Ren'Py Abandoned Brazen Sonnet [v3.1] [Tribe]

[Tribe]

Do girls have some decent pubic hair?

Generally? Some girls do... Some don't. Some even argue that it's natural to grow it out.

In this game, the girls will almost always have pubic hair, as is their tradition (zoomers outstanding)... You'd be hard-pressed to find a pube behind all the censorship, though, but they're all there.

 

[kingjaz]

Isn't the chance of a student dying based on their sexual desires for widow, I mean even with widow's malice stat, at the end of the day, the students have to willingly go to her for a 'exam' or 'one on one lesson', afterall it's not like widow can just rape a student without a valid reason such as a student willingly approaching her for 'lessons'.

Is widow allowed to kill a just graduated tier 3 student if he succumbs to her teasing, for whatever reason?

Is it possible for all students to fail, I mean if enough students die, surely their survival instincts will clash more with their lusts for her?

 

[Tribe]

Isn't the chance of a student dying based on their sexual desires for widow, I mean even with widow's malice stat, at the end of the day, the students have to willingly go to her for a 'exam' or 'one on one lesson', afterall it's not like widow can just rape a student without a valid reason such as a student willingly approaching her for 'lessons'.

Is widow allowed to kill a just graduated tier 3 student if he succumbs to her teasing, for whatever reason?

Is it possible for all students to fail, I mean if enough students die, surely their survival instincts will clash more with their lusts for her?

The chance of a student dying is based more on their general sexual desire than their desire for Widow herself. Physically, their survival chances are mostly based on their stamina... But if I had to give advice to one of them on the surest way to survive, it would be to not piss off their teacher. That's the key.

And about that other thing, Widow really can just rape a student without a valid reason...
The aspect that we're leaving out is that the classroom doubles as a testing facility. Desire, survivability, isolation, their response to death, and many other factors play into the true reason they are being gathered there. There is a lot of unrevealed information regarding what goes on there.

There are no plans to focus specifically on whether or not their survival instincts clashed with their lust outside of story events. In the end, the classroom is a side story, and it is important that it doesn't become overly complicated.
I will develop a formula that increases their chances of survival based on how many students remain so there isn't a scenario where there is not a single student remaining. After some balancing, I hope to create a situation where there are a few graduates or perhaps one or two depending on Widow's Malice parameter.

 

[kingjaz]

So the info revealed so far in this game is

1. Widow is a highly functioning nymphomaniac serial killer, who somehow develope a fetish for killing men during sex, whose worse urges are repressed by her amnesia and husband somehow.

2. Her hidden desires were first unleashed when a female agent messed with her husband, which triggered her predatory instincts, that led to her killing Mr. Taka and his eldest son.

I'm curious Did Widow honor her promise not to harm his family, I prefer complex morality Widow who has at least a code, or noble demon tendencies?

3. Is there a reason why Claire or Widow didn't have sex with the informant, instead of just killing him by physical attack? I'm analyzing her personality.

4. Widow only has two ways of enjoying sex one is with her husband, 2 is when she is killing her partner regardless of if she feels hatred, anger towards her partner, as evidence when she hardly reacted to Sentinel and Dokt, compare to how she reacted with Mr. Taka and his son.

5. I bet that Widow is the only attractive female staff, if not the only female around present in the school/testing facility, meaning that she is the only sexual outlet for the men in the facility, meaning she is their only available sex life unless they decided on celibacy and abstinence. Is she allowed to lace the food with enchancements and drugs to increase the sex drive of the school/facilty population.

In fact I think the director of this project wanted widow to kill them both for research purposes and to redirect her blood lust towards acceptable targets, instead of snapping and killing potential VIPs like Mr. Taka. With the few survivors being bonuses for whoever is in charged of the project.

