i played the original big brother and wanted to give this version a shot.
Since i didnt want to grind that much i used cheats, but now the problem is that i bought the dress and swimsuit and eric wont make a move on the sisters.
I am at war with him but not much happens is there any way to fix this or do i need to start over again?
In Lisas case you need to progress on the Mentor opportunity. When it comes to Alice, it's the blog.

Cheats can mess up everything, it depends on what you changed.
For the red swimsuit and Alice' dress you don't need cheats, a week before it's too late Max will get the idea to get a loan from a bank (that won't unlock if you already have enough money).

ps: Before anything else, get your website up and running.
 

storm1051787

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This is just a game. Why do you emotionally elevate yourself over something that is fictional?

Never understand arguments like this for anything. Some people want to pretend like it's silly to get emotionally invested over fiction despite the fact that most works of fiction are written with the intent to get the audience emotionally invested. That's why there are so many movies who sole intention is just to get people to cry after watching them. This is just another medium. People are going to get emotional over stuff. You might not but there is nothing weird about other being doing so.

For me, that's the problem right there. I am not Max, I am me. I never fuck my mother, nor my sisters. I never fuck underage girl (like Lisa or Olivia, for example). I am just person playing this game.

Why people okay with incest and underage relationship, but not okay with the idea of sharing. It baffles me. They're just fantasy, it's just a game. Why people put emotional attachment to fantasy? It's just silly.

I'm not pro or anti NTR btw, my fantasy fetish is MILF (see my avatar).

People should just play games they like, if some games don't suit them, then just play other games. There are plenty of them here. Why keep arguing over NTR stuff, over and over and over, don't they get tired or something? I don't know, or arguing is their 'fetish' or something.

And this ignores the fact that 90% of protagonists for games on this site are essentially just self inserts for the player. Who cares if you don't see yourself as the protagonist. A lot of people who play these games do and I don't really understand the point in critizing other people for not thinking the same way you do, especially when you are clearly in the minority. Most people who like incest games never want fuck their family either, but they are fine fucking an imaginary family that's supposed to be your family. Your right it's fantasy. And one part of fantasy games is trying to live that fantasy.

Max might not be as blank a slate as say the dragonborn but he and most other protagonist on this site essentially just exists for the player to project themselves onto.
 
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Tirigon

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In Lisas case you need to progress on the Mentor opportunity. When it comes to Alice, it's the blog.

Cheats can mess up everything, it depends on what you changed.
For the red swimsuit and Alice' dress you don't need cheats, a week before it's too late Max will get the idea to get a loan from a bank (that won't unlock if you already have enough money).

ps: Before anything else, get your website up and running.
Thank you i didnt remember it taking so long.. everything seems to be in order
 
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Nemo56

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Thank you i didnt remember it taking so long.. everything seems to be in order
Great. Getting the first 100$ to set up the website usually takes a while. You can clean the pool only so often. During that time not a lot happens (besides the usual peeking on family members).
 
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always86

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Great. Getting the first 100$ to set up the website usually takes a while. You can clean the pool only so often. During that time not a lot happens (besides the usual peeking on family members).
I’m pretty sure you should be able to get the website live by the first Friday. I forget which day you start.

Day 1 - find the camera and order the book. Speak with Ann after she watches TV ask for money and offer to work. Order the groceries.

Day 2 — Ask Ann for money in the morning. Start reading the book. Clean the pool

Day 3 - Ask Ann for money, offer to buy groceries, (and order them), read the book

Day 4 - ask Ann for money, finish the book, set up the website and buy advertising

The Friday May be day 5 in which case you get More money from Ann and do more Groceries. You should be able to buy the items before the second Friday without much bother, but don’t, wait until the Thursday as the credit card is useful.
 

Nemo56

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Everything is fine with your save, don't know what you did wrong not to get this.
I passed time until tuesday morning, then Max spied on Lisa in the shower, made sure to get caught by making noise. After that I had Max apologize to her, that started the event.
I saved the game right before apologizing.

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armion82

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I’m pretty sure you should be able to get the website live by the first Friday. I forget which day you start.

Day 1 - find the camera and order the book. Speak with Ann after she watches TV ask for money and offer to work. Order the groceries.

