Unity Abandoned Big Brother [v0.13.0.007] [Dark Silver]

[Snugglepuff]

I agree with you that the walkthroughs do help a bit ( i’ve used two of them myself) but unfortunately due to the way the game was designed ( differing ‘missions’ with the various characters) it’s hard to get an overall sense of how the various sections of the story connect together- i’ll take a look at the walkthroughs that you have recommended though bud - thanks for your help

I’ve played DmD too bud , the developers walkthrough for that game is excellent ( although admittedly a simpler game to navigate . Fair play to the lads who posted the walkthroughs though- you can see by the sheer volume of text how much work they put into them.thanks once again for your help

I was specifically talking about

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Posts 2 and 3 by a1fox3.
The information in those two posts (the ones with all those spoiler boxes) have all the needed info. In great detail.

 

[PHANTOM44]

I was specifically talking about

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Posts 2 and 3 by a1fox3.
The information in those two posts (the ones with all those spoiler boxes) have all the needed info. In great detail.

Thanks once again for your help - i’ll try using his walkthrough and see if it will let me advance further in the game ( just by giving it a quick glance so far I can tell that his walkthrough seems to be better than the others I have used - in that it’s easier to follow)

 

[Shiny Stick]

Game is okay. Long and drawn out. Are there any video renders?

 

[Zoroark]

Thanks once again for your help - i’ll try using his walkthrough and see if it will let me advance further in the game ( just by giving it a quick glance so far I can tell that his walkthrough seems to be better than the others I have used - in that it’s easier to follow)

Thanks for the info, I'm downloading it.

 

[Snugglepuff]

Game is okay. Long and drawn out. Are there any video renders?

None.
No animations, only still images.

 

[infomercial]

...abandoned...

it wasn't even abandoned, it was a proper scam. A terrible example for the future of western porn games.

 

[Pseudoquoxrevv]

Hey just updated Diamond mod for 0.13 and added some options to fast forward text !

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[PHANTOM44]

None.
No animations, only still images.

Are there any other similar games that you would recommend bud

 

[PHANTOM44]

it wasn't even abandoned, it was a proper scam. A terrible example for the future of western porn games.

Why was it a scam bud ( I thought he abandoned it because of new patreon policy ) not trying to be argumentative - just get wary when someone mentions scam

 

[Agent HK47]

Why was it a scam bud ( I thought he abandoned it because of new patreon policy ) not trying to be argumentative - just get wary when someone mentions scam

Dark Silver didn't abandon the game due to Patreon, but rather due to having lost interest in the game. DS started out well enough, but quickly began to try and please everybody, listening to his fans idea of how his game should be. He clearly had big plans for Eric, but felt forced to remove him due to pressure from his fans. With every update, you could feel his fading interest, both in his responses to his fans, as well as the game itself.
When Patreon changed their policies, every big game handled it just fine. Dreams of Desire, Dating my Daughter, Man of the House, and many more, all found solutions to the patreon problems and their games are still alive and well. Dark Silver could have easily adjusted his game like the others, but BB had evolved into something he never intended and he was pretty clearly lacking passion for the new adaptation.
He took the first and best excuse he could find and abandoned ship. Now he is working on his new game, which he is clearly way more passionate about, although his former fanbase are revolting against it to no end.

Just goes to show that listening to feedback is okay, as long as you stay true to your original vision.

 

[DawnCry]

Dark Silver didn't abandon the game due to Patreon, but rather due to having lost interest in the game. DS started out well enough, but quickly began to try and please everybody, listening to his fans idea of how his game should be. He clearly had big plans for Eric, but felt forced to remove him due to pressure from his fans. With every update, you could feel his fading interest, both in his responses to his fans, as well as the game itself.
When Patreon changed their policies, every big game handled it just fine. Dreams of Desire, Dating my Daughter, Man of the House, and many more, all found solutions to the patreon problems and their games are still alive and well. Dark Silver could have easily adjusted his game like the others, but BB had evolved into something he never intended and he was pretty clearly lacking passion for the new adaptation.
He took the first and best excuse he could find and abandoned ship. Now he is working on his new game, which he is clearly way more passionate about, although his former fanbase are revolting against it to no end.

