the relation should be warm and max should be doing yoga twice a week at least
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Its one level higher , friends(4). She is a secret girlfriend( Lisa should fight path). No yoga.
I think MC should have started with a normal relationship while having incest feeling but not acting on them. Eric should have been the catalyst for MC changing and trying to be an Alpha. The way it is now it isnt really ntr or incest because max isnt in a relationship with any of them he's just salty and jealous...Hi, I'm new here and by the way if that were to happen, getting a gf outside of the family (Olivia's case) that would be like giving up in my opinion. I mean the game is advertised as incest, and if that case was the only way to establish a normal relationship without an ntr possibility, it would be hilarious and like a punch in the face of the patronsBut I could go with it at this point in time.
P.S: I'm still surprised that after this release there are still people pledging for this game, I mean I think DS gained about 50 patrons in two to three days after release even with all this "build-up" and ntr on the foreground :/
Also does yoga actually get you buff? why doesnt MC just hit the local gym?
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First post here, hence i'd like to thank all the cracks, mod creaters and forum mods who made this release possible. Great work
Now my 2 cents (0.4 and game overall):
The good things of this game are the story/setting, the protagonist-antagonist relationship and the CG. The CG are superb and it's the only game with an more or less realistic approach. No magic rings, hypnosis and whatnot. More realism, leads to more tension and tension is hot (if you get rewarded). Look at "Living with Temptation" (LOP Gold), which is imo one of the best games ever made in this category. Simply because the scenarios could happen irl.
Now the bad/semi-bad things:
NTR: I tend to say that NTR is semi-bad in this case. I hate NTR, but you'll only have NTR scenes, if you chose the bad route. Otherwhise there're only 2 NTR scenes, which are unavoidable and which you can get rid of. I don't count all the mother scenes as NTR.
BDSM: Very bad imo. Imagine Aunt Sex scene without BDSM clothes, but instead in some sexy lingerie. Same goes for Alice/Kate scenes. They'd be way hotter.
Grind: Also very bad. It just annoying. PERIOD.
Besides that I'd like to see continuations of some scenes. For example the Alice Footjob scene or Lisa Masturbation scene and lets say, more "voluntary action" (Alice after clubbing or calling you Max on cam are the best moments imo in terms of "voluntary action").
But maybe it's too early for that.
But the biggest reason of the disappointment of many ppl is the money-content ratio i think.
You expect more of someone, who's making +20k a month. Nothing fancy or so, just more content. That's a topic per se though.
Now my 2 cents (0.4 and game overall):
The good things of this game are the story/setting, the protagonist-antagonist relationship and the CG. The CG are superb and it's the only game with an more or less realistic approach. No magic rings, hypnosis and whatnot. More realism, leads to more tension and tension is hot (if you get rewarded). Look at "Living with Temptation" (LOP Gold), which is imo one of the best games ever made in this category. Simply because the scenarios could happen irl.
Now the bad/semi-bad things:
NTR: I tend to say that NTR is semi-bad in this case. I hate NTR, but you'll only have NTR scenes, if you chose the bad route. Otherwhise there're only 2 NTR scenes, which are unavoidable and which you can get rid of. I don't count all the mother scenes as NTR.
BDSM: Very bad imo. Imagine Aunt Sex scene without BDSM clothes, but instead in some sexy lingerie. Same goes for Alice/Kate scenes. They'd be way hotter.
Grind: Also very bad. It just annoying. PERIOD.
Besides that I'd like to see continuations of some scenes. For example the Alice Footjob scene or Lisa Masturbation scene and lets say, more "voluntary action" (Alice after clubbing or calling you Max on cam are the best moments imo in terms of "voluntary action").
But maybe it's too early for that.
But the biggest reason of the disappointment of many ppl is the money-content ratio i think.
You expect more of someone, who's making +20k a month. Nothing fancy or so, just more content. That's a topic per se though.
- May 7, 2017
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For something to be considered Netorare, the standard is to have a established relationship, but in reality (as for the genre) it only requires an emotional aspiration between the MC and the object of desire/affection or even idolization (can be a mix of these three types of endearment as well), say a crush for example, it can even be applied to family relationships (mother-son, father-daughter, brother-sister) in which for example the mother is in no way in a relationship with the son, only in a familiar relationship, but then she is taken away (forced, consensual or everything in between) by a thug (it can be anyone:M/F), pulling strings of abandonment and jealousy in the MC... so yeah this game can be considered Netorare, even if you were to have planned the situation to happen, like putting your loved one to have sex with someone else, and if then he/she is taken away, that's also considered Netorare by definition. Netori on the other hand is the opposite, you are the one stealing the loved one(s) from other(s), just so you know Ghost Faced Spaced Man
And both sub-genres, Netorare and Netori are usually confused, so be careful, besides that they are classified under NTR as a whole.
P.S: I have to add, the established or non-established relationships can be worse or better than the relationships coming out of NTR, so it is a bit maddening when you stick this genre into something, but we can agree that what Eric is doing, is nothing more than self and sexual gratification and doesn't really care for the family, he is there for the sex only, so his relationships only have a negative connotation.
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- Apr 19, 2017
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It is NTR:
It's NTR the moment he tagged his game Incest. Mom+ Eric relationship can make sense but does Eric's relationship with others make sense? . At least there should be a chance to stop his actions before they take place and not to suppress further progress when the action has already happened.
