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Well, NTR involves different things. It's not bad he wrote netori instead of NTR because they're different stuff even if they share the premise of the partner getting fucked.

Some people like netori, some prefer netorare, depends on what gets you going. Now, which one do you prefer? Do you prefer to get cucked/see someone getting cucked from their perspective or do you prefer cucking someone else? Also it depends whether or not the one getting cucked knows about it/is into it or is ignorant of the fact.

Personally I enjoy stories where the guy getting cucked doesn't know about it, you know, like the classic of "Hot unsatisfied MILF feels lonely cause the middle-age husband works all day and doesn't have sex with her anymore but she gets a young bastard to give it to her unbeknownst to her husband" type of thing.
I actually don't mind Netori... but that isn't a "kink" of mine per se. I don't get off on the idea that I'm cucking another guy somewhere; I couldn't care less about his guts or about how he feels when I do it. I get off on the fact that I (The MC) am having sex with a girl, and that she and I (especially in the case of incest) are doing something naughty TOGETHER. Key word being together.

The major difference between NTR and Netori is obviously the MC's involvement (or lack there of) in the sex. To put it as clear as I possibly can, I enjoy doing the fucking with MY girls, not standing by (feeling heartbroken and betrayed), watching them get fucked by some cock-sucking asshole. Whether or not the MC is "aware" of the cheating going on doesn't change the fact that: A. I'm getting cucked and B. I despise getting cucked... It's literally an example of the saying, "What you don't know won't hurt you", which is not only untrue, but extremely unethical. For example, if I rape a girl in her sleep and she never finds out about it, am I any less evil than if I had raped her while she was conscious? I hope to God all of you say no. (Of course that was an extreme analogy, but it still applies... My (The MC's) ignorance of the cheating doesn't mean I'm going like it any more than if I (The MC) was aware of it).

What you brought up with perspective was really interesting though. However those seem more like porn film scenarios rather than games where you play as a character and are experiencing the situations first hand (as the MC). The big difference between the 2 being that I'm at risk of losing (or already lost) something in 1 of them. With that said... I don't like losing, I don't like being betrayed, I don't like feeling heartbroken, and I certainly don't like getting cucked (which is all 3 of those things combined into One Repulsive Fetish). Yeah, that's what it should be called: ORF :ROFLMAO::poop:.

What I'm really sick of though is Beta males forcing ORF onto every game they come across, and then when I refute that, I end up getting ridiculed for not being an apologist to submissive cuck behavior. I have never once gone to an NTR-based game thread and demanded that they remove all of the NTR from that game (because not only would that be silly, but if I did, I'D still be the one getting shit on for it). I'm not sorry for liking loyal waifus, and I never will be. Call me romantic or call me crazy, but Martha's vagina is mine o_O. AAALLL MIIIINNNEE!!! :devilish:
 

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....but Martha's vagina is mine o_O. AAALLL MIIIINNNEE!!! :devilish:
Well... if we get technical here. Martha's puss puss is for ALL OF US [Insert communist music meme here]. So you are getting cucked every time someone in the world plays the game and gets it on with Martha.

In a serious note: Tastes are subjective. For each one of us our sexual preferences are way better than the ones for the next guy. I'm not saying you have to like what that guy likes, you can even hate it (I know I hate lots of kinks). Just saying you shouldn't be insulting others based on personal preferences.

When I made the "incest and/or beasty" joke, I tried to make you understand that for other peoples, if a guy likes incest then that means he actually wants to fuck his mother, and if he likes beasty then he wants to fuck with animals. It doesn't matter what you like, someone somewhere will think you are fucked up.

Also, if we go back to the technical perspective... infidelity might be morally and ethically wrong... but at least is not illegal in most countries, like incest and beasty are. If you want to find something bad to talk about other's people's tastes, you will always find something. But the true is that: PEOPLE TEND TO LIKE DIFFERENT SHIT... And that's ok.

Is not about being "apologetic" as you said... it's about being a decent human being. The best ting to do when you don't like something is just ignore it and move on. Let people enjoy their own shit.


PS: I'm not saying I will, but if I do add some other kink like NTR, it will always be optional. Same as with beasty. So don't worry about it.
 

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Well... if we get technical here. Martha's puss puss is for ALL OF US [Insert communist music meme here]. So you are getting cucked every time someone in the world plays the game and gets it on with Martha.

In a serious note: Tastes are subjective. For each one of us our sexual preferences are way better than the ones for the next guy. I'm not saying you have to like what that guy likes, you can even hate it (I know I hate lots of kinks). Just saying you shouldn't be insulting others based on personal preferences.

When I made the "incest and/or beasty" joke, I tried to make you understand that for other peoples, if a guy likes incest then that means he actually wants to fuck his mother, and if he likes beasty then he wants to fuck with animals. It doesn't matter what you like, someone somewhere will think you are fucked up.

Also, if we go back to the technical perspective... infidelity might be morally and ethically wrong... but at least is not illegal in most countries, like incest and beasty are. If you want to find something bad to talk about other's people's tastes, you will always find something. But the true is that: PEOPLE TEND TO LIKE DIFFERENT SHIT... And that's ok.

Is not about being "apologetic" as you said... it's about being a decent human being. The best ting to do when you don't like something is just ignore it and move on. Let people enjoy their own shit.