Just goes to show that listening to feedback is okay, as long as you stay true to your original vision.

Personally I think that after Eric was forced out the game became another "harem wish fullfilment", extremely generic.

I would have liked to compete against Eric for the females in the house, and well even better if DS didn't just make him a bastard conman just so that you could kick him easily, rather more about fighting his influence and increasing yours until that satisfying moment in which you win and kick him away.

I truly enjoy fighting against strong enemies and beating them gives me quite a lot of satisfaction, the bad thing of adult games is that most of them are easy or grindy, perhaps even both?. You want to conquer a girl? just answer this, this and this, risks? a big warning "do not choose this option because bad things happen".

Exactly what is the fun when everything is optional and the game always asks for your input in... everything.

 

[PHANTOM44]

Dark Silver didn't abandon the game due to Patreon, but rather due to having lost interest in the game. DS started out well enough, but quickly began to try and please everybody, listening to his fans idea of how his game should be. He clearly had big plans for Eric, but felt forced to remove him due to pressure from his fans. With every update, you could feel his fading interest, both in his responses to his fans, as well as the game itself.
When Patreon changed their policies, every big game handled it just fine. Dreams of Desire, Dating my Daughter, Man of the House, and many more, all found solutions to the patreon problems and their games are still alive and well. Dark Silver could have easily adjusted his game like the others, but BB had evolved into something he never intended and he was pretty clearly lacking passion for the new adaptation.
He took the first and best excuse he could find and abandoned ship. Now he is working on his new game, which he is clearly way more passionate about, although his former fanbase are revolting against it to no end.

Just goes to show that listening to feedback is okay, as long as you stay true to your original vision.

Thanks for the information bud - I think that seems to happen quite a lot with independent game creators - they just try to please “all of the people all of the time”. Not sure that having gamer polls are a great way to advance a storyline - I would imagine it would grind away at the creative nature of the maker so much so that they jump ship... I wonder if dark silver has gamer polls for his new game too? It’s a pity that he lost heart with the B.B. game - i’m not sure how far through the game I am - just hoping it doesn’t end too abruptly ( I’m playing the final version of the game - stuck at the moment though) thanks once again for your help

 

[DawnCry]

Thanks for the information bud - I think that seems to happen quite a lot with independent game creators - they just try to please “all of the people all of the time”. Not sure that having gamer polls are a great way to advance a storyline - I would imagine it would grind away at the creative nature of the maker so much so that they jump ship... I wonder if dark silver has gamer polls for his new game too? It’s a pity that he lost heart with the B.B. game - i’m not sure how far through the game I am - just hoping it doesn’t end too abruptly ( I’m playing the final version of the game - stuck at the moment though) thanks once again for your help

In every game you have to say clearly two things, fetishes that aren't optional (but perhaps avoidable under certain conditions) and fetishes that are banned (those that won't happen in the game).

When you do not generate the upper and lower limit is when you have the problem. Everything optional? may god help us, what a boring thing, everything forced? why the hell am I playing when it doesn't matter what I want to do. In life you need a balance and design a system based on that.

The funniest thing that I have found in h games is how english h games treat "submissive content", things as weird as "choosing if the MC gets raped or not", the feeling is just weird, passable if you only focus on the h content to do your things, but a normal game at the very least would ask for a few stats to see if you can escape or not, for example a strength check to see if you can overpower the rapist. That's the part that we don't have in english games.

 

[PHANTOM44]

Personally I think that after Eric was forced out the game became another "harem wish fullfilment", extremely generic.

I would have liked to compete against Eric for the females in the house, and well even better if DS didn't just make him a bastard conman just so that you could kick him easily, rather more about fighting his influence and increasing yours until that satisfying moment in which you win and kick him away.

I truly enjoy fighting against strong enemies and beating them gives me quite a lot of satisfaction, the bad thing of adult games is that most of them are easy or grindy, perhaps even both?. You want to conquer a girl? just answer this, this and this, risks? a big warning "do not choose this option because bad things happen".

Exactly what is the fun when everything is optional and the game always asks for your input in... everything.