Day 2 — Ask Ann for money in the morning. Start reading the book. Clean the pool

Day 3 - Ask Ann for money, offer to buy groceries, (and order them), read the book

Day 4 - ask Ann for money, finish the book, set up the website and buy advertising

The Friday May be day 5 in which case you get More money from Ann and do more Groceries. You should be able to buy the items before the second Friday without much bother, but don’t, wait until the Thursday as the credit card is useful.
Didn't the game starts on Thursday?Or it was only in original.
 

TomUK

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Thank you i didnt remember it taking so long.. everything seems to be in order
It's more like a couple of days to get the money from the bank and to buy the dress and/or swimwear, but really you only need these if you're going the 'war' route to try and block off Eric.
 

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It's more like a couple of days to get the money from the bank and to buy the dress and/or swimwear, but really you only need these if you're going the 'war' route to try and block off Eric.
Fair enough
 

TomUK

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I’m pretty sure you should be able to get the website live by the first Friday. I forget which day you start.

Day 1 - find the camera and order the book. Speak with Ann after she watches TV ask for money and offer to work. Order the groceries.

Day 2 — Ask Ann for money in the morning. Start reading the book. Clean the pool

Day 3 - Ask Ann for money, offer to buy groceries, (and order them), read the book

Day 4 - ask Ann for money, finish the book, set up the website and buy advertising

The Friday May be day 5 in which case you get More money from Ann and do more Groceries. You should be able to buy the items before the second Friday without much bother, but don’t, wait until the Thursday as the credit card is useful.
You start the game with $150, you need $100 to buy the the web design book and another $100 to set up the website, on this version you get $15 if you just ask for pocket money, or $10 for ordering groceries and I think $15 for cleaning the pool, so by that math you're still $25 short of being able to buy the web design book on the 2nd day and then the 3rd day you can only get $15 pocket money or $10 for ordering groceries. Then you buy the book and have to read a certain amount of times, so best chance is that you won't be earning money from the webcam before the 5th day and then you got to earn another $50 to promote it. So theoretically you're looking at 8 days before you start earning money.
 

TomUK

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Fair enough
Yeah I think it is that you can get the load on the Thursday and order the clothing to get it by the Friday afternoon in time to give the items to the girls on the Friday before Eric buys them on the Saturday morning.
 

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You start the game with $150, you need $100 to buy the the web design book and another $100 to set up the website, on this version you get $15 if you just ask for pocket money, or $10 for ordering groceries and I think $15 for cleaning the pool, so by that math you're still $25 short of being able to buy the web design book on the 2nd day and then the 3rd day you can only get $15 pocket money or $10 for ordering groceries. Then you buy the book and have to read a certain amount of times, so best chance is that you won't be earning money from the webcam before the 5th day and then you got to earn another $50 to promote it. So theoretically you're looking at 8 days before you start earning money.
You can earn enough from the web site to buy the gifts for both Alice and Lisa before Eric even without using the bank loan, but I find it streamlines things to take the bank loan anyway. Max needs to spend most of his time in the lounge where the camera is for it to work though. The way it's coded doesn't make much sense IMO. It SHOULD be coded so that the money earned by the camera is dependent on where the girls are, what they're doing, and how little they're wearing, but it mostly only depends on Max.
 

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Why keep arguing over NTR stuff, over and over and over, don't they get tired or something? I don't know, or arguing is their 'fetish' or something.
No, incels are exhaustless. An infinite constitution for believing and arguing the delusion that women exist exclusively for their pleasure and the very THOUGHT of a man other than themselves being with a woman, even in a fictional incest fantasy, is absolute heresy. The beleaguered “alpha-mentality” is incapable of tolerating the existence of things like netorare/cuckoldry. Which frankly isn’t even the case in this game. NTR(cuckoldry) requires a previous intimate relationship, which Max doesn’t have when Eric shows up. BB is literally about struggling to obtain dominance, or if you want friend path, so far as now, sharing. Perhaps eventually a “submissive” game over ending.
 
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Never understand arguments like this for anything. Some people want to pretend like it's silly to get emotionally invested over fiction despite the fact that most works of fiction are written with the intent to get the audience emotionally invested. That's why there are so many movies who sole intention is just to get people to cry after watching them. This is just another medium. People are going to get emotional over stuff. You might not but there is nothing weird about other being doing so.
You can get involved, but don't take it too seriously. Emotions can make you lose control.

