Corambis

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Well, that's kind of the point of Eric... To get in Max's way and provide the (ludicrous) Bad End of Military School for a selfish pervert who's at least 18, was kicked out of school and doesn't have to go back.

Unfortunately, due to the ham-fisted implementation of Eric and how he affects the household, anything approaching a plot went out the window with him. Patrons were really pissed off.
There was definitely foundations with a lot of potential (including some minor "plot" advancement), but the money dictated it go out the window and focus exclusively on fucking all the women, to the point that even Kate changed from being a lesbian, to bi-sexual with predominantly lesbian feelings... except for Max's dick, of course.
I really hated Eric, and not just in the sense of him being a rival. I hated him also for how his arrival suddenly made Ann and the rest of the family stupid and completely disloyal to Max. And on a completely meta-level, I hated that the character existed at all. It's not that I'm completely opposed to male rivals in games. But I need the option where I can either avoid them completely or at least keep them away from my potential love interests if I do everything right. That wasn't factored at all into this game. With Eric, it was all about minimizing damage by making choices that were oftentimes counter-intuitive. Except I don't think DS imagined that anyone would want to minimize Eric at all. I think he was meant to be the "mentor" that let you have his sloppy seconds, and you were supposed to be best friends with him. And as you mentioned, there's the ridiculous part about military school, but there's also Ann completely disbelieving her son to an unbelievable level.

And Eric just kind of suddenly dropped into the game an update or two in before almost immediately taking over. He would have worked a lot better as Ann's already existing boyfriend prior to the move who suddenly developed an interest in Max's sisters as well.
 
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I really hated Eric, and not just in the sense of him being a rival. I hated him also for how his arrival suddenly made Ann and the rest of the family stupid and completely disloyal to Max. And on a completely meta-level, I hated that the character existed at all. It's not that I'm completely opposed to male rivals in games. But I need the option where I can either avoid them completely or at least keep them away from my potential love interests if I do everything right. That wasn't factored at all into this game. With Eric, it was all about minimizing damage by making choices that were oftentimes counter-intuitive. Except I don't think DS imagined that anyone would want to minimize Eric at all. I think he was meant to be the "mentor" that let you have his sloppy seconds, and you were supposed to be best friends with him. And as you mentioned, there's the ridiculous part about military school, but there's also Ann completely disbelieving her son to an unbelievable level.
I just "head cannoned" that Big Brother takes place in the same universe as The Company, and Eric got his hands on some of the level 1 mind-control serum and dosed Ann at work.
Makes more sense than most of the other stuff in the game, and given the things that happen in The Company, it makes for interesting possibilities for Eric's fate if you take the route of Kate's mother's offer.

It's either that, or Ann's an escaped mental patient who thinks that Harley Quinn from Suicide Squad is a great character and role model...
(They just should have done a live action version of Assault on Arkham. Much better Suicide Squad movie, and the characters aren't joke versions of themselves.)

And Eric just kind of suddenly dropped into the game an update or two in before almost immediately taking over. He would have worked a lot better as Ann's already existing boyfriend prior to the move who suddenly developed an interest in Max's sisters as well.
Bang on the money here.
The only thing I'd add is some sort of background to Eric, where he knew Ann's husband previously in some capacity, more than likely connected to the shady underworld stuff Eric was on the run from. It would explain his interest in the house and knowing about the camera and accessing other cams.
 

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How can I join Alice in the bathroom in the morning?
And, I think I've already asked this, but I can't find the reply in the thread, sometimes when I open the shop the game tell me I don't have money. Did someone had the same problem? How can I fix it?
 

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How can I improve the relationship with Lisa? Now I can have s3x with Olivia and fing3r lisa but is there something more I can do with lisa? We talked about doing this without Olivia and she'll let me know when she's ready, I think I'm stuck in this part
Hey, man, you're on a porn pirate forum, talking about a porn game. It's ok to say "sex" and "finger". :p
 
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Does someone knows why I lose all my money when I open the online shop? (I'm using the money mod)
 

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how to have sex with liza.. she promised him her virginity so how can i get there ?
 

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how to have sex with liza.. she promised him her virginity so how can i get there ?
The game was abandoned before that could happen. You might check out some of the mods for the game, because I think some of them give you that option. There is a special thread just for the mods. There's also a standalone game that is basically an extended scene where you do get to have sex with Lisa. I believe the name is "Lisa's Special Day", so you might try searching for that.
 
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Now this I remember very well. Alice tells Max when asked, that nothing happened.
This can be taken two ways...
1: Nothing happened.
2: Something did happen, but Alice refuses to acknowledge it just like with Max in the Bathroom before Kira's arrival
If you were able to get rid of Eric before sacrificing Alice or chose to let Kira remain as the sacrifice, (1) will hold true

If you chose to sacrifice Alice for Eric to stop fucking Kira, (2) will hold true. There's an image were Alice gets out of her room after her "session" with Eric having the look of great shame in her face (I felt sorry for her). Alice is no stranger to sex and had felt close to Eric from the start. For her to wear a shamed face after getting out of the room, you'd assume or wonder what kind of abuses she got from Eric.

