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You need Max Level Soul Passenger and Olivia to have 90+ Lust. Then Invite Donovan while she has lunch in her Flower Shop.
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You do not need to have max SP and Olivia's lust 90+ but it does not hurt. The minimum to get the lunch option is 70 lust and at least lvl 2 SP. I just tried it with Olivia's stats at 70 for influence, love, and lust and lvl 2 SP on a new save with this being the only thing I did outside of getting the required spells and I got the option.
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I've gone ahead and done it this time so you don't need to, but in the future, what you need to do is make a post like this and then report it, or just report the original post of the thread and put the link to the update in the report message. On this forum, the report button isn't just for busting trolls, but also maintenance tasks like game updates. Reporting assures that the mods will see the update and act on it, just making a post does not.
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The possession spell ability to bodyhop completely trips up this game.
Math fun-time O'clock!
X = number of love interests in the game
If the MC never engages in threesomes and never watches NTR then the number of possible pairings in the game is simply X. If X is 2 you need to make sex scenes for 2 pairings, if X is 20 then you need 20 pairings. If you want a dozen scenes per love interest that means you need to animate 12X scenes. For 20 waifus that is 240 scenes that need to be animated.
Now add the possession spell. The formula for this is... (X+1)*X. The +1 comes from the fact that the MC is also a waifu. And that A fucking B != B fucking A.
So if you have 20 waifus that is 420 possible pairings for vanilla 1 on 1 sex. a dozen scenes each and you are looking at 5040 scenes needing to be animated.
Throw in another 20 for each familar to get a nice 5080 figure.
The possession spell changes the number of scenes needed from linear growth to quadratic growth
edit: also forgot to mention. with succubus possession swap and possession levels you simply triple the figure. so the formula is actually (X+1)*3X + Y.
Where Y is assorted scenes like 3somes, NTR, familiars, etc.
Math fun-time O'clock!
X = number of love interests in the game
If the MC never engages in threesomes and never watches NTR then the number of possible pairings in the game is simply X. If X is 2 you need to make sex scenes for 2 pairings, if X is 20 then you need 20 pairings. If you want a dozen scenes per love interest that means you need to animate 12X scenes. For 20 waifus that is 240 scenes that need to be animated.
Now add the possession spell. The formula for this is... (X+1)*X. The +1 comes from the fact that the MC is also a waifu. And that A fucking B != B fucking A.
So if you have 20 waifus that is 420 possible pairings for vanilla 1 on 1 sex. a dozen scenes each and you are looking at 5040 scenes needing to be animated.
Throw in another 20 for each familar to get a nice 5080 figure.
The possession spell changes the number of scenes needed from linear growth to quadratic growth
edit: also forgot to mention. with succubus possession swap and possession levels you simply triple the figure. so the formula is actually (X+1)*3X + Y.
Where Y is assorted scenes like 3somes, NTR, familiars, etc.
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I've been making myself laugh in the shower coming up with a "Big O for Porn developers" post
you could write the sequel: "Cumshots, Creampies, and Comibinatorics"
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Honestly, each hop should be an entire standalone game by itself.
With a policy of not working on more than 1 of those spinoff games at a time, then they could make something of it.
Also, I forgot to account for the fact that the succubus itself can be ordered to hop between bodies. As well as ordered to be active or deep in subconsciousness.
So for every waifu you have
> Not possessed
> Subconscious possessed
> Full possession
so... 5040 * 3 = 15120 scenes
+40 familiars
+threesome scenes
+etc
With a policy of not working on more than 1 of those spinoff games at a time, then they could make something of it.
Also, I forgot to account for the fact that the succubus itself can be ordered to hop between bodies. As well as ordered to be active or deep in subconsciousness.
So for every waifu you have
> Not possessed
> Subconscious possessed
> Full possession
so... 5040 * 3 = 15120 scenes
+40 familiars
+threesome scenes
+etc
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Pointless post on page 69 of the very game that got me to join F95 in the first place, Stay classy book of lust you'll always be my BAE. Nice.
Does anyone know where to download update 0.1.0.1a?
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I am happy to see I am not the only one who was able to grasp the mathematical failure happening here.
And your previous post.
