Ignazzio

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I wonder if title will be BB or he'll be more creative. Only Patreon can change Big Brother into Small Landlord
 

ReFLecTIon91

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Actually DS could change the incest problem easily. Max would be an adopted child, then he wouldn't be related by blood nor would it be real incest and of course the family would treat him like a real family member with calling him son or brother. DS would only need to change a few things, that it would be clear that Max isn't related by blood.
 
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Nope still not allowed. He is going to have to go the land lord/lady route for BB to continue. I mean Id honestly might pledge again if he made Max the landlord. Id sit through a long ass grind one more time.
 
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Actually DS could change the incest problem easily. Max would be an adopted child, then he wouldn't be related by blood nor would it be real incest and of course the family would treat him like a real family member with calling him son or brother. DS would only need to change a few things, that it would be clear that Max isn't related by blood.
As it was already said even that is not allowed and considered incest
 

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I wonder if title will be BB or he'll be more creative. Only Patreon can change Big Brother into Small Landlord
At first I took this at face value - but he's only the Big Brother of 1 character, Lisa. After a while it clicked...cameras everywhere just like the reality TV programmes. So on that basis, the name isn't in itself an issue....except, of course, if you are being investigated for incest at which point the argument sort of falls apart.

In my country it's legal to marry 1st cousins, wondering if they would allow both Kira and Ann to be aunties with Alice and Lisa cousins. But also wonder how big a fix it would be.

With the reputed income from this game you would think that Patreon would work with him to get to a solution that's good for everyone as it's a big chunk of % to lose every month.
 

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At first I took this at face value - but he's only the Big Brother of 1 character, Lisa. After a while it clicked...cameras everywhere just like the reality TV programmes. So on that basis, the name isn't in itself an issue....except, of course, if you are being investigated for incest at which point the argument sort of falls apart.

In my country it's legal to marry 1st cousins, wondering if they would allow both Kira and Ann to be aunties with Alice and Lisa cousins. But also wonder how big a fix it would be.

With the reputed income from this game you would think that Patreon would work with him to get to a solution that's good for everyone as it's a big chunk of % to lose every month.
I doubt he can hide behind reality show in a clearly incest game. You could argue about Dating My Daughter being metaphorical and it could make sense if not for a fact that game is clearly incest themed.
Aunties won't work. Different countries different regulations. And incest in any form is terrible for their reputation. Especially right now. DS might be big for our perverted community but it's not like he's so big that Patreon will take some special actions to help him. It's all about marketing and sexually abused USA. Harvey did what he could
 
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I don't understand how Patreon can go ahead and bitch slap their largest sources of income like this... All it would take is for one site to pop up offering everything Patreon has without their censoring and BOOM they just lost 50% of their revenue.
Well, there's Hatreon, but I hear it's surrounded by alt-right bullshit. So take that as you will.

Kickstarter seems to have (or will have) a patreon-like platform where they are "not responsible by their creator's content". Although it still seems to be in closed registration stages.
 

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Sadly the Patreon 'Patre-gedon' has struck this game. For those interested in all that there is another thread with a LOT of discussion on this and I hope someone remembers where it is because I don't. The big problem is that DS did almost NOTHING when all this began MONTHS ago, and now the inspectors have started looking at this game.

We need to switch topics away from the Patreon situation now, or the Moderators will get angry and start telling people to go to the other thread. Yes it's bad, Yes I want the next update, no we can't do anything here.

Just some thoughts.
 

pk2000

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At first I took this at face value - but he's only the Big Brother of 1 character, Lisa. After a while it clicked...cameras everywhere just like the reality TV programmes. So on that basis, the name isn't in itself an issue....except, of course, if you are being investigated for incest at which point the argument sort of falls apart.

In my country it's legal to marry 1st cousins, wondering if they would allow both Kira and Ann to be aunties with Alice and Lisa cousins. But also wonder how big a fix it would be.

