Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.09.00] [Aleksey90]

[Summer Love]

The dev has said many times, friendship with Eric will end badly for Max or Eric. If it ends badly for Eric, Eric will be gone, if for Max, game over. Don't get me wrong, you do not have to get rid of Eric, right away. But at some point, you must decide, end for Max, or end for Eric. Max is MC not Eric, without Eric game continues, without Max, the end, simple as that.

I get what you're saying... but look at it this way. If Eric gets hogtied and launched across the city with a trebuchet... then what happens to the game? The struggle between Max and Eric IS the game. You are fighting for supremacy against him. Losing that struggle ends the game, but winning the struggle wins you the Harem. If Eric gets erased from the fabric of time, then that takes any fulfillment and sense of accomplishment away. It takes the game away.

I do not want to see this game turn into a VN with extra steps, I honestly don't. There needs to be some kind of conflict to give the player something to do aside from hunting for nudes. The nudes are the reward, not the objective. Replace Eric with someone else, I honestly do not care, just give me something to do so that this game stays a game.

Edit: I might have misunderstood the spirit of your post. This is more for the people that want Eric gone completely, not for you specifically.

 

[Derychte]

Well, it's been said 4000 times, but here goes 4001. YES, ERIC WILL BE GONE. But if you're so in love with Eric, just let him win, he'll send Max away, and you can go play something else.

Wait so this Update kinda is the "end" of the main stroy? What will the future updates look like?

 

[Bird1019]

Not speaking for everyone, but generally when a MC is able to fuck every chick in the game with the snap of his fingers, that's when the game starts to lose interest.

 

[Nemo56]

I get what you're saying... but look at it this way. If Eric gets hogtied and launched across the city with a trebuchet... then what happens to the game?

Then it will get better or at least be more enjoyable.

The struggle between Max and Eric IS the game

No, it's not. This "struggle" was annoying, nothing else. Most story arcs have nothing to do with Eric in the first place, he is only present in very few arcs and ... I don't miss him in these. It's a lot more fun to find out how to manipulate Alice (first) with liquor pralines, with pranks and some nice actions, than interrupt anything that Eric might or might not be doing. Gladly, he doesn't do much, so one has not to bother too much. If you remember to poison him on a regular base you hardly notice he's here. The struggle defines only a very small part of the game which can be ignored easily.
What I am looking for is not a obsolete struggle with a virtual character, but fun writing, a little bit of finding out what to do next, discovering new events and opportunities, maybe also a bit problem solving. For all that I don't need a Eric. Back in the Days I found Man of the House very nice. Again ... no Eric.

You mentioned something like the game being a VN without Eric. The gameplay mechanics have little to nothing to do with it's content. There are VNs with arch enemies and there are free roaming games without.
BB is actually one of the games, that almost go towards the adventure game play, more than most free roaming games. Find out what to do, look for items, talk to people, use stuff. What I miss a bit, are more combinations compared to the old aif text adventures. But since everything has to be rendered these days, that won't come back. Did you notice that I didn't mention Eric here? He is not part of the gameplay mechanics, these won't change once he's gone.

 

[Pervie-Dan]

Not speaking for everyone, but generally when a MC is able to fuck every chick in the game with the snap of his fingers, that's when the game starts to lose interest.

Aleksey has mentioned that there will be new challenges coming for Max.
Kate (Alice's girlfriend, not the MC from Glamour) and money (Ann will most likely lose her job after Eric is gone) are only two ways that could be used directly after Eric is gone.

I also remember that there will be a massage parlour where Max can go to and work, so there can be other challenges involved there as well.

I agree with you that a game where every girl just falls for the MC when she meets him (or his golden cock, like in Glamour) is rather boring. But I don't see that happening in BB:AS at least for now.

 

[evko]

money (Ann will most likely lose her job after Eric is gone)

Money, in this case, is not a problem, but a way to seduce Ann.

 

[alefrago77]

If you dont manage what you think, then better beg..max's way, sucks

 

[gelu123]

Then it will get better or at least be more enjoyable.


No, it's not. This "struggle" was annoying, nothing else. Most story arcs have nothing to do with Eric in the first place, he is only present in very few arcs and ... I don't miss him in these. It's a lot more fun to find out how to manipulate Alice (first) with liquor pralines, with pranks and some nice actions, than interrupt anything that Eric might or might not be doing. Gladly, he doesn't do much, so one has not to bother too much. If you remember to poison him on a regular base you hardly notice he's here. The struggle defines only a very small part of the game which can be ignored easily.
What I am looking for is not a obsolete struggle with a virtual character, but fun writing, a little bit of finding out what to do next, discovering new events and opportunities, maybe also a bit problem solving. For all that I don't need a Eric. Back in the Days I found Man of the House very nice. Again ... no Eric.