6. Does widow prefer her victims to be submissive men like Mr. Taka and his son, or the more aggressive, misoginystic ,thuglike, rapists, ex-veterans that composes her students?
Would she have if not respect him, at least preferred that the salaryman who was licking her pussy attempted to rape her or take initiative, of course he would die, but at least Widow would at least respected him more probably.

 

[Tribe]

So the info revealed so far in this game is

1. Widow is a highly functioning nymphomaniac serial killer, who somehow develope a fetish for killing men during sex, whose worse urges are repressed by her amnesia and husband somehow.

This isn't entirely accurate. It's more of a curiosity than a fetish for killing men. For the most part, she considers it a necessity. I cannot reveal more than that at this time.

2. Her hidden desires were first unleashed when a female agent messed with her husband, which triggered her predatory instincts, that led to her killing Mr. Taka and his eldest son.

I'm curious Did Widow honor her promise not to harm his family, I prefer complex morality Widow who has at least a code, or noble demon tendencies?

She didn't have any hidden desires unleashed. Yes, her predatory instincts were triggered via anger and panic. Widow honered her promise, but it had more to do with operating under time constraints than honor or consideration. Exposing herself unnecessarily to kill them for no benefit never crossed her mind.

3. Is there a reason why Claire or Widow didn't have sex with the informant, instead of just killing him by physical attack? I'm analyzing her personality.

Widow was too angry to provide pleasure to anyone at that time. She tortured him to blow off some steam. As far as how her personality is related to this, Widow doesn't always rely on her poison to achieve her goals. For example, during her first mission with Taku when she felt confident that she could simply use intimidation. She isn't afraid to experiment or test other limitations and, as a result, Widow developed a reputation for being a loose cannon because she's had to kill targets when these experiments didn't go according to plan.

4. Widow only has two ways of enjoying sex one is with her husband, 2 is when she is killing her partner regardless of if she feels hatred, anger towards her partner, as evidence when she hardly reacted to Sentinel and Dokt, compare to how she reacted with Mr. Taka and his son.

Widow perceives sex in such a way that it would take a few pages to describe. Widow doesn't enjoy the act of sex outright, but she does enjoy orgasms like anyone else. Claire enjoys serving her husband far more than she enjoys sex with him... an important distinction.

5. I bet that Widow is the only attractive female staff, if not the only female around present in the school/testing facility, meaning that she is the only sexual outlet for the men in the facility, meaning she is their only available sex life unless they decided on celibacy and abstinence. Is she allowed to lace the food with enchancements and drugs to increase the sex drive of the school/facilty population.

There is at least one other female staff member there, and I personally don't find her attractive... but that's just me. I think if she laced food there it would conflict with the test results. Additionally, I don't think that Widow would feel it would necessary to do so. The story doesn't attempt to sell Widow as being so attractive and desirable that a group of men would desire her after watching others being killed by her (unlike some of us). Both Widow and the students are required by the facility to have sex and it isn't something Widow desires or attempts to actively pursue.

6. Does widow prefer her victims to be submissive men like Mr. Taka and his son, or the more aggressive, misoginystic ,thuglike, rapists, ex-veterans that composes her students?
Would she have if not respect him, at least preferred that the salaryman who was licking her pussy attempted to rape her or take initiative, of course he would die, but at least Widow would at least respected him more probably.

Widow isn't picky about her targets. Whether they are submissive or not means nothing to her. The salaryman's name is Jun (which means obedient man). Jun chose not to act, passively observing her while she changed clothes before her class, she knew what kind of man he was before she had a chance to consider her preferences. Widow respects honesty more than anything, thus his first impression was not a good one. During the changing scene in the intro before her photoshoot, it was mentioned that Claire's "disdain toward dishonesty is immeasurable". Whether that translates to Widow may or may not be relevant. If Jun took initiative from the beginning, perhaps she would have respected him more, but he'd probably be dead as a consequence.