PS: I'm not saying I will, but if I do add some other kink like NTR, it will always be optional. Same as with beasty. So don't worry about it.
idk i really like your game but i really don't want to fuck my family
 

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Don't think we do? Unless it's been discussed in the Discord server which I've neglected for months now haha however I'm thinking that it's gonna take a while for it to be finished and not because of the update timeframes (4-6 months in between), but overall.

Take this with a truckload full of salt tho as I'm not involved in anything regarding the game's design or developtment so I know as much as you do but if I'm taking a guess, probably 7 big updates, not including reworks, just updates that keep the plot going forward and implementing mechanics that have been placeholders for a while.
Did you see what Dr. Bones said that if they can translate the game
 

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The perspective in the case of the NTR helps a lot, a short example of the same story.

1) Husband's POV: He works every day of the week. He ignores his wife because he doesn't feel the need to be with her. He loves her, but he likes to watch football on TV more, go to the bar with friends ...

2) POV of the woman: She loves her husband, she works too. She feels ignored ... Her husband touches her less and less and when he does, he does not look for the enjoyment of her. Her blood nephew (already incestuous) comes home more and more often. It makes her laugh a lot and fills the house with life. But the woman realizes that her nephew is "maturing" and sees her with different eyes. He seems like a very handsome boy to her, and it is a temptation to have her at home for so long.

3) Young nephew's point of view: He has been masturbating for a long time, but in the last year he has become sloppy. Stalking his own aunt seems tempting to him. She seems to enjoy her company a lot, and takes advantage of going to her house to see her in casual clothes, sometimes she is lucky enough to see her come out of the bathroom with just a towel. She avoids doing anything indecent with him, but still he hugs her, seeks to touch her ...


The summary of the story, and its strong point, is that the woman knows that it is wrong. Triple wrong: He is his nephew, he has not reached the age of majority, and on top of that it would be infidelity. The woman plays dumb when he touches her or hugs her, although she does her best to prevent the situation from getting worse. But it is too tempting, and her body is not made of stone. When her nephew tells her to bathe together, she says no, but when he invites her to see a movie ... She can't refuse that. And then he gropes her tits, sucks them off and kisses her. You shouldn't do it, but it's too kinky and exciting. The nephew fucks his aunt wildly while watching a doctor bones movie on sexflix in the background.


Conclusion: How immoral! What a cuckold! How can you enjoy that wicked story?

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Did you see what Dr. Bones said that if they can translate the game
Yeah, would be a good project, not gonna lie. Just wondering how hard/time consuming it would be, that would be key. I wouldn't mind giving it a shot but there's no guarantees I'll really do it tho :BootyTime:
 
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I don't know if someone find it, but the state events are not tied to a specific number of days, they happens not on 25th day only! I played Vera only and on 25th day I get her state event done. After that I played Mia to full content and next was Martha and Lucile. How was a big surprise when after majority of their content was unlocked, I get their state event done too. But it happened much, much later than on day 25. :D
Day 25? Where did you get that info from? haha the states aren't tied to a specific number of days. they happen after both the MC and the girl(s) reaches 70 points and all the previous scenes have been done. For example, if you mod the stats with an editor, you can unlock the State of one of them in about 1 week or so or if you're daring, toggle it on from the very beginning :^v

That last part is besides the point but yeah, it's not exclusive to day 25 or any other number of day.
 
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Those ppl arguing about NTR, me a simple man just looking for some eta on the update, bcuz i miss martha bU.Ubs. I guess the only update i will be "disapointed", will be if we get a full Mia update after 6 months, oh boy that will be a hard pass, then i will need to whait more 6 months, a year to seen new stuff.
 

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Those ppl arguing about NTR, me a simple man just looking for some eta on the update, bcuz i miss martha bU.Ubs. I guess the only update i will be "disapointed", will be if we get a full Mia update after 6 months, oh boy that will be a hard pass, then i will need to whait more 6 months, a year to seen new stuff.
Sir, this is F95Zone, you can say "boobs" like the upstanding netizen you are, no need for self censorship.

That being said, boy, do I have bad news for you with the update...
 

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Wait is this game still not finished? How much content does it have compared to the walkthrough?
The walkthrough has been outdated for almost 2 years, so take a guess. If you're curious on specifics, check the "Changelogs" part in the 1st post of the thread.
 

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Those ppl arguing about NTR, me a simple man just looking for some eta on the update, bcuz i miss martha bU.Ubs. I guess the only update i will be "disapointed", will be if we get a full Mia update after 6 months, oh boy that will be a hard pass, then i will need to whait more 6 months, a year to seen new stuff.
Tough luck :poop: , some of us have been waiting for Mia content for long time and finaly getting it at somepoint when the next patch comes out :love:
 
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Tough luck :poop: , some of us have been waiting for Mia content for long time and finaly getting it at somepoint when the next patch comes out :love:
And the next one look like it was truly focus on Mia consider she got the least content out of all the characters so far, so even more exciting
Of course after that we would still need some of that juicy Martha yoga lesson
 
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And the next one look like it was truly focus on Mia consider she got the least content out of all the characters so far, so even more exciting
Of course after that we would still need some of that juicy Martha yoga lesson
Yeah wouldnt mind it focusing on Mia fully tbh.
 
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