You mentioned something like the game being a VN without Eric. The gameplay mechanics have little to nothing to do with it's content. There are VNs with arch enemies and there are free roaming games without.
BB is actually one of the games, that almost go towards the adventure game play, more than most free roaming games. Find out what to do, look for items, talk to people, use stuff. What I miss a bit, are more combinations compared to the old aif text adventures. But since everything has to be rendered these days, that won't come back. Did you notice that I didn't mention Eric here? He is not part of the gameplay mechanics, these won't change once he's gone.

Sry to tell ya mate but after eric was gone the game was goin downwards and lost its touch , whether or not this game will also fail to deliver after eric is gone remains in aleksey‘s hands. Truth be told eric now is kinda in the middle of being useless (drugging him so he barely is in the game) and being a true antagonist ( fkin the familly and actually humiliating max ). Nothing with Eric/Alice or Lisa so far (and i dont mean sex lessons). We still need kira and eric real blackmail and humiation of that slut and also some eric making alice drunk and forcing himself on her. some mmf content where eric is either friend or bitch is also important to happen ( yeah not all people imagine they are a stupid protagonist kid that would hunt his familly as a sexual predator so i dont care about sharing content which lacked some aspects in original bb and only had one or two scenes with ann sharing).

 

[armion82]

Not speaking for everyone, but generally when a MC is able to fuck every chick in the game with the snap of his fingers, that's when the game starts to lose interest.

Where are all these games where MC is fucking the girls with the snap pf his fingers?I can't find any.
MC needs to use at least his fingers to fuck a girl,it's not working just with a snap
Joke aside-I don't understand how playing 300+ days in old BB and maybe around same amount here to reach a sex scene,is fucking a girl very easily.

 

[Deleted member 2755092]

Where are all these games where MC is fucking the girls with the snap pf his fingers?I can't find any.

WMV https://f95zone.to/threads/wvm-v0-10-0-1-beta-braindrop.35910/
Then again, in that one, you don't even need to snap your fingers, you just... are there, and get fucked, non stop

Joking aside though, I think I understand what the poster was saying.
Once you can get sex too easily, it just becomes boring. If you have nothing to overcome, no obstacle, then the game becomes boring.
I can understand his point, and agree with it.
The problem some of us have with games like BB or the mods from it, are that it is near impossible not to get the girls fucked by others. Personally, if they get fucked because I messed up, it's on me, but if you just have to witness it non stop, then it's no good either

 

[armion82]

WMV https://f95zone.to/threads/wvm-v0-10-0-1-beta-braindrop.35910/
Then again, in that one, you don't even need to snap your fingers, you just... are there, and get fucked, non stop

Joking aside though, I think I understand what the poster was saying.
Once you can get sex too easily, it just becomes boring. If you have nothing to overcome, no obstacle, then the game becomes boring.
I can understand his point, and agree with it.
The problem some of us have with games like BB or the mods from it, are that it is near impossible not to get the girls fucked by others. Personally, if they get fucked because I messed up, it's on me, but if you just have to witness it non stop, then it's no good either

That is just 1 game from more than 10 000.
Exactly WVM is one of the most fun games here.At least for me.It's a nice change that we have a really nice MC,not the usual creep,blackmailer etc.Also harem without incest.

 

[Krugger]

It is useless to argue about Eric or any other male NPC present in the game. In the case of WMV where there are male characters, none of them fuck any girl and if by chance the developer puts it, the whole community will complain about NTR.
The biggest truth is that you can't have another male character besides the MC, because people seem to be embodying a fictional character and get jealous, which I am amazed to see. It is useless to argue about it, many are closed-minded and not open-minded. On the other hand, many developers don't know how to develop a character well, so it's something that becomes whatever. Here you cannot talk about Eric or say that any developer who is creating BB to give more continuity to the character or develop it better, because you will be called Eric-Lover or NTR lover.

Talking about Eric, unfortunately it was not developed as some imagined it to be, a year passed and it took him 4 months to create a part of the development which was the clothing system that went nowhere. It's quite likely that Eric will exit the game in an unconventional way, like, "Mom, I'm seeing Eric run his hand over Alice's body, go see. Ann will go check it out and kick Eric out of the house." So if it's to take Eric out of the game, then do it, it seems most don't want to see him, much less another male NPC. But implementing a game over would be stupid. Do you spend HOURS grinding so you can have a game over in a porn game? This is stupid to do. Unfortunately there will be no development of Eric taking Max to a strip club and introducing him to some girls or showing a part of his dirty business to Max and then see Max betraying on him and kicks him out after stealing everything from him.