 

[kingjaz]

1. Whats the more in character action for Widow in this scenario 2 thugs suddenly block the only entrance of a alley that Widow was about to exit and drag her back deeper, with the other thug suddenly starting to tear her clothes off

A. start feeling afraid and start crying for help, before inevitably getting rape, like a hentai doujin.

B. feel unafraid and beat them up like black widow, lara croft with her superior training.

C. feel angry and hate then, then keep struggling but ultimately get rape like in a hentai doujin.

D. feel arousal, excitement and interest by pretending to 'cry' , get 'angry' and 'struggle' while struggling not to laugh at the thugs, all the while making sure the rapists feel more of her body contact, then in the middle of 'rape' she turns the tables on them and they ultimately die.

2. You said if the salary man had taken initiative, she would have respected him more, but still end up killing him. If some of the students started touching her, saying lewd things and tearing her clothes off to rape her, what would her feelings be.
a. anger and hate
b. irritation
c. arousal and her sadistic side comes out to play.
d. amusement

3. When she does kill her rapists (students, etc..), does she feel any anger, hate towards them in the aftermath, or does she feel 'well that was a fun experience, I hope it was good for them too, no hard feelings.'

What would she feel most angry about her most if the students actions
a. if they disobey her
b. if they disrespect her by calling her stupid.
c. if they try to rape her by starting to grope her body out of lust.


4. Speaking of Widow, is Claire as strong as Natasha the other black widow?

 

[Tribe]

1. Whats the more in character action for Widow in this scenario 2 thugs suddenly block the only entrance of a alley that Widow was about to exit and drag her back deeper, with the other thug suddenly starting to tear her clothes off

B. feel unafraid and beat them up like black widow, lara croft with her superior training.

I find it difficult to imagine herself allowing someone to drag her somewhere and touch her clothes but I'd say B is closest answer.

2. You said if the salary man had taken initiative, she would have respected him more, but still end up killing him. If some of the students started touching her, saying lewd things and tearing her clothes off to rape her, what would her feelings be.

b. irritation

Again, I'm pretty sure she'd die before allowing someone to tear her clothes off, let alone rape her. She'd feel irritated up until someone touches her.

3. When she does kill her rapists (students, etc..), does she feel any anger, hate towards them in the aftermath, or does she feel 'well that was a fun experience, I hope it was good for them too, no hard feelings.'

Neither? I could see her hoping it was good for them too depending on her mood. The story will reveal more of her inner workings as it progresses.

What would she feel most angry about her most if the students actions

c. if they try to rape her by starting to grope her body out of lust.

C, if it wasn't her intention to provoke this action.

4. Speaking of Widow, is Claire as strong as Natasha the other black widow?

When I try to quantify Widow's physical prowess I try to imagine what a gymnast who's been retired for two years could do. She's excellent with a knife, has powerful legs with a very strong core, and relies on technique more than power. I wouldn't say Claire is anywhere close to being as strong as Natasha... Outside of the bed, of course.

I feel as if the gist of this post is to gather what Widow would do if someone attempted to rape her and succeeded.
During the act, she would feel disgusted toward herself for allowing it to happen. Situations like that are second-nature to her and it wouldn't be as traumatic to her as it would for the average person.
Afterward, assuming they survived through having sex with her, I doubt she'd rest until she found each one of them and made them regret it.

I hope you found the answer you were looking for

 

[kingjaz]

Widow is different in terms of morality and some other stuff, she doesn't really act like a standard normal female, heck I would say people like Natasha think and feel more lika a normal person than Claire.

I misjudged her, I know that she is unpredictable I didn't expect Widow to be that offended or fazed by rape, but I was correct that she won't be traumatized considering her predatory serial killer vibes. She is just openly sexual and a bit homicidal, yet is capable of love and attachments, that what makes her tick is different from what makes normal people tick, she views killing and sex in a different way than a normal person would view the two subjects.

So she reacts like a rpg heroine in a rp hentai game with a sex, rape count, easily brushes off rape defeats and continues on her quest, the only difference is that Claire will actually hunts and kills her rapists in the aftermath, if not during the act.

