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I doubt most of us were stupid teenagers like Max, even when we were stupid teenagersOf course I watch these games just for fun,it never crossed my mind that I'm a stupid teenager like Max.
Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.09.00] [Aleksey90]
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Dude, I sent some people this link since they love Eric's content only (they don't accept those who Eric will get kicked at the first moment)
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It's a part of it, I think it would be inaccurate to say it's a large part of it but it is definitely present
If the girls won't be screwed by Eric, then the game will be screwed by the dev. This is the fundamental law of BB physics, proven time and again.
Well, all previous versions (I mean original unity-based ans first "another story") were abandoned, both had Eric included, so maybe he is like a plague, killing bb games. Maybe this time this plague must be just burned down to get some finished game xD
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The old build was just fine. I would not worry.
The stories worked fine without him. He was just "there", sitting in his room (or on the toilet, when I poisoned him once a week), while the rest of the story took place. At some point he got kicked out and that worked too. The story arc with Alice (Eric not included) was great, the way she tried to punish Max and failed miserably very fun.
Don't worry, Alexey knows what he's doing. He does not need some shady abusive side character to make his game work.
naofumi111 I think thie "curse" of the Big Brother games are that noe one ever had a finished concept of the story and at what point it would be "complete". They all just kept going until support run out and implemented and in DarkSilvers case included whatever the community asked for without having a vision of their own. So far Alexey seems to do his own thing, I sure hope he has a plan and womt't just "see how it goes"
I don't want to go much offtop, but I wonder how many novels were abandoned by their developers.
I guess, the problem you described is not only about any of BB games, it's about development process, considering it's just (mostly) one person who may just doesn't have whole scenario vision, so they just don't know what to do to finish whole game. In addition, they may not fully understand the basic gameloop (it actually means much if we talk about sanbox-type novels). Plus, when we talk about some Japanese novels made and published, they're all made by studios (maybe small ones, but still), so if one of dev. team members stopped working, others just continue to work until the final release.
P. S. So I hope Alexey has his own vision of the story and it's just takes time to make it real during development process.
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Yeah, it's a common desease. BB is just a very famous "franchise", where many people took notice.
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Not more than there already are. Max,Alice,Lisa getting punished is part of the story, even gameplay (it makes a difference if you prevent a punishment or let it happen), in the original even Ann got punished at some point. In the previous build Alice tried some SM with Max, failed however.
But I don't think that sort of content will be pushed, the game is just not about that, never was. It's about relationship development, not kinks.
We DO have some cliches in here: Lisa the innocent schoolgirl who needs to be tought, Alice the bitch who gets tricked, Kira the sexy perverted easy to have aunt, Ann the stupid mom who pretty much does whatever the plot demands.
But that's always just the catalysator. Alexeys game really was about Max trying to build a relatiobnship. In Ann's case for example you be a good sone and do chores and whatever, later give hugs when needed (after she got fired), in Alices case he tries to move forward without getting her drunk first.
Getting into the girls pants is of course the main motivator, but moving forward in the story it always becomes more personal.
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Well.... So you are saying dev tried that sort of system at the first place... BUT failed? Too bad...
OH, and is the rebuild version and the previous version different stories? Or is it just a enhancing from the beginning
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That developer is capable of one thing, start, get to the middle of the game and close it with noodles on his ears, saying that the routes will not lead anywhere and open another copy, and so copy after copy, deceiving people and swindling funds. No Eric NTR content, no normal new content with his girls, no damn dude. Just a loser: I won't be surprised if a new copy of this shit appears in 1-2 years, for the reason I came up with something new.
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I would define "fail" otherwise. The game is just not about punishments and bdsm. Alexey just doesn't seem to be interested in that all too much. The original punishments he basicalyl copy/pasted from the orginal Big Brother. It's a plot device, that works as intended (not "tried" and "failed").
Sometimes you need to let the girls get punished to get influence over them, sometimes you need to protect them, so they are grateful or are in a better mood.
The scene with Alice is more comedy. She tries to get the upper hand on Max, but it ends in Max getting what he wants.
Storywise. The basic scenario is the same (Max moving into a house with his "sisters" and "landlady", where he finds hidden cameras and decides to use them), also most story arcs will be similar (teaching lisa, tricking alice and so on). But already in CH1 we see differences, from additional side characters to dream sequences with Max and the girls, mini games like cracking Alice's password and so on.
Already the old build was different than the original BB, this one derives even more.
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Without a proper challenge and goal during the gameplay, such projects fall apart. Eric is a challenge and that makes BB so discussed. Now imagine, you get rid of him and Max progressing to the point of screwing all the girls. What's next? Exactly, an abandoned project, that is a dead end, no matter how much the dev will try, the master goal is already achieved and the game becomes pointless. In other words, if the dev wants to finalize the game properly, he must keep Eric till the very end, and Eric must be a huge pain in the ass for Max in the process.
The problem is, it's not a problem at all. It's not necessary to tie Eric and BB scenario as main challenge. He may be just Chapter 1 antagonist, but the scenarios itself doesn't necessarily have to end there. For example, you can come up with a sequel that involves Max's father and some big problems from his life (take into account it may be related with house he gifted Ann and childrens). BB's universe not necessarily must be tied with Eric at all or should be ended after Eric's dead/gone. After Nemo56 posts, my guess is Alexey probably think in the same way, there're a lot of ways to make BB great game after or without Eric.
I wonder if someone made a game with Eric as MC, and from his point of view if these same pro-ntr people would be asking to have Max steal the girls from him and have more ntr? Nobody has done that yet, even Pornnoobgod has left the story as from Max's POV and Eric is the main antagonist but we really dont have any insight into him he is just there to "take the girls from Max", which is the same in the OG but we find out he also wants to kill off Ann and steal the house as well.
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But who needs this password jerk with mini games in that game! From the very beginning of the game, the players have already entered with such passwords that they do not want to play. Viser is just not a game.
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It would be good, but not for Oleksiy! This developer has too little imagination to develop and twist this plot so that both fans of the main characters of this game will like it. Alas, this unfortunately will not happen. You can score on this game, its fate is thrown like the previous version. Lisa will die unoccupied, and Max will continue to think about how to make money from surveillance cameras.
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No, he never was. He's a plot device. He never was a proper challenge.
Especially on the friendship/fake frieindship path (often seen as ntr path) he's not even a obstacle, Max has to pass storywise, since the two of them team up.
He is good for a laugh now and then however, I admit them. Selling him as slave in the original BB? Drugging him with laxatives in Another Story? These were good.
He'll be in the game, so all Eric lovers can party. And he'll the plot device that he's designed to be, going after Ann. And his fans will even see some scenes with him and Ann, the others can drug him and later kick him out.
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