 

[OnlyOnce1]

That is just 1 game from more than 10 000.

https://f95zone.to/threads/solvalley-school-v1-6-0-tk8000.3368/ - the second (and not the last) one.
Yeah, there's much more games with senseless grinding before you can snap your fingers...
But there's not a bit of interest in just fucking or just grinding.

 

[Bilzzzz]

Save please

 

[L0thar]

Save please

On the first page of the thread. Black Panther. has posted a link to latest saves.
Just search.
https://f95zone.to/threads/big-brot...3-extra-aleksey90.43101/page-509#post-5790156

PS

And you could thank. Black Panther for that.

 

[Bilzzzz]

On the first page of the thread. Black Panther. has posted a link to latest saves.
Just search.
https://f95zone.to/threads/big-brot...3-extra-aleksey90.43101/page-509#post-5790156

PS

And you could thank. Black Panther for that.

Ok thank you

 

[gelu123]

It is useless to argue about Eric or any other male NPC present in the game. In the case of WMV where there are male characters, none of them fuck any girl and if by chance the developer puts it, the whole community will complain about NTR.
The biggest truth is that you can't have another male character besides the MC, because people seem to be embodying a fictional character and get jealous, which I am amazed to see. It is useless to argue about it, many are closed-minded and not open-minded. On the other hand, many developers don't know how to develop a character well, so it's something that becomes whatever. Here you cannot talk about Eric or say that any developer who is creating BB to give more continuity to the character or develop it better, because you will be called Eric-Lover or NTR lover.

Talking about Eric, unfortunately it was not developed as some imagined it to be, a year passed and it took him 4 months to create a part of the development which was the clothing system that went nowhere. It's quite likely that Eric will exit the game in an unconventional way, like, "Mom, I'm seeing Eric run his hand over Alice's body, go see. Ann will go check it out and kick Eric out of the house." So if it's to take Eric out of the game, then do it, it seems most don't want to see him, much less another male NPC. But implementing a game over would be stupid. Do you spend HOURS grinding so you can have a game over in a porn game? This is stupid to do. Unfortunately there will be no development of Eric taking Max to a strip club and introducing him to some girls or showing a part of his dirty business to Max and then see Max betraying on him and kicks him out after stealing everything from him.

Exactly , one thing said above makes me depressed too, that because of some people the game will suffer and it wont have meaningfull antagonist . Like it or not eric is necessary to this game even if alpha male virgins hate ntr stuff.

 

[Twelvemonkey]

You do realize that what Eric did and might do was just being a bad guy, you know that right? It's only human to me. On the other hand, what Max did and tried to do was to corrupt every member of his family because he's sexually attracted to them. That is one fucked up little shit you were playing as. I want to kill him, not Eric.

 

[gelu123]

You do realize that what Eric did and might do was just being a bad guy, you know that right? It's only human to me. On the other hand, what Max did and tried to do was to corrupt every member of his family because he's sexually attracted to them. That is one fucked up little shit you were playing as. I want to kill him, not Eric.

Having more content with eric actually means a better story telling than the old sex familly incest.Hard to relate to max … thats why events like kira/Ann/Alice and eric should be more fun. Make them avoidable at some extent if some arent happy but for the rest they should appear in game . Sacrificing alice for kira was an opportunitty in past game and it actually was a choice that we tought about and had repercussions, was it really worth giving alice pussy to eric by telling him about her liqiour problem so eric would stop fking her?( currently only a small bj happens which lemme tell you it can be extended cause the severitty of max being caught having sex with kira is easilly a reason for eric to have sex with her)

 

[por12]

You do realize that what Eric did and might do was just being a bad guy, you know that right? It's only human to me. On the other hand, what Max did and tried to do was to corrupt every member of his family because he's sexually attracted to them. That is one fucked up little shit you were playing as. I want to kill him, not Eric.

its a sexual fantasy game,nothing real can be applied here.
that being said,if we would like to apply moral constraints on the game then yes eric is just a guy who wants to fuck everyone(but he too fap to the naked alice while creeping on her sleep,thats bad) and max is a damn bastard who sell his family privacy for money and peek on everyone.
so max is the baddest one here by a far mile.

if we consider the original big brother game where eric want to steal the house and kick the girls out then he is not so good either.