Please tell me that I at least guess this fact, at most she will feel ' irritation, annoyanceand slight anger at most ' for the rapists, a Widow that was successfully raped will get angry, more angry at herself than the rapists for letting it happened and more about the rapist having 'win' by getting the best of her and even then its not about the rape itself more about her 'losing', but even then that anger about her 'losing' won't compare to the anger she felt at the fiasco about her husband being messed with that caused her to run amok and kill the informant, Mr. Taka and his son and almost kill Sentinel.

All this time Widow has been in control of most scenarios involve in sex, negotiations with her 'handlers' 'employers', and missions , she dictates what will happen, when it will happen. She mostly wins in everything dominating over almost everyone.

Thats not to say Widow doesn't enjoy being submissive or dominated, but only if she allows it.

 

[NewTricks]

I find it difficult to imagine herself allowing someone to drag her somewhere and touch her clothes but I'd say B is closest answer.

Again, I'm pretty sure she'd die before allowing someone to tear her clothes off, let alone rape her. She'd feel irritated up until someone touches her.

Neither? I could see her hoping it was good for them too depending on her mood. The story will reveal more of her inner workings as it progresses.

C, if it wasn't her intention to provoke this action.

When I try to quantify Widow's physical prowess I try to imagine what a gymnast who's been retired for two years could do. She's excellent with a knife, has powerful legs with a very strong core, and relies on technique more than power. I wouldn't say Claire is anywhere close to being as strong as Natasha... Outside of the bed, of course.

I feel as if the gist of this post is to gather what Widow would do if someone attempted to rape her and succeeded.
During the act, she would feel disgusted toward herself for allowing it to happen. Situations like that are second-nature to her and it wouldn't be as traumatic to her as it would for the average person.
Afterward, assuming they survived through having sex with her, I doubt she'd rest until she found each one of them and made them regret it.

I hope you found the answer you were looking for

Soooooooooo trying to rape this woman is like trying to throw briar rabbit into the briar patch. She would be like "oh me oh my, don't rape poor little me" and when they fucked her poisonous vagina they would die and she would laugh at their corpse because neither one of them got to cum. Assuming that the Dread Pirate Wesley was trickling her vagina poison on his dick for several years to pregame and he survived she would probably just shrug and break his neck between her thighs. If he actually did make her cum maybe she would make it a clean break and he would die right there instead of her leaving him to shit in a bag for the rest of their life.

TLDR; any rapist of Widow is gearing up to win the Darwin award.

 

[kingjaz]

From what I see, the vagina poison is triggered once her victim orgasms or somthing, with each subsequent orgasm somehow destroys the body of the victim, Trick did mentioned something about survival being based on stamina, so if her victim practices self-control and endure the sex session without orgasm, they could in theory survive the poison, which is unlikely as no man has been able to withstand the widow.

And from what I observe, Widow is indeed cruel, but at the same time has a twisted sense of mercy as she allows her victims to orgasm a couple of times before dying thus she has a honor code about her victims dying in ecstasy, or it can be a matter of pride for her at being good at sex, thus she wants her victims to orgasm before dying, or maybe she is just pragmatic because her poison requires her victim to orgasm before the countdown to their demise begins. Or she is just predatorily depraved, she did kill the elder son of Mr. Taka and made him watch , and made Mr. Taka horny even though she just killed his son just to toy with him, and wear his wife's lingerie.

 

[Tribe]

I misjudged her, I know that she is unpredictable I didn't expect Widow to be that offended or fazed by rape, but I was correct that she won't be traumatized considering her predatory serial killer vibes. She is just openly sexual and a bit homicidal, yet is capable of love and attachments, that what makes her tick is different from what makes normal people tick, she views killing and sex in a different way than a normal person would view the two subjects.

