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dwalsh

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I missed this, so sorry for the multi-response.

See, the problem is that the Dev created the game and ran content since he started with a NTR plot being in place. A NTR plot which is inherently based on antagonist action and content. So to say that following said path is taking it off the rails is not true. That's just you saying you did not like that path, therefore anything that you don't like is taking it off the rails.

I think we touched on this previously so no need to beat it to death, but the main gist is that you are claiming the game is about and has always been about one thing when it clearly was not. I don't argue these points on games that never had a NTR path. I don't argue these points on other BB games without Eric content. I argue it here because clearly NTR was planned, as you can even see from Devs previous's pre-development posts, but you're trying to pretend it was not and the entire game is only about Max and everything else is a distraction.

That may be true NOW, but it was not true until now. That's the entire issue. The Dev is changing the path, or he was not clear about the path from the start, but you want to pretend otherwise and act like people who disagree are in the wrong.

I really wish you would just fess up that you like it as is, don't want NTR, and that's that. I would respect that. I think it's selfish, but I get it. I don't respect trying to paint the game as something else or pretending all these NTR people are upset over nothing to justify that stance though.
You keep dancing between lines and trying to bring me into a subject I'm not debating. Please let's stay on character and not fetish. I'm not debating fetish.

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There is a lot more room in the story for other antagonists. If you keep locking your identification of NTR with the character Eric there no end to this.
 

dwalsh

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This is where my problem lies. Some people are mistaking a branch with one character and using it on the pre-tense of being an assault on an entire fetish to hijack the entire story.

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And arresting the development of the entire project. I said it was not necessary before but I'm starting to lean to the idea a poll might be needed. Because currently financial supporters are most against Eric and getting mostly 1/3 of the content (and surprisingly not complaining much) . I'll agree that some are playing the fake friendship too but I'm pretty sure more than less aren't. A poll might be what's needed to put this to an end. If that info becomes available and I'm found wrong, I'll consider it "I've put up so I'll shut up" immediately.
 
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kgirlffx

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You keep dancing between lines and trying to bring me into a subject I'm not debating. Please let's stay on character and not fetish. I'm not debating fetish.

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There is a lot more room in the story for other antagonists. If you keep locking your identification of NTR with the character Eric there no end to this.
I didn't take it there man. You did when you started claiming the story was about one specific thing and other routes are taking it off into the void. That's why I brought it up.


I guess the reason why I am locked in with Eric for NTR is that I don't trust the Dev now. He really baited us hard with Eric and the Lisa story in particular. And then I see people like you who are closer to the Dev have such a clearly anti-stance. What possible trust could there be in a route with antagonists be when the Dev hoodwinked us, and those in contact with him are biased against us?

Not asking to debate NTR here, honestly just asking, You say there will be future antagonists and possible NTR content, but how can we trust it will not be the same failed delivery before being cut as happened here?

Look at it from my PoV. Says you played 20 hours of the game trying to bang Lisa. There is a slow build. Finally, the stage is set. You're in. It's happening. Lisa then gets a headache and the next day announces she is moving so the plotline is over. Would you be cool with that? The specifics are different, but that is essentially what happened with the Lisa - Eric plot.

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As for your last response, dude, a single logline in a generic story summary means almost nothing. What actually happens in the story is what matters. And what happened was a NTR plot was dangled for the entire development. You can argue it was never the point if you want, but it was for a lot of people, and it was presented as a real path.

As for poll and more supporters backing non-NTR. Fine. Dev is here to make money. Still makes it a dick move to pretend at NTR to get those people on the hook until he can throw them away.

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I understand this post dives back into NTR. Please look it at less as my wanting to debate NTR as a whole or pushing for for Eric. That ship sailed. I am asking about your claim of future antagonist plots only. So no need to debate fetish itself as you do not wish to. I'm fine focusing on broken trust and the future of the game.
 
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dwalsh

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He's already dragged most of his base along for the Eric ride so...... It is what it is. He's said the Eric route will continue a little longer so....... Yay.
Take this analogy have you ever seen a tree with branches larger than its trunk? I'm not sure about you but I'd travel to what ever country to see that because it will not be something normal. Branch are generally shorter than the tree and small than the trunk. Same principle. Eric's branch elongating to me is not natural and risk the tree toppling. As for your reward you play to the end of your branch get your ending and move on. Play more branches for more ending s but the main story (trunk) goes on.