And this ignores the fact that 90% of protagonists for games on this site are essentially just self inserts for the player. Who cares if you don't see yourself as the protagonist. A lot of people who play these games do and I don't really understand the point in critizing other people for not thinking the same way you do, especially when you are clearly in the minority. Most people who like incest games never want fuck their family either, but they are fine fucking an imaginary family that's supposed to be your family. Your right it's fantasy. And one part of fantasy games is trying to live that fantasy.

Max might not be as blank a slate as say the dragonborn but he and most other protagonist on this site essentially just exists for the player to project themselves onto.
Yes, you don't need to say what I know, nobody wants to play a boring character, but I mean, don't take it too seriously, it's a game to distract. If there is a male npc in the game it is because there is a reason for the story to be constructive, so that things can flow naturally. Be angry with a character? It's normal, imagine if people were angry at villains? but what makes people love characters who are villains? his well-written plots and his charisma. Eric was poorly written in the DS game and in that game, but people hate him because he's fucking a fictional character that is Ann? I blame, maybe I shouldn't blame players who don't like this, but as I said before, a script for the character and a story that engages, I wouldn't see so many complaints from this character.
 

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I could asked what got you riled up that much. It's a fictional game after all, I can call the paths however I want, it's War, Ass Licker and Snitch. Question is: Why do you just got so emotional that you feel the urge to call people crybabies? That is something you just said, not me.
Didn't upset me like you're thinking about, it's just that, I don't think it's fair to call people who want to see a "villainous" protagonist called an asslicker. Eric is not a permanent character, is a temporary character, which makes the MC have his lust and desire for his sister and mother in addition to being more perverse and dominant. If the dev didn't know how to build a story that makes players who hate the character more interested in the story, it would be better to remove him from the game.
People could enjoy the story, get involved if they find it interesting, but want to be stuck in their worlds, so there's no reason to argue, because like you don't argue and they won't change your mind. I make it clear that I am not Eric's lover or NTR's lover.
Which of both are you srious about and which one did you make up?

I don't know the original plan (about that "one path" thing), where did you get the information from? Not here from the forum or from discord, that's for sure. The information I got from the forum was, that the original plan was to make a sequel (with Eric already out, btw).
Btw, I already stated that I don't mind the "sharing" content, there are other games where it's done right (in one of my favorite games there is a up to 5some scene and you as player can decide who gets what hole, this girls and her sis at some point get going with a bunch of cops, so they are distracted and the player can sneak by). It's just that I can't stand this character and how many of his fans see him. Check the fan art, Eric is often abusive and that really is not my thing.
It's not about a NPC getting his dick wet, it's about this very char, I see no way to enjoy being friends with him.
I didn't say there is a story with a path to follow, I said could have, then I pointed out that on the part of whiny players, the game has two paths (friendship and enemy) however this game has 3 paths, which is the fake friend, in which I think useless.
So, since you don't care about sharing content, why complain so much? you could say the character is poorly written and that it would be better to remove it from the game. If I could render as well as Aleksey, maybe create my own version, in which Eric would be a temporary adversary and that in the two different paths you could go, both would be betrayal and kick Eric out. Of course there would be scenes of Eric putting Alice and Lisa for a blowjob and scenes of him fucking Kira, and sharing it with Max, but that would be to build the MC or maybe something that would give gameover to the player. It's hard to say, but I don't see any likelihood of keeping the character in the game and I think it's hard for the other events to happen if he gets his hands on Max's sisters. To be honest, Aleksey didn't know how to build the character but also didn't let the story be shit, so removing it from the game and looking for new alternatives or creativity was a good choice.