If you punch a boxer in the nose it still hurts. Widow is prideful and stubborn, so allowing someone to have his way with her just wouldn't sit right with her. Saying she is capable of love is skipping ahead quite a bit. She views sex and killing differently mostly because it is involved in her work and it isn't always an intimate interaction.

So she reacts like a rpg heroine in a rp hentai game with a sex, rape count, easily brushes off rape defeats and continues on her quest, the only difference is that Claire will actually hunts and kills her rapists in the aftermath, if not during the act.

Saying Widow would easily brush off a rape is inaccurate...

Please tell me that I at least guess this fact, at most she will feel ' irritation, annoyanceand slight anger at most ' for the rapists, a Widow that was successfully raped will get angry, more angry at herself than the rapists for letting it happened and more about the rapist having 'win' by getting the best of her and even then its not about the rape itself more about her 'losing', but even then that anger about her 'losing' won't compare to the anger she felt at the fiasco about her husband being messed with that caused her to run amok and kill the informant, Mr. Taka and his son and almost kill Sentinel.

Again, I simply can't imagine a world where this could possibly happen but if you changed how she would feel to 'very, very pissed off', then yes, what you've said is right.

All this time Widow has been in control of most scenarios involve in sex, negotiations with her 'handlers' 'employers', and missions , she dictates what will happen, when it will happen. She mostly wins in everything dominating over almost everyone.

Thats not to say Widow doesn't enjoy being submissive or dominated, but only if she allows it.

I'd say, overall, Widow has lost more than she has gained since the story began. And yes, she feels the need to remain in control. This topic has been hinted at several times, most notably when the MC approaches her from behind and when her home was threatened. "Widows can't do shit while they're on their backs", Widow always prefers to be in control. Her views on submissive sex will be portrayed extensively in future development.

If he actually did make her cum maybe she would make it a clean break and he would die right there instead of her leaving him to shit in a bag for the rest of their life.

Yes. That about sums it up.

From what I see, the vagina poison is triggered once her victim orgasms or somthing, with each subsequent orgasm somehow destroys the body of the victim

If she intends to poison someone she will secrete poison. Think of it like standing in some parasite-infested swamp water... You might get an infection if you're lucky, but if you take a piss while standing there, you're pretty fucked.

And from what I observe, Widow is indeed cruel, but at the same time has a twisted sense of mercy as she allows her victims to orgasm a couple of times before dying thus she has a honor code about her victims dying in ecstasy, or it can be a matter of pride for her at being good at sex, thus she wants her victims to orgasm before dying, or maybe she is just pragmatic because her poison requires her victim to orgasm before the countdown to their demise begins. Or she is just predatorily depraved, she did kill the elder son of Mr. Taka and made him watch , and made Mr. Taka horny even though she just killed his son just to toy with him, and wear his wife's lingerie.

All of her reasonings were explained during that scene. If you haven't watched the revised version, I highly recommend it. It's more of a tutorial of how her poison works and the different ways it can be used. The eldest son of Mr. Toda wasn't being granted a mercy, she was trying to see how fast she could kill him because she was in a hurry.

 

[kingjaz]

you said if Widow was raped, she would be very very pissed off due to lack of control, so if her students did rape her, she would kill them, but you also said after killing them in the aftermath, she won't feel any anger or hate towards them, on the contrary depending on her mood, she may feel 'well that was a fun experience, I hope it was good for them too, no hard feelings.'
So do you mean she will be pissed at the students or rapists for raping her, but after killing them, depending on her mood , she may potentially feel 'well that was a fun experience, I hope it was good for them too, no hard feelings.'. you also said she will respect the salaryman more for 'taking the initiative in the beginning' and being honest about his intentions, although she will still kill him.

So If the salary man acted on his intentions, she will be pissed off at him, kill him but respect him more than what she feels towards him at the moment.