I think it is going to be high, but not that high. In terms of sex related stuff at least Kanashiipanda has stated that outside of the sandbox crew (the base three families) not all characters are going to have sex scenes and if they do it will be more specific/specialized. As for the other spells I would suspect that they it try to stick too story and back story for characters not have the interaction combinations we see with the sandbox crew, but Kanashiipanda has not said much on that.
So I agree that there are and will be a high amount of scenes, but I do not think it is going to be as high as your estimates.
Also, new Julia Soul Passenger for next release and likely some work done too Soul Passenger in general (not the current one that looks to be close too dropping).
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Point of clarity. I am not saying that is how many scenes we can expect to have. I am explaining mathematically why this game will never ever be finished. It is an impossible to complete game.
The numbers I gave is how many scenes are needed to finish the game. And the dev does not seem to understand the consequences of their decisions. resulting in combinatorial explosion and thus a game that is impossible to complete.
The fact you must grind with each character before you even find out if there is a scene or a WIP is another huge problem. This game needs a mature gallery to find the scenes that exist, so you can snipe scenes instead of wasting your time exploring the massive WIP signs.
Yeah, to me the biggest issue is that there are so many possible scenes, but not all are implemented. So if I'm playing and I want to possess X individual and seduce Y individual I don't know if I'm going to even be able to do that.
It makes me want to ignore the mechanics and just look at a checklist of existing scenes and work toward those, which undercuts the entire reason of the sandbox in the first place.
I still like the game because hot furry porn, but it's got some pretty fundamental flaws based entirely around body swapping.
It makes me want to ignore the mechanics and just look at a checklist of existing scenes and work toward those, which undercuts the entire reason of the sandbox in the first place.
I still like the game because hot furry porn, but it's got some pretty fundamental flaws based entirely around body swapping.
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Look, all I want is more scenes of Jake being railed by hot guys. Is that so much to ask for?
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Here's a lower bound, then. For each possible ordered pair of characters (A, B):
- A is player-controlled, B is free.
- A is player-controlled, B is under compulsion.
- A is player-controlled, B is succubus-controlled.
- A is player-controlled, B is succubus-delved.
- A is succubus-controlled, B is free.
- A is succubus-delved, B is free.
With 8 characters (Jake Cassandra Olivia Donovan Mia Julia Mel Valerie), that's (8*7)*6 + 8*12 = 432 scenes. That's not insane the way 10k scenes would be, but it's still more than you'd see in most games. And that's without touching Dream Walk or any other side characters or, y'know, the plot.
From what I have seen Kanashiipanda is aware and does understand the large scope of things and for as long as I have been watching I have not seen anything that would indicate otherwise. In addition, is main self appointed tester also goes through a lot of these scenarios/combinations and constantly updates Kanashiipanda about basically anything and everything. It is funny too because this very topic topic came up in the Discord around the same time.
Also, depending on what you consider the game (Just the story or story + optional side stuff) the game can be finished or at least finished in its current state (end of Caroline quest) really quickly though I am thinking you are probably meaning the game in full.
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As far as the gallery (Lumping MrCrazy123 in with this) Kanashiipanda has toyed with the idea but is unsure how it seems and is likely a very low priority. Though I remember this being asked at one point some time ago and Kanashiipanda's response was no with lore being the reason, but I could be not remembering correctly (I remember laughing at a stupid response) so I caution with that statement. I have to check but I think I still have that comment somewhere.
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Again that is already known to Kanashiipanda and like I said in my previous post only the main cast will have this level of combinations/interactions. I think the focus on the unfinished scenes count or the various combinations is important, yes, but is only a symptom. I think the real issue, and I think I even mentioned this is older posts of mine, is that there basically no structure or process to determine which scenes get finished and which do not (I think I have a comment about this, but I have to find it). It seems like Kanashiipanda just spins a wheel and whatever it lands on is what he feels like doing that particular moment.
Now as for the the story and side characters if they are going to be setup to like how Caroline's is then it is going to be more curated on when and how the spells will be used. I would also assume that would also be true or similar for story/plot stuff.
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WIP signs, stick figure animations, and incomplete content are not what I call a finished game.
The game is finish-able though if the dev scales back and restructures such that it is less ambitious.