In my opinion choosing to sacrifice Alice to save Kira is stupid. Kira, with her profession, a sex veteran, and her willingness to be sacrificed to protect the family, is the most logical choice. I understand the part of satisfying audience kinks though hence the choice.
 

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Can't dark silver use that new hosting site? Same as patreon but really no terms of service
 

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In my opinion choosing to sacrifice Alice to save Kira is stupid. Kira, with her profession, a sex veteran, and her willingness to be sacrificed to protect the family, is the most logical choice. I understand the part of satisfying audience kinks though hence the choice.
Yeah it's stupid, but it still fits with how "brain-hurtingly" stupid most of the things that happen whilst Eric's in the game are, especially the characters.
Choosing to not sacrifice Alice and not get a blowjob from Kira when she's riding her sybian at night ties into the influence system regarding Eric's "control" over the women in the household. That's especially stupid since Kira's only doing it because she's being blackmailed by Eric, and to protect Max as much herself.
Logically Eric shouldn't have any sort of influence mechanic over Kira, but he still does and players have to counter it, because reasons.

That kind of thing (the stupidity of characters in general) is one reason why I don't understand some fans who say BB is a great game.
It's a "bad game" that was pretty much only held up by the quality of its renders of the women.

this game is complete or not?
It's incomplete and currently still abandoned.
 

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Yeah it's stupid, but it still fits with how "brain-hurtingly" stupid most of the things that happen whilst Eric's in the game are, especially the characters.
Choosing to not sacrifice Alice and not get a blowjob from Kira when she's riding her sybian at night ties into the influence system regarding Eric's "control" over the women in the household. That's especially stupid since Kira's only doing it because she's being blackmailed by Eric, and to protect Max as much herself.
Logically Eric shouldn't have any sort of influence mechanic over Kira, but he still does and players have to counter it, because reasons.

That kind of thing (the stupidity of characters in general) is one reason why I don't understand some fans who say BB is a great game.
It's a "bad game" that was pretty much only held up by the quality of its renders of the women.
It's definitely a bad game with awesome renders. There was also so much vagueness with the writing that a lot of us mentally filled in the gaps and saw depth where there was none. The female characters alternately endeared themselves to us and drove us crazy with their changes of personality and stupid behavior.

I have zero doubt in my mind that Eric had his way with Alice, just as he was on his way to taking Lisa's virginity. The only real question on that is why DS didn't devote tons of renders to that for the people into that kind of thing? It left things uncertain enough to piss off people on either side of the Eric debate.
 

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It's definitely a bad game with awesome renders. There was also so much vagueness with the writing that a lot of us mentally filled in the gaps and saw depth where there was none. The female characters alternately endeared themselves to us and drove us crazy with their changes of personality and stupid behavior.

I have zero doubt in my mind that Eric had his way with Alice, just as he was on his way to taking Lisa's virginity. The only real question on that is why DS didn't devote tons of renders to that for the people into that kind of thing? It left things uncertain enough to piss off people on either side of the Eric debate.
The renders really are top notch. I'm guessing that the original plot of the game was for Eric to have his way with all the women and Max is supposed to either join in the fun or slowly take them back making them undeniably dependent on him in the end of the story. This kind of plot is quite dark and probably too sadistic for the majority (an assumption) of BB's audience hence the "Eric hate brigade".
 
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The renders really are top notch. I'm guessing that the original plot of the game was for Eric to have his way with all the women and Max is supposed to either join in the fun or slowly take them back making them undeniably dependent on him in the end of the story. This kind of plot is quite dark and probably too sadistic for the majority (an assumption) of BB's audience hence the "Eric hate brigade".
I thought it would have been rather like a fight for influence between Eric and the MC, both of you trying to seduce the characters in the house and kind of confronting each other.

At most it could have gone multiple ways, the peace way in which you obtain money from him but you don't fight his gradual increase of influence (with the option to declare war), the war way in which you actively clash with him trying to seduce the girls and perhaps making deals with him related to the characters (like giving him Alice to be able to fuck the mother for example).
 

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The renders really are top notch. I'm guessing that the original plot of the game was for Eric to have his way with all the women and Max is supposed to either join in the fun or slowly take them back making them undeniably dependent on him in the end of the story. This kind of plot is quite dark and probably too sadistic for the majority (an assumption) of BB's audience hence the "Eric hate brigade".
I thought it would have been rather like a fight for influence between Eric and the MC, both of you trying to seduce the characters in the house and kind of confronting each other.

At most it could have gone multiple ways, the peace way in which you obtain money from him but you don't fight his gradual increase of influence (with the option to declare war), the war way in which you actively clash with him trying to seduce the girls and perhaps making deals with him related to the characters (like giving him Alice to be able to fuck the mother for example).
It felt to me like it was supposed to be the main character getting his kicks by spying on Eric having sex with his family, or cutting deals with him to be allowed some controlled access to them. The game was billed as being about voyeurism, and DS always seemed to have trouble with the idea of people having incest without a third-party making it happen somehow. I'm not sure that getting rid of Eric was ever supposed to be part of the game either, or if so, not until every woman in the family walked with a permanent limp from being fucked by him so often.
 
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