Edit: Sorry kgirlffx didn't tap reply. My bad
 
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Shirafune

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I didn't take it there man. You did when you started claiming the story was about one specific thing and other routes are taking it off into the void. That's why I brought it up.


I guess the reason why I am locked in with Eric for NTR is that I don't trust the Dev now. He really baited us hard with Eric and the Lisa story in particular. And then I see people like you who are closer to the Dev have such a clearly anti-stance. What possible trust could there be in a route with antagonists be when the Dev hoodwinked us, and those in contact with him are biased against us?

Not asking to debate NTR here, honestly just asking, You say there will be future antagonists and possible NTR content, but how can we trust it will not be the same failed delivery before being cut as happened here?

Look at it from my PoV. Says you played 20 hours of the game trying to bang Lisa. There is a slow build. Finally, the stage is set. You're in. It's happening. Lisa then gets a headache and the next day announces she is moving so the plotline is over. Would you be cool with that? The specifics are different, but that is essentially what happened with the Lisa - Eric plot.

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As for your last response, dude, a single logline in a generic story summary means almost nothing. What actually happens in the story is what matters. And what happened was a NTR plot was dangled for the entire development. You can argue it was never the point if you want, but it was for a lot of people, and it was presented as a real path.

As for poll and more supporters backing non-NTR. Fine. Dev is here to make money. Still makes it a dick move to pretend at NTR to get those people on the hook until he can throw them away.

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I understand this post dives back into NTR. Please look it at less as my wanting to debate NTR as a whole or pushing for for Eric. That ship sailed. I am asking about your claim of future antagonist plots only. So no need to debate fetish itself as you do not wish to. I'm fine focusing on broken trust and the future of the game.
The truth has been spoken, I was subscribed to Aleksey90 until it turned out that Eric's leaving and there won't be NTR in the end, sad times
 

TomUK

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I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
Exception: DynamicImage u'Ann hugging morning-annroom [var_pose]-1[var_dress][mgg.dress]': could not find image. (u'Ann hugging morning-annroom 01-1jc')

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 331, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "renpy/main.py", line 662, in main
run(restart)
File "renpy/main.py", line 148, in run
renpy.execution.run_context(True)
File "renpy/execution.py", line 922, in run_context
context.run()
File "core/core.rpyc", line 570, in script call
File "core/core.rpyc", line 570, in script call
File "dialogues/alicetalk.rpyc", line 60, in script call
File "dialogues/lisatalk.rpyc", line 51, in script call
File "dialogues/alicetalk.rpyc", line 60, in script call
File "core/core.rpyc", line 570, in script call
File "events/ann.rpyc", line 302, in script call
File "events/ann.rpyc", line 513, in script
File "core/core.rpyc", line 570, in script call
File "core/core.rpyc", line 570, in script call
File "dialogues/alicetalk.rpyc", line 60, in script call
File "dialogues/lisatalk.rpyc", line 51, in script call
File "dialogues/alicetalk.rpyc", line 60, in script call
File "core/core.rpyc", line 570, in script call
File "events/ann.rpyc", line 302, in script call
File "events/ann.rpyc", line 513, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1328, in execute
show_imspec(self.imspec, atl=getattr(self, "atl", None))
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1167, in show_imspec
atl=atl)
File "renpy/exports.py", line 768, in show
sls.add(layer, img, key, zorder, behind, at_list=at_list, name=name, atl=atl, default_transform=default_transform, transient=transient)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 1147, in add
thing.visit_all(lambda d : None)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 568, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 568, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 568, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 558, in visit_all
for d in self.visit():
File "renpy/display/image.py", line 744, in visit
self.find_target()
File "renpy/display/image.py", line 652, in find_target
raise Exception(error)
Exception: DynamicImage u'Ann hugging morning-annroom [var_pose]-1[var_dress][mgg.dress]': could not find image. (u'Ann hugging morning-annroom 01-1jc')

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Ren'Py 7.4.11.2266
Большой брат: Другая история 0.08.0.05
Sat Apr 23 19:14:27 2022



After giving Ann the nightie and just before she hugs the MC I got this exception. I was doing another run through of the game, but this time in friend mode with Eric..
 

dwalsh

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I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
Exception: DynamicImage u'Ann hugging morning-annroom [var_pose]-1[var_dress][mgg.dress]': could not find image. (u'Ann hugging morning-annroom 01-1jc')

