Hollow

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basically people who hated NTR was people who secretly love it
if i will fuck someone from my family will it be incest ( yes it will be no matter in game or in RL )
if i rape my aunt will it be rape ( yes same story)
people who think its NTR in BB thinks it NTR when family member fuck stranger ( so in this logic they think they live in NTR word in real life)

but yes game now have so many flaws witch people could see but all they see is NTR
 
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Bahadır

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Alice is most definitely not a lesbian. If any, Kate is an exception in a way that she's the only woman that Alice is going to be with, and that is because how Kate saved Alice's life in the past, not even because Alice is attracted to women.


The sex is not consensual because Eric definitely gave her alcohol. Just like how Alice gave BJ to Max after clubbing.
Having some kind of sex with men when she is drunk and unconscious doesn't prove that she is bisexsual I think. She can do many different things at that time because she doesn't know what she is doing. While she is in herself I don't see her having any sex with me except Kate asks her. She did it because her lover wants. Also if you sacrifice her, Eric has sex with her by making her drunk too. Again it doesn't prove that she sex with Eric willingly.
 

Skylaroo

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Having some kind of sex with men when she is drunk and unconscious doesn't prove that she is bisexsual I think. She can do many different things at that time because she doesn't know what she is doing. While she is in herself I don't see her having any sex with me except Kate asks her. She did it because her lover wants. Also if you sacrifice her, Eric has sex with her by making her drunk too. Again it doesn't prove that she sex with Eric willingly.
Did you even read what you quoted? I literally said that Alice/Eric sex was not consensual because she was drunk, and you repeated that as if to argue against my point.

Someone's sexuality is based on their gender preference. There was zero hint in the game whatsoever about Alice preferring women than men. Kate specifically told Max that Alice followed what Kate said because Kate saved Alice's life in the past and felt like she owed her and became obedient to her. That is not sexual preference.

On the other hand, there are multiple hints in the game about Alice preferring men:
+ FJ massage where she said she'd love to continue further had it been her boyfriend instead of Max who massaged her
+ The story about the past when Kate saved her was when she was drinking with the boys
+ Kate herself saying Alice is not a lesbian
+ Alice saying she actually enjoyed Max's dick when asked about her honest opinion
+ The books she read are heterosexual romance novels

It's like people play the game and just want the pictures while not reading the story.
 

Elberet

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Well... Complete 0.5. At last some progressive on main roots. AT LAST Eric fuck off. Waiting for 0.6

And... Do you have problems with hacker-root, where you blackmail Eric? Because after it it change NOTHING in my game. May be i have some bug? Well... I don't chose this root, so it nevermind. In whis game i want to play role of King - not some shitting kid, who just jeck off on other sex.
 

Ramirez™

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Alice a lesbian? Yeah, right.
The times she is affected by alcohol just lowers her inhibitions towards Max.
If trying anything further then FJ/BJ she cuts you off. Thats not quite unconcious. She is full aware of what she is doing.
 

Carlo S

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I just wasted my time reading your post. I think looking at porn is a better use of your time, Carlo.
If you read everything I've posted so far, you'll understand, for me this could be the best game of the year, but Eric does not make sense in this game, and that's what I and many people think.
DS threw away his golden chance to make this game what a lot of people are waiting for so far, a perfect game
 

summerjo

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Wow. The mom is F-ed up.
She can't let MC watch her and Eric, but has no problem with Eric doing her youngest daughter with her in the room?
 

toolkitxx

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Wow. The mom is F-ed up.
She can't let MC watch her and Eric, but has no problem with Eric doing her youngest daughter with her in the room?
She doesnt know about any of it - so why would she be f-up? As far as it concerns her the only distinctive 'sexual' situation happening around the house is naked punishment and the massages she gets from her son. She has no idea abou Liza's training etc.

If you refer to Liza's training with Erik - nothing is described or depicted to justify any concerns . Could all be talk and no action
 

Hollow

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She doesnt know about any of it - so why would she be f-up? As far as it concerns her the only distinctive 'sexual' situation happening around the house is naked punishment and the massages she gets from her son. She has no idea abou Liza's training etc
have u atleast read whats in game ??
mom is training with eric if u dont train lisa
 

stan

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Wow. The mom is F-ed up.
She can't let MC watch her and Eric, but has no problem with Eric doing her youngest daughter with her in the room?
all the characters are fucked up in this game there's no debating that. There are still people defending either Eric or Max. Nope, both are fucked up and from the real world perspective Eric is a sexual predator who knows exactly how submissive and messed up Ann is and he is taking full advantage of this.
There might not be anything wrong with a Dom/sub couple, but in this case there totally is as she is really oblivious to any move he makes to her family, and she willingly accepts some stuff she shouldn't like Liza's teaching or Max's peeking. She does it because Eric ordered her to, it all stems from him, though i'm not minimizing her responsibility in this. But this makes him the lowest kind of people, because that's the kind of people who would abandon her after enough toying around, leaving her and her family devastated.
She is totally wrong in the way she defends him even with proof of his wrongdoings, she is the one who brought him there and put her own family in danger. No doubt Ann is fucked up bad i totally agree with you on that.

