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Nothing wrong with number 3. It is a kink that is real. Dreaming of Dana, iirc, does it very well with the older couple. Just be happy it isn't Max wanting to watch her have sex with other guys =p
Haven´t played Dreaming of Dana. It just seems odd that Lisa, at first, wanted a romantic relationship with flowers, go on dates, making her laugh and stop doing BDSM stuff with Max BUT then the tables turned and she goes: "Oh well, let´s fuck together like we always do, i even let you fuck other girls". Don´t really mind that attitude, there can come some good contetn out of this. It just doesn´t fit story- and characterlike.
That was a total off put for a lot of players here.
 

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Haven´t played Dreaming of Dana. It just seems odd that Lisa, at first, wanted a romantic relationship with flowers, go on dates, making her laugh and stop doing BDSM stuff with Max BUT then the tables turned and she goes: "Oh well, let´s fuck together like we always do, i even let you fuck other girls". Don´t really mind that attitude, there can come some good contetn out of this. It just doesn´t fit story- and characterlike.
That was a total off put for a lot of players here.
Lisa was always a dense, unstable bitch. I mean, she uses that "virgin little sister" facade but is rather quick in agreeing to go commando in school (that's just one of the examples).
 

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Haven´t played Dreaming of Dana. It just seems odd that Lisa, at first, wanted a romantic relationship with flowers, go on dates, making her laugh and stop doing BDSM stuff with Max BUT then the tables turned and she goes: "Oh well, let´s fuck together like we always do, i even let you fuck other girls". Don´t really mind that attitude, there can come some good contetn out of this. It just doesn´t fit story- and characterlike.
That was a total off put for a lot of players here.
It was cost-effective move from DS development-wise. Like many stuff he does in game actually are cost-effective to develop if you really think about it. For example unlike many developers he creates narrative around existing assets. Many assets used in game, including house itself, already existed previously in various DAZ 3D collections. While most authors as it seems write their stories first and struggle with creating art to support it afterwords. The same cost-effective logic applies here. "Romance" was only intended to introduce very cost-effective outdoor option. It was never meant to radically alter existing sandbox, scrape existing Lisa assets thus forcing DS to create knew art to support narrative about Max-Lisa "romance". Also don't forget DS clearly isn't into incest stuff. It's just business for him due to popular demand in the West. I already about that though.
 

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Lisa was always a dense, unstable bitch. I mean, she uses that "virgin little sister" facade but is rather quick in agreeing to go commando in school (that's just one of the examples).
Don't let @a1fox3 catch you bad mouthing Lisa. I'd say your wrong about "dense, unstable bitch" absolutely nothing about her characterisation in any of the paths supports that claim. To me she starts the game as sweet and innocent but over the course of events, as shes exposed to more and more erotic stuff. She discovers her dirty side and slowly starts to embrace it.
 
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Also don't forget DS clearly isn't into incest stuff.
He clearly isn't, and that shows on his writing.

Not that I blame him though, while I like the incest theme, I can understand why many people find it... Unsettling.
 

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Don't let @a1fox3 catch you bad mouthing Lisa. I'd say your wrong about "dense, unstable bitch" absolutely nothing about her characterisation in any of the paths supports that claim. To me she starts the game as sweet and innocent but over the course of events, as shes exposed to more and more erotic stuff. She discovers her dirty side and slowly starts to embrace it.
Did I sound offensive? It wasn't my intention...

I can understand what you're saying and I admit you may be right on that, it won't change my opinion on her being a unstable character though.

Edit: I may have used the wrong word actually (perks of being not being a native english speaker)...

The word that would best describe Lisa's character is "fickle".
 
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She discovers her dirty side and slowly starts to embrace it.
I wouldn't call it a slow start if you look at Olivia's path. It's like a second meeting when she blows Alex and 4-5 when she's having some sort of a threesome with her brother cuz she ditched Alex for being not as romantic as Max.
I suspect that initially her main paths were soppose to be connected with Alex and E. while Max's path would be really slow. Removing those 2 made it neceserily to rush things with Max.
 

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Lisa was always a dense, unstable bitch. I mean, she uses that "virgin little sister" facade but is rather quick in agreeing to go commando in school (that's just one of the examples).
Lisa is a little nuts, like every other member of the family and a lot of her behaviour comes from the fact that she doesn´t have experience with sex and relationships. But the most irritating aspect of hers is that "getting off when feeling helpless"- trait seems rather strange to me.

It was cost-effective move from DS development-wise. Like many stuff he does in game actually are cost-effective to develop if you really think about it. For example unlike many developers he creates narrative around existing assets. Many assets used in game, including house itself, already existed previously in various DAZ 3D collections. While most authors as it seems write their stories first and struggle with creating art to support it afterwords. The same cost-effective logic applies here. "Romance" was only intended to introduce very cost-effective outdoor option. It was never meant to radically alter existing sandbox, scrape existing Lisa assets thus forcing DS to create knew art to support narrative about Max-Lisa "romance". Also don't forget DS clearly isn't into incest stuff. It's just business for him due to popular demand in the West. I already about that though.
i agree. Knowing how much he earns per month, the dev could easily afford the 3D sets. He just had that romance-idea, introduced it, but realised how much work he had to put in this, thus switching the tables and went down the BDSM road again. It´s much easier for DS to write and create envirnments around that setting.
At this point, i don´t know where this game is heading. The only thing that interests me now, is the way how Ann will give in to her son ... and Kira joining them, finally.