I do find this game grinds (very repetitive?) doing same things day after day - story seems to jump around a good bit too - I was told about a good walkthrough yesterday by snugglepuff so hopefully that will help . I agree with you also about the male characters Eric is a bad guy cliche and the main protagonist comes off as being weak/stupid - not exactly the archetypal hero - I think the game tries to do too much - it just needed to be simpler - i’ve played dmd ,dod ,babysitter amongst others - all of which had simpler gameplay ( all or most have a similar structure too ; protagonist- two females one strong , one weak and older matriarchal figure... ) women are far more complex and diverse than that ( Tlero and mortze games are a great in this respect - wish more creators would follow their example) the female characters in B.B. showed real promise - it’ll be a downer if the game ends before I get to see their various characters develop further...cheers bud thanks for your posts

 

[PHANTOM44]

In every game you have to say clearly two things, fetishes that aren't optional (but perhaps avoidable under certain conditions) and fetishes that are banned (those that won't happen in the game).

When you do not generate the upper and lower limit is when you have the problem. Everything optional? may god help us, what a boring thing, everything forced? why the hell am I playing when it doesn't matter what I want to do. In life you need a balance and design a system based on that.

The funniest thing that I have found in h games is how english h games treat "submissive content", things as weird as "choosing if the MC gets raped or not", the feeling is just weird, passable if you only focus on the h content to do your things, but a normal game at the very least would ask for a few stats to see if you can escape or not, for example a strength check to see if you can overpower the rapist. That's the part that we don't have in english games.

Yeah in B.B. male protagonist looks weak - is he really going to dominate/intimidate? he shares a room with his sibling from the get go ( how’s that for standing your ground) - the basic premise for some of these games seems to be very generic - how about sharing an apartment with some other college students / professionals? ( game would introduce different characters as people move in and out..) getting back to B.B. game seems disjointed - you might go days doing the same thing (saying the same thing) only to have one of the other characters do/say something out of the blue to open up another path in the story - it’s like waiting for the planets to align... as i said earlier i’ve been using a walkthrough to help - without a walkthrough it would be like parachuting blindfold into the amazon and having to find your way out.. the whole family thing is very big in these games ( I like the idea of patches that enable choice) - story I find is the most important thing - although disjointed B.B. ‘s central story is great it’s just the rest seems to be unnecessarily complicated ( just my opinion)

 

[infomercial]

Oh what a discussion, unfortunately I was getting into

Why was it a scam bud ( I thought he abandoned it because of new patreon policy ) not trying to be argumentative - just get wary when someone mentions scam

He had a lot of arguments with his patrons, for example he had added NTR content while the majority of his patrons voted against him, he didn't add watching cams function even though it was one of the top requests etc, and at the end he abandoned the game at the first chance. Now, I am all for creative freedom for developers and I despise pateron for their sudden policy changes. However when what you're co-developing the game with your followers and a good amount money is involved, stopping abruptly without a good excuse(health issues, cops etc) is immoral IMO. Just rename the game as Big Step-Brother and add a short, clear ending even without more content instead of letting it stay unfinished, won't you? :closedeyesmile:

 

[Megatron71]

My problem with Eric was that you could do absolutely nothing to stop him from advancinf on the entire family. There seemed to be no way to thwart him, of the things you could do they backfired.
DS could have forked the paths for those that liked to be submissive sissies and watch Eric dominate them and the family and those that wanted to either banish him the way they did or have the MC beat the snot out of him and kick him out. At the rate the story progressed, all the females would have been impreganted by Eric and the MC woulda been jerking in the halls the whole time...
Now my other gripe with the game was the very poor angles of the action during the actual sex scenes, this barely would qualify as an R rated, maybe NC17 at max... did DS not like showing the goods other than the MC's dick?
So really, he blew off the game and his patrons as far as I'm concerned, took the money and ran and as far as I can tell the Glamour story is crawling along at a snails pace...