But then of course he is not doing Liza in Ann's room, with Ann spectating to boot. That would be too much for both Ann and Liza. Even if this is a game, that's too unbelievable. Also, you can ask Liza about what she does with Eric and while she doesn't tell anything and even says she is forbidden to tell Max, you can tell it's not anything hardcore though of course it progressively would become more deviant. The point is that Eric probably is setting himself up so that he can both make Ann believe that he is really teaching Liza for her sake and nothing more so that she doesn't get too suspicious if he spends time with Liza, while at the same time getting Liza accustomed to his presence and becoming increasingly bold with her. I still can't figure out how people like the Eric character and defend his personality traits... He is a good archnemesis and is interesting in the gameplay mechanics, but that's about it.

Then again even Liza who looks like the most normal person around, is actually even more perverted than Max she just has a better time keeping that under wraps especially since she is a bit innocent. They are all messed up the only normal person in this game is the deliveryman. Everything is totally wrong in this game, and that can be exciting i'm the first one to agree to this, as long as it stays in the virtual world.
 

Quazar87

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Overall, a good update. Here's hoping that the "control Eric" move is expanded on in future editions. At the moment, it just seems to do what was possible in the last version. He leaves everyone else alone, but he's still with the Mom.

In the future, I'd like to see Max take over more and more. Max becomes the one giving out discipline, and starts to discipline the Mom as well. The day to day scenes should expand when Max has high authority to let him walk-in on everyone like he can with Mom's early morning shower now.
 

Tease Me

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Lets step a bit to v3 Max had two allies maybe even more, Anne showed interest in him as a man from the beginning, later Kira showed interest in him and to a lesser degree Alice mentioned her hate was just a cover for her feelings. Lisa though not an ally was not an enemy. Some think because Eric's influence that Anne hated her son but if you look at her actions using the Bath with her and the early morning wood conversations.. Anne was very interested in her son In the EMHO conversation he was asked to be carful not to show his woody to Lisa. If Max asked Why? She said because it was then she stammers out because it is so big. Max says So you like it. She starts to say yes then changes the subject. After the bath she also hems and haws when talking about his penis. In v4 she is even more open to Max Saying she can't wait for his massage. During these sessions Eric's influence dives and Mom mood soars. Now we have The massage and hand job in v5. Anne says that she is helping Max but she starts touching her breast, her mood really takes a leap also. In the shower it is Anne who makes the advances all while saying she shouldn't. If you are lucky enough to have Max punished in private you see Anne asking, if she should stroke him faster and if he is enjoying it. She does these things all while saying that it is for Max but her Smiles say she is very happy. Think about it.. in the mood indicator Mom is happiest when she is with Max. This is all with Eric in the house. Kick Eric and Anne is sad for a bit but then gives Max a compliment and she forgets about Eric.
 

dugoth

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Game is bugged like hell. I gave eric his wallet - he will leave my sis and aunt alone. Aaaand now my mentor is reset ... kisses - fine but now lisa wants book - which she already recieved days ago. And books is nowhere to buy it. Looks like i wait for fix-patch or 0.6.
Yeah, I mentioned this bug in the guide thread. The Dev implemented additional means in the patch notes to unlock Liza training if you blackmail Eric. Looking over the dialogue it appears that the Dev didn't run a check to confirm if you had already unlocked/progresses on training Liza, since there are now more than 1 method to do so, so if you've already done it one way and then do it again the second way it rolls back the progress and locks out progression as -all- of the associated variables aren't reset, such as buying the book, or training kissing, or whatever. It should be a simple enough fix for the Dev to add a check on those variables to see if training Lisa has already been unlocked before trying to unlock it again and breaking the system once he is aware of the problem.
 

Tease Me

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I am not sure but couldn't the Caviet by Kate's mom be a hint of what looms ahead. Just getting rid of Eric does not mean all is roses for Max. Also I recall Dark saying that Eric was not permanent. Don't get all teary about him getting Maxed out, it does not take the fun out of the game it can actually add to it. this is v5 the game is not over or even close to being dead. It is finally what it was suppose to be a SEX GAME. and not a WAR GAME. I think Olivia and Kate's Mom have something planning, not sure but why add the innuendos only to not play them.
 
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