With the reputed income from this game you would think that Patreon would work with him to get to a solution that's good for everyone as it's a big chunk of % to lose every month.
Actually is very easy to fix. Just add a few lines of storyline in the beggining.
e.g.
Max lost both his parents when he was little. His grandfather (only living relative) adopted him but did not really want him (a big bastard) and agreed with Ann (Max's mother best/childhood friend) to take care of him. And since Max grow in Ann's family (with her two daughters) he got the habbit of calling her "mom" and her daughters "sisters".

Problem solved :)
 
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Ignazzio

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That would be step-son and that's forbidden. Analyzing it now there is also plenty of non-really-consensual sex as well. Like half of the game is blackmail and that's bad for Patreon as well. They could also be picky about how MC looks as he's clearly underage. In that case BB is done I guess
 

ReFLecTIon91

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As it was already said even that is not allowed and considered incest
I guess you mean this: "If for example the characters call each other sister and brother or mother and son, we will review the content as incest." I didn't see that. But then the adopted child version would work if DS also changes the incest related words. Instead of Mother he always uses Ann and instead of Sister Alice and Lisa etc. Or he could make Max a neighbor and just change these incest related words. I guess that would be less difficult than making an "exchange student route" or a "landlord/lady route".
 

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I guess you mean this: "If for example the characters call each other sister and brother or mother and son, we will review the content as incest." I didn't see that. But then the adopted child version would work if DS also changes the incest related words. Instead of Mother he always uses Ann and instead of Sister Alice and Lisa etc. Or he could make Max a neighbor and just change these incest related words. I guess that would be less difficult than making an "exchange student route" or a "landlord/lady route".
DS is a whopping 13 months into development. There's A LOT of dialogue to review if he wants to continue operating on the Patreon Waffen-SS Division's website. I can see release getting pushed back by a month at the very least.
 

pk2000

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DS is a whopping 13 months into development. There's A LOT of dialogue to review if he wants to continue operating on the Patreon Waffen-SS Division's website. I can see release getting pushed back by a month at the very least.
Actually he could fix all in a few hours with batch files and search/replace commands.
eg.
son with Max#
brother with Max##
nephew with Max###
So could be easily replaced/restored afterwords "#" or another symbol could be hidden/ignored when displaying the text in the unmodified patreon version.
The only difficulty would be in Max's dialog entries when he is referring to his sister. That could take 1-2 days to review.
 

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I have tried both the torrent and MEGA downloads of the base game+crack and each time I hit New Game the screen just displays blank. Any fixes for this? I use Windows 7 and I am trying to play it in 1280x800 resolution.
 

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I have tried both the torrent and MEGA downloads of the base game+crack and each time I hit New Game the screen just displays blank. Any fixes for this? I use Windows 7 and I am trying to play it in 1280x800 resolution.
You need to clean out your internet cache but remember if you do it you lose all passwords.

Otherwise try one of the other upload sites.
 

Corambis

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DS knew this day was coming, and as I said before, that's why he's making the sudden push to give the BB fans what they want with actual sex with Ann, while also pushing Glamour to the forefront. As people have said, any incest, even step or someone just using the terms "brother", "sister" or whatever isn't going to fly. This also isn't limited to m/f incest, so as someone said, they'd just have to be totally unrelated people living together. There's also the issue of dubious consent in a lot of cases (blackmail, people being asleep, drunk, drugged, etc.), and the fact that Max and Olivia look like they could possibly be underage, which in some people's eyes is enough to damn the game. Even if we're just talking about rewriting dialog, I just don't see DS going to the trouble of doing it. For one thing, he's not really a fan of his own game. Secondly, he really wants to do Glamour. And last of all, there's no guarantee that after he does all of the work, Patreon won't still say "nope" at some point. He could move to another site, but he likely won't make the same money he could on Patreon.
 

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I don't understand how Patreon can go ahead and bitch slap their largest sources of income like this... All it would take is for one site to pop up offering everything Patreon has without their censoring and BOOM they just lost 50% of their revenue.
Hatreon seems to be doing well
 
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