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aattss

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"Shoot / break not the real one but the clones."
Bruh i can't get past first stage cuz he's oneshotting me. And he doesn't give a damn about Break when i'm trying to interrupt his bullshit.
The hell i suppose to do?!
From what I remember, it's not that he's immune to break when charging the oneshot. It's that the attack he does before the oneshot stuns you so you can't break the oneshot, and the stun attack is immune to break. So you need to do something to stop him from stunning you, and then you can use the break on the oneshot or something like that.
 

Pornbjorn

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From what I remember, it's not that he's immune to break when charging the oneshot. It's that the attack he does before the oneshot stuns you so you can't break the oneshot, and the stun attack is immune to break. So you need to do something to stop him from stunning you, and then you can use the break on the oneshot or something like that.
Yeah, before his oneshot attack he cast debuff that will set your agility to 1 so you won't get a turn to use Break on him. It can be dodged though, so it's not a problem.

Anyway, i did a bit of search and turns out that few other people here and on other forum have the same issue with Breaking on Old King fight. It's a rare bug that makes him immune to Break/Heavy Break/Gun Break, making him impossible to beat. I didn't found any fix for it, so i guess Old King will remain unbeatable for me.
 

Facha1234

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just finished ending G and i could finally go to winterbell but i cant open the door in to get in Crimean Nursing graveyard some ppl mentioned i need to talk with mabel? (not sure) where do i find her ?
Edit: also is there a up to date WT thats detalied , have all girls in it,covenants and dlcs after i finished endings till G and checked replay room i noticed i miss shit ton of scenes heck there are even girls i never heard their names in game or in some WTs so im quite suprised
You can find her at Chaos Dungeon (go there through Dream Library when progress <= 1)
 

Phenir

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Sure, i saved just before the fight.
Difficulty 0, my first walkthrough.
Well right off I noticed you don't have run like dodo on but that doesn't matter for this. Are you buffing your luck? I tried a lot of things like weapon element, insanity, his buffs, etc. After stalling the fight for a long time just using omnibuff, phalanx, and guarding and dodging appropriately, I broke him everytime (about 4 or 5 attempts in the same fight), even his mirrors. I tried again this time only buffing my defense and mdefense with items and using phalanx and couldn't break him. You could also upgrade the mock turtle's ladle, it gives +50% luck at +5, same as stacking two luck buffs in case you don't want to spend two turns on omnibuff.
In other words, the fight is literally luck based.
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Pornbjorn

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Well right off I noticed you don't have run like dodo on but that doesn't matter for this. Are you buffing your luck? I tried a lot of things like weapon element, insanity, his buffs, etc. After stalling the fight for a long time just using omnibuff, phalanx, and guarding and dodging appropriately, I broke him everytime (about 4 or 5 attempts in the same fight), even his mirrors. I tried again this time only buffing my defense and mdefense with items and using phalanx and couldn't break him. You could also upgrade the mock turtle's ladle, it gives +50% luck at +5, same as stacking two luck buffs in case you don't want to spend two turns on omnibuff.
In other words, the fight is literally luck based.
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Buffing luck is worked, i was able to Break him consistently! I didn't even consider it, because someone tell here that using Break on vulnerable target have 10 million percent success rate. So even if your Luck stat is really low, with such multiplier you should be able to break anything.
But i guess it is wrong. Or maybe Old King works different, idk.
Good thing you was able to figure that out, cause i wouldn't get it my self. Thanks man.
 

Phenir

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Yeah, before this I also assumed break would just always work as long as they were charging.
 

dd777

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Yeah, before this I also assumed break would just always work as long as they were charging.
The standard formula for debuffs in VXA is
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where luk_effect_rate is [1.0 + (user.luk - luk) * 0.001, 0.0].max.

If your luck is 1000 below the target, every single debuff (including Break) will fail. The Old King's Luck stat is 3996 (999 base * 4, the Diff 9+ multiplier for Luck), so if you have less than 2997 luck, you'll always be incapable of Breaking the Reflections.

(As a side note, Unis has a base of 8,100 Luck (32400 @ Diff 9), so if you have less than that, don't expect to inflict Fear, even with her x10 weakness multiplier)
 

Phenir

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Thanks for the detailed explanation of luck affecting debuff application but the point was that I thought break was an exception. It's not though and, going forward, whenever someone claims the fight is bugged, I can tell them to get more luck (and now I also know exactly how much they need, thanks). Assuming break does have a huge multiplier to its success rate like claimed before, this explains why for most of the game, break is guaranteed, since you're very unlikely to have over 1k less luck than any enemy you fight.
BTW, I know difficulty setting doesn't affect the chaos dungeon. Are you also implying that depth 9 applies the same multiplier as diff 9? It would make sense though since the save being used has 2551 luck.
 

MaskTheSaito

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Does anyone know how to enter the hollow state and summon a dream spirit? and how much importance of them? to ease battle only?
since the walkthrough didn't cover that
 

Facha1234

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Does anyone know how to enter the hollow state and summon a dream spirit? and how much importance of them? to ease battle only?
since the walkthrough didn't cover that
You enter Hollow state when you die. While in that status, Nightmare spirits won't spawn, but you won't be able to summon Dream spirits as well (red book before a fog). To cancel Hollow state, you must use Alice scent. Also, Dream Library notes cover that topic.
For each book you return to the library you get a consumable item that increases you level (I don't remember it's name). Return them all and Node will offer you a gift (an item, a ring, souls or a special gift).
 
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Hi people from f95 zone, in the final boss in the dlc 3, who are the characters that you can summon to aid you? any hint to get them? (sorry if i have bad english :()
 

Azt1234

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Florence, Gerda, and Carnacki. Already made several posts about how to get them so search for them.
Is there anything you can do with their books if you failed to their questline tho? Like, I've Nightingale and Gerda's books, looks like belongs to Dream Library but i didn't see place for them there.
 

Absolute Zero

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I have a question regarding scripting/screen resolution for Blacksouls2

I have an older version of Blacksouls2 which I believe has Fullscreen++ (or a script similar to it) incorporated into it, allowing me to change the screen's resolution via F5 & F6. My newer an updated version of Blacksouls2 does not have this feature however. I know next to nothing about scripting so I was wonder if anyone here could help me out in implementing the Resolution feature onto my newer BS version?
 
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