Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.09.00] [Aleksey90]

[Nemo56]

You have no idea how coding works. I know this because everything you just monologued about made no goddamn sense. Take the tinfoil hat off, my guy. Importing saves from other users does not work because it is possible to inject malicious code into the save file that could utterly destroy your computer, or steal your files and information. IT IS A SAFETY FEATURE.

Changing dialogue in a sandbox does absolutely nothing to break your save, it is the changing/addition/removal of variables and dependencies that causes saves to break. If you use an Incest patch in your save and try to play without it, you will more than likely run into errors because the VARIABLES that the patch introduced to the code are no longer present in any of the games files.

Stop whining about shit you know nothing about...

He didn't understand what the question was about, he thought it was about savegames not being compatible between updates. Had to unblock him for a sec to see what you were answering to
(and he still seems to put in quite some effort to stay on my ignore list)

 

[khumak]

I don't see why people get so riled up about save game compatibility. Most devs are not going to intentionally break save game compatibility, but sometimes you might want to tweak things that happen earlier in the game or change the way you handle certain variables or something and that's just going to break old saves or cause unforseen issues. There's a very easy solution to this problem. It's called starting a new game...

 

[Nemo56]

That's what you get when you play unfinished games, just pure straight forward VNs tend to be an exception, but there is no guarantee.

 

[BigRedRadio]

I wonder if there is still any Eric's storyline in the game. So far, it feels like Eric's storyline has been deleted by the author, and without it, the game is dead.

I think the plan was to introduce Eric at a more sensible pace than the day after Anne started her new job but then the updates pace was glacially slow compared with expectation so what should have been a short delay for plot purposes has turned into a ridiculously long delay

 

[OnlyFunz]

I think the plan was to introduce Eric at a more sensible pace than the day after Anne started her new job but then the updates pace was glacially slow compared with expectation so what should have been a short delay for plot purposes has turned into a ridiculously long delay

Exactly, I've been mentioning this since 2020.. that the story build-up and plot needs to be refined.
I hope it is heading in the right direction this time!

https://f95zone.to/threads/big-brother-another-story-rebuild-v0-06-01-aleksey90.43101/post-3378225

The main problem in the Plot could have been averted: had the Developer introduced Eric in later point of the game, after Kira shows up and Max learns about Ann's past.

Then as Max develops romantic feelings with Ann, helping her around the house and with Kira's tricky ways (Carpal tunnel syndrome) to help Max with his Sexual desire. Also, getting Ann closer to Max.

 

[Nemo56]

I would not move him too far intop the future. Ann's past and personal profile was one major reasons why Eric was able to do his shenanigans in the first place. If Max would already know how to exploit it, he could put an end to Erics influence very quickly.

I'm just glad that there will only be two paths this time. One for those who want to kick Erics ass and the other for the ones who want to lick it.

 

[OnlyFunz]

Well, if the Rebuild is going to follow the same plot..

What I envision is:
Ann's past has to benefit Max (us Players), so we get to exploit Ann in many ways than before.
Kira could always replace Eric's role to make Max get-closer/enjoy Ann in secret. (Blindfolds, cuffs and stuffs)
This would establish a proper romantic connection with Kira as well, than just being a guide for Max.

With the way the Story started off this time - Eric can wait until we get a taste of all the Girls

I'm guessing, the plan to have multiple Chapters is to easily reboot a Chapter if needed in the future!
Hoping that we won't have to endure another Reboot!

 

[BigRedRadio]

Well, if the Rebuild is going to follow the same plot..

What I envision is:
Ann's past has to benefit Max (us Players), so we get to exploit Ann in many ways than before.
Kira could always replace Eric's role to make Max get-closer/enjoy Ann in secret. (Blindfolds, cuffs and stuffs)
This would establish a proper romantic connection with Kira as well, than just being a guide for Max.

With the way the Story started off this time - Eric can wait until we get a taste of all the Girls

I'm guessing, the plan to have multiple Chapters is to easily reboot a Chapter if needed in the future!
Hoping that we won't have to endure another Reboot!

Kira has a weird role in the original in that initially she's Max's mentor and link between the world of the the girls and his world (which early on is mostly rattling round an almost empty house being ignored by Alice.)

Kira gives him the "in" with Lisa and Anne and then vanishes for a lot of the game only cropping up as a deus ex machina to the families problems. Need to get rid of Eric ? Kira knows a man who can, Need a source of income? Kira can get you going, want to screw your mom/sisters in an environment they'll accept? Kira's your girl. Want to have a conversation with Kira that isn't bailing everyone else out? nope try the next update.

Kira vanishing midgame just seems weird to me she's a catalyst for almost everything then stops being part of the game

 

[khumak]

Kira has a weird role in the original in that initially she's Max's mentor and link between the world of the the girls and his world (which early on is mostly rattling round an almost empty house being ignored by Alice.)

Kira gives him the "in" with Lisa and Anne and then vanishes for a lot of the game only cropping up as a deus ex machina to the families problems. Need to get rid of Eric ? Kira knows a man who can, Need a source of income? Kira can get you going, want to screw your mom/sisters in an environment they'll accept? Kira's your girl. Want to have a conversation with Kira that isn't bailing everyone else out? nope try the next update.

