Fan Art Big Brother: Fan Art

[WBWB]

Here are two images for comparison. The first uses the game style Alice skin the second uses the more realistic one. There is a lighting change as well because the skins react to light differently.

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I can see the second one has more detail and more contrast in the face, for example the eyebrows and eye shadow are darker. I can see the stubble of her pubes. There's detail in the creases of the joints such as the inside elbow and the knuckles. And the nipples, y'all know how I love me some nipples. What a difference.

The first looks blurry in comparison. It's like the difference between DVD and Blu-ray.

So, yeah, I like the new one.

I'm guessing it's the "SSS" sub-surface scattering translucency that affects how light reflects from it. Exactly how to make changes to that is something I've not explored, but many characters have presets to turn it on or off or to choose low-medium-high translucency. Hopefully you can get it dialed in so it's not so dramatically different from the original but still more realistic.

Can I nominate Lisa for the next one to get this treatment?

 

[celtic1138]

I can see the second one has more detail and more contrast in the face, for example the eyebrows and eye shadow are darker. I can see the stubble of her pubes. There's detail in the creases of the joints such as the inside elbow and the knuckles. And the nipples, y'all know how I love me some nipples. What a difference.

The first looks blurry in comparison. It's like the difference between DVD and Blu-ray.

So, yeah, I like the new one.

I'm guessing it's the "SSS" sub-surface scattering translucency that affects how light reflects from it. Exactly how to make changes to that is something I've not explored, but many characters have presets to turn it on or off or to choose low-medium-high translucency. Hopefully you can get it dialed in so it's not so dramatically different from the original but still more realistic.

Can I nominate Lisa for the next one to get this treatment?

The sss is certainly part of it, but the translucency is different as well and that's also having an effect on how the light reacts to the skin. There are a bunch of different maps and variables. The first skin tends to react to all light mostly in a similar way, whereas the second reacts in a more natural way, so it can become more washed out or reflective or have more of a glow etc. Anyway, here is another example with the lighting not changed at all



I intend to do the other characters as I go, it's a good technical challenge and helps me understand the settings better. I'll try and do a Lisa one next

 

[Epicuren]

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[JSF2]

Why is Alice's hair grey on so much fan art? Rendering issues?

 

[christopher thompson]

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looks more like the changing rooms at the shop than the 3rd movie

 

[Dasati]

@JSF2 often wondered that myself but never commented on it as i know absolutely nothing about rendering heh

 

[celtic1138]

Why is Alice's hair grey on so much fan art? Rendering issues?

The black version of that hair loads that way. The base colour of the hair needs to be changed from white to medium grey in surfaces tab in order to darken it. None of us are experts so not everyone has that figured out, or knows how to do it.

 

[skyphernaut]

The sss is certainly part of it, but the translucency is different as well and that's also having an effect on how the light reacts to the skin. There are a bunch of different maps and variables. The first skin tends to react to all light mostly in a similar way, whereas the second reacts in a more natural way, so it can become more washed out or reflective or have more of a glow etc. Anyway, here is another example with the lighting not changed at all

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I intend to do the other characters as I go, it's a good technical challenge and helps me understand the settings better. I'll try and do a Lisa one next

Both look good, but the second one brings out so much skin details that you can't see clearly on the first. And celtic, if you don't mind, which HDR are you using on these pics? I'm experimenting some things with HDR but none looks this good.

 

[obiwan21]

At min. intel 3Ghz quad core with as much ram the mother board can handle up to 32Gb with at least GTX 1060 at min. (1080 would be great though.) Extra case cooling fans.

You really need to have an nvidia card with at least 4gb of ram. But I would recommend something with a nvidia geforce gtx1060 or better. The more system ram the better... the larger the scene and the more characters you want to use will require higher ram... I'd recommend 16GB+. You also want a multi-core processor... 2ghz or better. Hard drive will have a little effect but it not too big a deal.

So, Black Friday deals are going to start in about a month and I need to upgrade to have that sweet iRay render speed
Was hoping to get some help on what pieces I should replace.

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 Haswell Quad-Core 3.5 GHz
RAM: 16GB DDR3 1333
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB GDDR5

I know the GPU has to be upgraded. Should I aim for a 1080 as mentioned above?Also, will 16GB to 32GB make a huge difference? GPU is PCI 3.0, I can put it in my 2.0 slot and use a new GPU for rendering only.

 

[micmitja]

So, Black Friday deals are going to start in about a month and I need to upgrade to have that sweet iRay render speed
Was hoping to get some help on what pieces I should replace.

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 Haswell Quad-Core 3.5 GHz
RAM: 16GB DDR3 1333
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB GDDR5

I know the GPU has to be upgraded. Should I aim for a 1080 as mentioned above?Also, will 16GB to 32GB make a huge difference? GPU is PCI 3.0, I can put it in my 2.0 slot and use a new GPU for rendering only.