My personal view on emotions about fictional characters: People get emotional about the characters of novels, games, movies, TV shows. I own about 500 books (~200 of them about Star Wars), litterally hundreds of story based computer games (ignoring all the arcade and stuff), and plenty of movies on disc, because I like fiction. I like experiencing a good story, living emotional up and downs with well written characters. So yeah, I can like a character and I can dislike him (that's emotions). And I don't see why I should make a difference here. I like what Aleksey did with Alice, I hope he will correct Ann (currently she is just as dumb as in the original) and give a bit more depth to Lisa other than "I am so unexperienced, I need to learn. Teach me".

edit: Sorry, I overread this. This was a normal question without accusations with rather good context, so it deserves an answer.
Yes, of course, I understand that. As I also see people who hate Max, I don't understand that, to tell you the truth, I don't really care. It's normal for people to like a character because of his charisma, I also answer myself that there are boring characters or that they have a boring script. I for one hated to see Alice becoming a lesbian in the DS game, and of him trying to put "mistress"/ submissive content. I don't see Alice like that, I see her in a different character, with different characteristics, I see her as a girl who goes to get money, gold digger, who keeps little secrets, which is to be dominated by a man, that she likes to play hard, who likes to go to nightclubs. I don't think Alice's script in this game is good, but I liked Lisa. But, I see that both she and Olivia, especially Olivia, should use it more and better. I find that little DS script by Lisa, Olivia and Olivia's boyfriend interesting, because there it shows that Lisa has no affection for Max, but when she sees Max fucking Olivia she starts to get a little jealous, which makes Lisa have more eyes for Max, which makes her have more affection for him until the moment she starts to love him and do what he says. The dev should explore this, because in the original story she likes Olivia's boyfriend, Olivia then tries to push him towards her and stay with Max, the two however, after the events, are supposed to fight each other out of Lisa's jealousy, as Olivia goes to the villa to see Max. After Lisa and Olivia get to talk to each other, Lisa starts to grow closer and closer to Max and Max takes advantage of this, teaching her the pleasures of love that is sex. After Max cunniling Lisa and slowly fucking her pussy, it would be interesting for Lisa to ask Olivia for forgiveness and the two to talk again and as a reward, she will share Olivia with Max making a threesome and as Olivia's punishment, she will take Alice's toys and use them on Lisa. It would be something around, in the first events, Olivia's boyfriend will stay with Lisa in her room and Max and Olivia would go to Ann's or Alice's room on Friday (Alice's room if Ann is sleeping in her room), Olivia's boyfriend would just exchange kisses with Lisa, while Max and Olivia would have sex with each other. Lisa then tells Olivia's boyfriend that she is going to the kitchen to get a glass of water and that he should wait, then Lisa sees that the door to Ann or Alice's room is kind of open, let's say closed but a little open and then Lisa sees Max fucking Olivia, and that's when Lisa ends up watching over a shelf and starts having the lust for Max. It's just an idea, I could write more about it, but I don't think anyone will like it. Anyway, Aleksey is doing a nice script for Lisa, but I don't see that for Alice. As for Ann, I don't think there's any way to argue about it, both the original game's scripts and this one aren't that good.

I don't know, I am eager to find out. Personally I'd prefer the "girlfriends" option. If there is a choice in games/novels, I never go the master/slave route. That's just not my thing. I prefer the current sensitive way, I have no need for more perversion. Stuff like that can be used for a good laugh, but I really don't want it to be the center of the game. That scene with Alice where she tried to punish Max ... wonderful. That's how it's done.
What I do hope is that this time at some point at least one of the girls will become aware of the cams or - as
I don't mean to imply that the game has to make girls sex slaves, but I wouldn't want to play anything either Max as the boyfriend of four women. Eric wanted pleasure in the house, he fucks Ann, sees Alice and Lisa as beautiful young women and wants to take advantage of it. If you put yourself as Eric, you would, if Eric were the MC. Max needs to be dominant and not a woman's doormat. The fact is that the punishment system was fun, because Max sabotaged things and got his rewards. This game has a rich history and you have to know how to explore it, but I don't mean that the game needs a master/slave system, but something that was originally. Internal strife is also necessary, I think it's interesting that Max does everything in secret without anyone finding out, Max with his blackmail and they're afraid of being discovered. I like a character more perverse than a lover, I don't see much logic in having a lot of kisses and hugs on something that could have more pleasure, but I don't see this as a bad thing either, it worked well for Lisa, but I don't know if it would work for the others, especially Kira. By the way, I saw that Kira's script and her sex scenes were forced, I hope she has a more interesting script.
 
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