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@Ignazzio Well remember whilst its technically the 4-5th meeting its actually like a month or more of in game time. Personally I choose to think that Lisa and Olivia would at least talk about it when they at school together and she may of had a corrupting influence on Lisa. As to slowly well i guess it depends on your definition, she doesn't go from 0-100 in a matter of days, but i can see how some would find her moving from innocent to dirty minded pretty quickly.

@Lykanz I would agree with you that Lisa can be rather fickle, as illustrated by the 180 from "lets be romantic" to "you can fuck other girls if i can watch".

Edit: @baraka The "getting off when feeling helpless" trait Lisa has doesn't seem that strange to me tbh. Theres no rule that says people can't have a weird kink which seems opposed to the rest of their personality. Admittedly at first its a bit odd, but once you get over that i see no issue.
 

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Lisa is a little nuts, like every other member of the family and a lot of her behaviour comes from the fact that she doesn´t have experience with sex and relationships. But the most irritating aspect of hers is that "getting off when feeling helpless"- trait seems rather strange to me.
Lets talk about this family:

Mom: Submissive who tries to pose as a conservative mother but, in reality, is a whore.
Elder Sister: Delinquent and lazy who, as much as she tries to deny, is addicted to her brother's dick.
Younger Sister: Fickle personality who just wants to experiment new things but still be a "pure and innocent" girl.
Aunt: Manipulative nymphomaniac who uses sex to persuade her nephew (as if it was even necessary). I'll not even use the fact that she drugged her sister so she would accept letting her kids fuck each other in a movie.
Eric: Jerk cunt (not even part of the family, but there you go)

And finaly we have the protagonist, that deceiving, traitorous, blackmailing piece of shit who just wants to put his dick inside everything that moves.

PS: Don't get me wrong, I like this game, I'm just poking fun at it.
 

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Lets talk about this family:

Mom: Submissive who tries to pose as a conservative mother but, in reality, is a whore.
Elder Sister: Delinquent and lazy who, as much as she tries to deny, is addicted to her brother's dick.
Younger Sister: Fickle personality who just wants to experiment new things but still be a "pure and innocent" girl.
Aunt: Manipulative nymphomaniac who uses sex to persuade her nephew (as if it was even necessary). I'll not even use the fact that she drugged her sister so she would accept letting her kids fuck each other in a movie.
Eric: Jerk cunt (not even part of the family, but there you go)

And finaly we have the protagonist, that deceiving, traitorous, blackmailing piece of shit who just wants to put his dick inside everything that moves.

PS: Don't get me wrong, I like this game, I'm just poking fun at it.
@DarkSilver made max like that it's not max fault to be honest.
 
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I sometimes wonder if the viewers of the hidden cam's dotted round the house think "this must be some kind of x-rated reality show, no way they're really family".
 

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I wouldn't call it a slow start if you look at Olivia's path. It's like a second meeting when she blows Alex and 4-5 when she's having some sort of a threesome with her brother cuz she ditched Alex for being not as romantic as Max.
I suspect that initially her main paths were soppose to be connected with Alex and E. while Max's path would be really slow. Removing those 2 made it neceserily to rush things with Max.
You should not compare GF path for Lisa because each one is a separate game style and should be played as if they are 3 different games.
 
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I sometimes wonder if the viewers of the hidden cam's dotted round the house think "this must be some kind of x-rated reality show, no way they're really family".
It is even stranger that no one recognized them yet. Yeah, sure, there's that thing about "blocking people who live nearby"... Of course... Because no one ever recorded a live stream and uploaded it to an adult website... Like, ever...
 

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This.

Thinking Max is "romantic" shows how dense she is.
Just because you don't see it in your game there are a lot of us that do see Max as "romantic" and would love to see romance brought into this game in full not this bullshit that came around.
All the way through this game with Lisa in the 2 Lisa GF paths seems to me that Lisa and Max would be romantic together all the way up to that first date, then the shit hit the fan for me and I really do not like how it is going.
If DS screws up the romance and not bring it back for Max and Lisa I will drop my support for the game.
 

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Just because you don't see it in your game there are a lot of us that do see Max as "romantic" and would love to see romance brought into this game in full not this bullshit that came around.
All the way through this game with Lisa in the 2 Lisa GF paths seems to me that Lisa and Max would be romantic together all the way up to that first date, then the shit hit the fan for me and I really do not like how it is going.
If DS screws up the romance and not bring it back for Max and Lisa I will drop my support for the game.
And the creature has been summoned. :p;)
 
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