Kira vanishing midgame just seems weird to me she's a catalyst for almost everything then stops being part of the game

The bigger issue I have always had with Kira is the idea that she would be not just willing but seemingly eager to help Max fuck his own mother and sister, even going so far as giving lessons in anal sex to her own niece and nephew. There are plenty of more believable ways to set up the sex scenes with the rest of the family (believable for a porn game at least). I still like the game but it pretty much requires so much suspension of disbelief that you have to basically just assume that everything is going to be completely ridiculous and not really have any plausible justification. It's not quite as bad as blatant mind control but it's pretty close.

Olivia is a perfect example of a plausible way to develop Lisa's path. You have a girl Max is not related to that Max can have his way with and it would make complete sense for Lisa to have a front row seat to that and be turned on by it so you could set that up to escalate in a more reasonable (for a porn game) manner until she joins in.

 

[Kakakku]

Hi

 

[BigRedRadio]

The bigger issue I have always had with Kira is the idea that she would be not just willing but seemingly eager to help Max fuck his own mother and sister, even going so far as giving lessons in anal sex to her own niece and nephew. There are plenty of more believable ways to set up the sex scenes with the rest of the family (believable for a porn game at least). I still like the game but it pretty much requires so much suspension of disbelief that you have to basically just assume that everything is going to be completely ridiculous and not really have any plausible justification. It's not quite as bad as blatant mind control but it's pretty close.

Olivia is a perfect example of a plausible way to develop Lisa's path. You have a girl Max is not related to that Max can have his way with and it would make complete sense for Lisa to have a front row seat to that and be turned on by it so you could set that up to escalate in a more reasonable (for a porn game) manner until she joins in.

I actually have very little issue with Kira setting up Ann. Kira has basically been the bad sheep of the family and disapproved of even by Ann for her choices, so helping Max is Kiras way of proving to Ann and herself that Ann is just as flawed.

Ann could take the moral high ground and find another way (she tries this with a maids job in one of the versions) but this is Kiras version of the Jokers "one bad day" faced with a similar situation Ann would be no better than Kira (and is arguably worse)

I could make a case that the sisters are levers to help move Anns moral compass but that seems rather sociopathic the alternative being that they are more like collateral damage and as long as everyone's having fun why stop the party.

Olivia is a bit of an issue, Max hooks up with Olivia, happy couple and occasional threesome with Lisa and ... there's no linkage to anything else that's kind of End of the game Max with Olivia and maybe Lisa, Ann with Eric and Alice with Kate.

There's sort of a route into Alice via Kate and Max's Voyeurism but Ann is a very hard route to work to

Unless you go the Eric sex slave route with Olivias mum and then there's a whole new set of headaches

As an asideI always find it interesting Eric gets everyone bent out of shape (either for or against) but no one cares about exclusivity with Kira who's off doing porn movies half the game

 

[BigRedRadio]

Hi

Hello, welcome aboard

 

[Summer Love]

I could make a case that the sisters are levers to help move Anns moral compass but that seems rather sociopathic the alternative being that they are more like collateral damage and as long as everyone's having fun why stop the party.

The entire game is rather sociopathic by design as it is a corruption game. Max is ultimately the embodiment of every horny loser that thinks of very little other than how to get into a girl's pants. The progression from that point is to whittle down everyone's morality until everyone is as much of a horny loser as Max is. Corrupting one's mother into being a porn actress for normal people that care about their mothers would be unthinkable, but for Max, it is an acceptable course of action because it means he gets closer to degrading Ann's morality enough to consider sex with her Son.

 

[liodos]

can anyone share the new teaser?thx..

 

[bargian]

So which version should i download?
0.6 or 0.9? another rebuild ? im sorry, im stiupid so i need more explanation then its in 1st page

 

[belluair]

no update for 3 months pending, waiting for the developer

 

[Nemo56]

 

[Nemo56]

So which version should i download?
0.6 or 0.9? another rebuild ? im sorry, im stiupid so i need more explanation then its in 1st page

Not "another", except if you count in that it was first meant to be an expansion for the original BB.

BBAS 0.9 is the old version with more story content, but development stopped, it won't be continued.
BBAS rebuild 0.6 is the ... Tadaa! Rebuild. Story changes, gameplay changes, new characters, fewer characters, different eric route (once he gets to it), minigames, max dreaming (a compromise in order to see some so-far-non-action once in a while)

 

[bargian]

Not "another", except if you count in that it was first meant to be an expansion for the original BB.

BBAS 0.9 is the old version with more story content, but development stopped, it won't be continued.
BBAS rebuild 0.6 is the ... Tadaa! Rebuild. Story changes, gameplay changes, new characters, fewer characters, different eric route (once he gets to it), minigames, max dreaming (a compromise in order to see some so-far-non-action once in a while)

So... is it playable as its now? i mean 0.6? is it even worth downloading?

 

[Nemo56]

Well ... for me it is, but maybe wait for the update in december. Because it's important to know that the savegames currently don't remain compatible between the updates until Chapter 1 is complete. This is by design, since he does not just add more stuff at the end, but balance and change events at the beginning (so basically it's normal game development and not just new pics for a VN).

At this point I suggest playing BBAS 0.9 first, it has a LOT more content. Check out the rebuild later. It's not even sure how much and which of the old content will make it into the remake. For example he will merge both Pro-Eric paths into one.