 

[PHANTOM44]

Oh what a discussion, unfortunately I was getting into

He had a lot of arguments with his patrons, for example he had added NTR content while the majority of his patrons voted against him, he didn't add watching cams function even though it was one of the top requests etc, and at the end he abandoned the game at the first chance. Now, I am all for creative freedom for developers and I despise pateron for their sudden policy changes. However when what you're co-developing the game with your followers and a good amount money is involved, stopping abruptly without a good excuse(health issues, cops etc) is immoral IMO. Just rename the game as Big Step-Brother and add a short, clear ending even without more content instead of letting it stay unfinished, won't you? :closedeyesmile:

Yeah I agree bud - did he refund any money to his patrons? There are developers out there that only get paid on patreon per major upload ( not monthly like most) that seems more reasonable to me.As has already been stated in this thread ( I think) other developers found creative solutions to the policy changes that were implemented I would imagine that he could have done the same too.Maybe he just got fed up with the game ( if that was the case he should have returned patrons money) It is disappointing when developers abandon projects before completion not just because of the monetary loss ( players are essentially paying for a substandard product - with no recourse for compensation - say it took 6 months to develop that could be $60 dollars gone for half a game.. ) but also they have usually committed substantial amount of time actually playing the game. I don’t think that would fly in other industries - going to a movie an having it end abruptly 45 mins in... there would be a riot..I have been playing his game B.B. it’s quite frustrating ( even following the walkthrough suggested by Snugglepuff - he was right it’s a good walkthrough ) it’s the game that’s the problem ( been doing exactly the same thing for six game weeks - nothing.. ) as I said in an earlier post it’s like waiting for the planes to align.. thanks for the heads up bud

 

[PHANTOM44]

My problem with Eric was that you could do absolutely nothing to stop him from advancinf on the entire family. There seemed to be no way to thwart him, of the things you could do they backfired.
DS could have forked the paths for those that liked to be submissive sissies and watch Eric dominate them and the family and those that wanted to either banish him the way they did or have the MC beat the snot out of him and kick him out. At the rate the story progressed, all the females would have been impreganted by Eric and the MC woulda been jerking in the halls the whole time...
Now my other gripe with the game was the very poor angles of the action during the actual sex scenes, this barely would qualify as an R rated, maybe NC17 at max... did DS not like showing the goods other than the MC's dick?
So really, he blew off the game and his patrons as far as I'm concerned, took the money and ran and as far as I can tell the Glamour story is crawling along at a snails pace...

Yes in that respect the graphics/renders weren’t very good . As has been mentioned before there was no way the main protagonist could have physically dealt with the Eric character ( maybe DS could have had him lift weights or do martial arts instead of yoga - don’t know of too many young lads who opt for yoga ... ) there have been games where simplistic fight scenes were incorporated into this type of game before - instead main protagonist seemed to prefer shopping ( hands up all those who like to go shopping with their wives/girlfriends - and moreover who’s going to actually be stupid enough to say that they dislike the items of clothing she has picked? - sorry ladies but that’s a thing)

 

[Corambis]

Yes in that respect the graphics/renders weren’t very good . As has been mentioned before there was no way the main protagonist could have physically dealt with the Eric character ( maybe DS could have had him lift weights or do martial arts instead of yoga - don’t know of too many young lads who opt for yoga ... ) there have been games where simplistic fight scenes were incorporated into this type of game before - instead main protagonist seemed to prefer shopping ( hands up all those who like to go shopping with their wives/girlfriends - and moreover who’s going to actually be stupid enough to say that they dislike the items of clothing she has picked? - sorry ladies but that’s a thing)

More explicitness that didn't involve Eric's or Max's dicks would have been nice. Even sex scenes that better hinted at penetration instead of Max having his dick out, then suddenly with his body pressed against the woman's. Or just sex scenes that lasted longer than a few pictures and almost as little text.

I hated the shopping. The thing was, patrons begged for it for the longest time, or to go to the club with Alice. Somehow they didn't see that shopping would just be a complete diversion from any real progress in the game. I think that just about an entire update was wasted on DS creating the shopping trip. The dates with Lisa and the coffee shop stuff were likewise a bust. The doctor's office and Olivia's mom were better in my opinion through the appearance of the respective characters, but still a detour from the focus of the game.