Well graphic for sure as rest goes will leave for experts

Just wanted to inform you that few days ago there was same discussion and was created new thread that you might want to check out.

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[jackolante]

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I think alice's skin is so wrong bro! Compare in game

 

[WBWB]

The black version of that hair loads that way. The base colour of the hair needs to be changed from white to medium grey in surfaces tab in order to darken it. None of us are experts so not everyone has that figured out, or knows how to do it.

Thanks for reminding me to look at that. The base color is a texture file Hair_Color_K01.jpg which is basically hair-like streaks of black with white highlights. Looks like it was an attempt to add a fake glossy lustre to the black hair to make the detail stand out instead of being indistinguishable blackness on top of the head, but it only makes it look like Alice is almost ready to move to Florida and drive real slow to Bingo Night at the VFW. I used Levels in Photoshop to push the white down to 128 and then to 64. I think I'll go with the 64.

 

[Chancer]

Thanks for reminding me to look at that. The base color is a texture file Hair_Color_K01.jpg which is basically hair-like streaks of black with white highlights. Looks like it was an attempt to add a fake glossy lustre to the black hair to make the detail stand out instead of being indistinguishable blackness on top of the head, but it only makes it look like Alice is almost ready to move to Florida and drive real slow to Bingo Night at the VFW. I used Levels in Photoshop to push the white down to 128 and then to 64. I think I'll go with the 64.

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I agree the 64 looks best.

 

[CJ0]

The black version of that hair loads that way. The base colour of the hair needs to be changed from white to medium grey in surfaces tab in order to darken it. None of us are experts so not everyone has that figured out, or knows how to do it.

Thanks for reminding me to look at that. The base color is a texture file Hair_Color_K01.jpg which is basically hair-like streaks of black with white highlights. Looks like it was an attempt to add a fake glossy lustre to the black hair to make the detail stand out instead of being indistinguishable blackness on top of the head, but it only makes it look like Alice is almost ready to move to Florida and drive real slow to Bingo Night at the VFW. I used Levels in Photoshop to push the white down to 128 and then to 64. I think I'll go with the 64.

For example...


All surfaces:
Base color 0,0,0
Glossy color 0.22, 0.22, 0.22
Top coat color 0.046, 0.046, 0.046
Emission color 0,0,0

 

[obiwan21]

Well graphic for sure as rest goes will leave for experts

Just wanted to inform you that few days ago there was same discussion and was created new thread that you might want to check out.

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Thanks Moved over to that thread.

 

[jackolante]

I'm so sorry but when I set up Daz I can not run this 2 parts! Is that 's wrong?

 

[Epicuren]

Christopher, the scene was actually by the pool. However, it wasn't where she normally smoked. I have moved it there, and adjusted the sun.

JSF2, I thought the same about the grey hair. As celtic said, that's how it loads. I was going into the shader to just make it black when I saw his post. I made the white portion gray at 92 92 92.

jackolante, that was the unmod skin. In another scene I thought it looked better, but I'll let you all judge. 1, 2, or 3?

 

[celtic1138]

Christopher, the scene was actually by the pool. However, it wasn't where she normally smoked. I have moved it there, and adjusted the sun.

JSF2, I thought the same about the grey hair. As celtic said, that's how it loads. I was going into the shader to just make it black when I saw his post. I made the white portion gray at 92 92 92.

jackolante, that was the unmod skin. In another scene I thought it looked better, but I'll let you all judge. 1, 2, or 3? View attachment 25686 View attachment 25687 View attachment 25688

Nice work.

The first one just looks dull, that skin always bothered me. The second one looks like she does in the game. I like the look of the third one personally, I think it looks really good but the second one, as I say, is the one that matches the game best.

Max's hair is meant to be black by the way. Also there is an updated version of the outside area with better looking grass in Funfiction's post:

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[WBWB]

Christopher, the scene was actually by the pool. However, it wasn't where she normally smoked. I have moved it there, and adjusted the sun.

JSF2, I thought the same about the grey hair. As celtic said, that's how it loads. I was going into the shader to just make it black when I saw his post. I made the white portion gray at 92 92 92.

jackolante, that was the unmod skin. In another scene I thought it looked better, but I'll let you all judge. 1, 2, or 3? View attachment 25686 View attachment 25687 View attachment 25688

Not sure about the skin but I think the shaping looks off. Isn't the Alice shape recipe 100% "Eliya" for both body and head?

 

[WBWB]

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I'm so sorry but when I set up Daz I can not run this 2 parts! Is that 's wrong?

Don't worry about either one. The first is a tutorial scene, the second is a plugin thing that's useful only if you're doing 3D texture work in Photoshop.