Max is bound to have desire and sexual attraction towards his family as it is incest.At the beginning Eric himself declared he will fck Max's family. There is no way to avoid it.Eric will get mom and aunt ,Max can't stop it because that's how the plot has been written. Eric will either fuck Alice if Max let him do it or he will continue giving her gifts[unavoidable,but Max can stop it later]. Max is enslaved to clean his shit or blackmail him to at-least use toilet next time. Max has no goal to achieve except to lower Eric's influence . Will Max decide to get back his sisters and aunt ? if so, he sacrifices his own mother and there is no way to get rid of Eric in feature.If Max peruse to to know the truth abt Eric , Eric succeeds in his goal( fucking mom and aunt, fcking Alice/ giving naked massage). The whole family is dominated by Eric and on top of that Alice is dominated by Kate. No wonder Lisa will be under the influence of Alex in next update(just a guess).
It is BDSM: all sex scenes involve bondage.
There should be ways(let it be only one) to get rid of him .But to achieve this, the path shouldn't contain sacrificing another member or Eric blackmailing someone for sex.
It's NTR the moment he tagged his game Incest. Mom+ Eric relationship can make sense but does Eric's relationship with others make sense? . At least there should be a chance to stop his actions before they take place and not to suppress further progress when the action has already happened.
Max is bound to have desire and sexual attraction towards his family as it is incest.At the beginning Eric himself declared he will fck Max's family. There is no way to avoid it.Eric will get mom and aunt ,Max can't stop it because that's how the plot has been written. Eric will either fuck Alice if Max let him do it or he will continue giving her gifts[unavoidable,but Max can stop it later]. Max is enslaved to clean his shit or blackmail him to at-least use toilet next time. Max has no goal to achieve except to lower Eric's influence . Will Max decide to get back his sisters and aunt ? if so, he sacrifices his own mother and there is no way to get rid of Eric in feature.If Max peruse to to know the truth abt Eric , Eric succeeds in his goal( fucking mom and aunt, fcking Alice/ giving naked massage). The whole family is dominated by Eric and on top of that Alice is dominated by Kate. No wonder Lisa will be under the influence of Alex in next update(just a guess).
It is BDSM: all sex scenes involve bondage.
There should be ways(let it be only one) to get rid of him .But to achieve this, the path shouldn't contain sacrificing another member or Eric blackmailing someone for sex.
- May 8, 2017
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I can't seem to figure out how to properly get this mod working. Copy/Paste the managed folder and overwrote the files. Not sure what to do with the DATA folder or the files within. Tried pasting them in some of the various folders, but I never get a cheat menu on laptop.
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I'm such an idiot. Totally worked. Thank you for the clarification.
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Would it be okay to copy/paste opinions from the patreon to discuss some points? I mean, it's a wall of text what I want to paste here.
Why not, this thread is nothing but walls of text saying the same anyway.
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Well here it goes, you can easily find the comment if you so wish to in patreon, but I'm not going to place the name of who wrote it here.
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Now, as for what is expressed in there I'm not going to comment much or criticize the suggestions, I was just pondering, are these individuals, the ones who express pro-NTR content with Eric or whoever, the ones who compose the majority of patreons for Dark Silver? Anyone knows, and if any do, can anyone consider commenting here, if they have pledged to DS, who are in the top tier of pledges ($40)? Do you know if they are anonymous guys who don't express opinions or people that are in favour of Eric content, I just want insight on the direction of the content, and to know if it is solely DS's responsibility or if there was input from the patrons.
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Now, as for what is expressed in there I'm not going to comment much or criticize the suggestions, I was just pondering, are these individuals, the ones who express pro-NTR content with Eric or whoever, the ones who compose the majority of patreons for Dark Silver? Anyone knows, and if any do, can anyone consider commenting here, if they have pledged to DS, who are in the top tier of pledges ($40)? Do you know if they are anonymous guys who don't express opinions or people that are in favour of Eric content, I just want insight on the direction of the content, and to know if it is solely DS's responsibility or if there was input from the patrons.
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I read through that, and that is good suggestions for NTR. However, I am not into that stuff. Quite franky loathe such content. And would not want that in the game. Could be something to put into another game, a game that I know I won't play.
Big Brother is much more then just cockfights. But yeah, it seems that DS is trying to cater to the NTR crowd and at the same time the incest crowd.One on Patreon mentioned that atm there are more scenes showing male genetalia, then the female. Trying to remember I can only seem to recollect 2 scenes showing the female kind. Kira sex scene and, mom's ero massage. While the other gender is shown in many more. So to end it, I would not like that kind of fetish more then there already is. Since I am kinda invested in this now, being a patreon and all. Time will tell, but if the NTR get too much space forward, then I guess I'm out. We have to see what DS have planned for the next version.
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I don't support him on Patreon but I think this is one of the best 3D porn games... yeah! I hate Eric and NTR, but we are in the early versions of the game... maybe I should wait for the final version when I can go to war with Eric from the beginning and avoid mostly NTR, let's understand that this isn't a game only about incest, for some people the real protagonist is Eric...
The problem for many peoples including me as a patron of DS is this game advertise incest as the main theme (Incest story of your life) at the main page of his patron said main character is Max not Eric plus FETISHES, PLANNED SEXUAL CONTENT section have no NTR content in it. Right now, the incest content is very minimum and a lot of borderline NTR in the game. I have no problem with NTR if the game advertise as such played a lot of Alicesoft games and in those games they make competitors much more believable and engaging you fight for your desire women not like Eric that just bam fuck your aunt.
With the poor illogical writing (eg. Alice shouldn't accept Eric's gift anymore if Max can provide her what she need), Weak main character Max is so pathetic and weak he have to run to Kira to solve his problems most of the time all he do is reacting not preventing or seducing, and the grind is so unreal I'm thinking I'm playing WoW. 0.5 will be the version that I will consider to keep my pledge or not if it still be the same as 0.4 no way I'm going to continue my pledge better to spend elsewhere (currently really like Dreams of Desire, Dual Family, and Mother seduction)