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 331, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "renpy/main.py", line 662, in main
run(restart)
File "renpy/main.py", line 148, in run
renpy.execution.run_context(True)
File "renpy/execution.py", line 922, in run_context
context.run()
File "core/core.rpyc", line 570, in script call
File "core/core.rpyc", line 570, in script call
File "dialogues/alicetalk.rpyc", line 60, in script call
File "dialogues/lisatalk.rpyc", line 51, in script call
File "dialogues/alicetalk.rpyc", line 60, in script call
File "core/core.rpyc", line 570, in script call
File "events/ann.rpyc", line 302, in script call
File "events/ann.rpyc", line 513, in script
File "core/core.rpyc", line 570, in script call
File "core/core.rpyc", line 570, in script call
File "dialogues/alicetalk.rpyc", line 60, in script call
File "dialogues/lisatalk.rpyc", line 51, in script call
File "dialogues/alicetalk.rpyc", line 60, in script call
File "core/core.rpyc", line 570, in script call
File "events/ann.rpyc", line 302, in script call
File "events/ann.rpyc", line 513, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1328, in execute
show_imspec(self.imspec, atl=getattr(self, "atl", None))
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1167, in show_imspec
atl=atl)
File "renpy/exports.py", line 768, in show
sls.add(layer, img, key, zorder, behind, at_list=at_list, name=name, atl=atl, default_transform=default_transform, transient=transient)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 1147, in add
thing.visit_all(lambda d : None)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 568, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 568, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 568, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 558, in visit_all
for d in self.visit():
File "renpy/display/image.py", line 744, in visit
self.find_target()
File "renpy/display/image.py", line 652, in find_target
raise Exception(error)
Exception: DynamicImage u'Ann hugging morning-annroom [var_pose]-1[var_dress][mgg.dress]': could not find image. (u'Ann hugging morning-annroom 01-1jc')

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.11.2266
Большой брат: Другая история 0.08.0.05
Sat Apr 23 19:14:27 2022



After giving Ann the nightie and just before she hugs the MC I got this exception. I was doing another run through of the game, but this time in friend mode with Eric..
.Black Panther.
 
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dwalsh

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Is there meant to be a bug fix for that on their profile?
Nah, but you should tag him for a quicker response. He most likely will be the one to help. I played that scene myself without error but I'm using a mobile.
 

dwalsh

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He's already dragged most of his base along for the Eric ride so...... It is what it is. He's said the Eric route will continue a little longer so....... Yay.
Take this analogy have you ever seen a tree with branches larger than its trunk? I'm not sure about you but I'd travel to what ever country to see that because it will not be something normal. Branch are generally shorter than the tree and small than the trunk. Same principle. Eric's branch elongating to me is not natural and risk the tree toppling. As for your reward you play to the end of your branch get your ending and move on. Play more branches for more ending s but the main story (trunk) goes on.

Edit: Sorry kgirlffx didn't tap reply. My bad
Edit: 2 Yes there are going to be other antagonists as far as my limited knowledge goes.
 

sinnerman13

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Is there anyone else play this game in android? Just wanna ask, do you have same problem? The app always force close or crash

Is it because i only 2 GB RAM? or maybe the app itself has a bug?
 

.Black Panther.

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Just asking did you install the latest bug fix?
No, Bug Fix 6 - 7 is not installed
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After giving Ann the nightie and just before she hugs the MC I got this exception. I was doing another run through of the game, but this time in friend mode with Eric..
Click on my signature. In the post that you will be referred to, you can find the latest bug fix.
Install it on the game. Run the game again and check if a similar error message appears to you or not.
 
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.Black Panther.

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Is there anyone else play this game in android? Just wanna ask, do you have same problem? The app always force close or crash

Is it because i only 2 GB RAM? or maybe the app itself has a bug?
Yes, the lack of RAM in smartphones can cause problems in running games made by Ren'py game engine. Check if you have a similar problem with other games made by this game engine or not.
Also check if you are using the official version of the game or using unofficial versions.
 

TomUK

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Just asking did you install the latest bug fix?
Just did, Black Panther (thanks) sent me the latest link for it, at least it worked to fix the problem, just weird that on one run through there wasn't a problem and on another there was.
 

.Black Panther.

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Just did, Black Panther (thanks) sent me the latest link for it, at least it worked to fix the problem, just weird that on one run through there wasn't a problem and on another there was.
Not weird, variables, classes, etc. in the game paths can be different
 
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