 

[Tribe]

you said if Widow was raped, she would be very very pissed off due to lack of control,

I don't recall saying this.

so if her students did rape her, she would kill them, but you also said after killing them in the aftermath, she won't feel any anger or hate towards them, on the contrary depending on her mood, she may feel 'well that was a fun experience, I hope it was good for them too, no hard feelings.'

I don't recall saying this either. I did, however, say that she may hope it was good for them depending on her mood.

So do you mean she will be pissed at the students or rapists for raping her, but after killing them, depending on her mood , she may potentially feel 'well that was a fun experience, I hope it was good for them too, no hard feelings.'. you also said she will respect the salaryman more for 'taking the initiative in the beginning' and being honest about his intentions, although she will still kill him.

So If the salary man acted on his intentions, she will be pissed off at him, kill him but respect him more than what she feels towards him at the moment.

I'm going to attempt to draw an accurate picture here regarding this. While I do love a good discussion, I don't think we're allowed to type the word rape this many times. And I feel that I'm beginning to be taken out of context.

The first thing we have to consider is that there is only so much I can say because Widow's mindset is a core element of the story. Telling you exact information is nothing less than a spoiler in some cases. Thus, there are some instances where I had to speak around the topic. Character development and all that...

Secondly, Widow simply cannot be raped. I tried to imagine some scenarios where she could (perhaps the MC was captured) and I put myself in her shoes... And I guess she felt pretty bad about it. I stated earlier that it wouldn't be as traumatic for her as it would for others, not that it wouldn't be traumatic at all.

And lastly, this game doesn't feature rape where females are the recipient, as stated in OP. I don't mind discussing the characters of the game and I think it's fair to put her in the shoes of her victims, but I'm shooting from the hip here because the women in this world don't have to worry about that sort of thing. That doesn't mean the game will never include it, but honestly, I've never considered any of this before now.

I feel like you want me to say or comment on something very specific but the topic is too broad with too many variables. What's her mood? Was she struck? What was said? Did she instigate it? Does she know the person? Were there drugs involved? Is she late for work? Rape is too much of a complex topic that, frankly, I don't feel comfortable giving a definite answer. Widow is a human character in my mind with several layers and she isn't so emotionally detached that she feels nothing at all. That said, I'll never truly know what a woman would feel in a situation like that but I can assume she'd be pretty upset.

 

[allinon]

And from what I observe, Widow is indeed cruel, but at the same time has a twisted sense of mercy as she allows her victims to orgasm a couple of times before dying thus she has a honor code about her victims dying in ecstasy, or it can be a matter of pride for her at being good at sex, thus she wants her victims to orgasm before dying

You just described the best part of her.

 

[JLP603]

Anyone know anyother real porn game with a mostly jav cast of characters that hasnt been abandoned?

 

[BondZero10]

Speaking of... how far are we untill an update for this? Ready to experiance some new content i enjoy this game specifically for the jav content

 

[Tribe]

Speaking of... how far are we untill an update for this? Ready to experiance some new content i enjoy this game specifically for the jav content

The update is nearly complete. I've had to go back to python class recently to get some of my stuff to work properly and I'm still currently in uncharted territory (It's related to classes and tracking side stories). Thank you for your patience!

 

[BadWarThunder]

The update is nearly complete. I've had to go back to python class recently to get some of my stuff to work properly and I'm still currently in uncharted territory (It's related to classes and tracking side stories). Thank you for your patience!

It's been 16 days. Any news?

 

[Tribe]

It's been 16 days. Any news?

The alpha is available for download on my discord. It'll be another 48 hours or so before the official release is ready.
If you choose to download v3.0, please be mindful of the existing bug report. I'm trying to get a stable version ready as soon as possible.

 

[BadWarThunder]

The alpha is available for download on my discord. It'll be another 48 hours or so before the official release is ready.
If you choose to download v3.0, please be mindful of the existing bug report. I'm trying to get a stable version ready as soon as possible.

That's why we can download the alpha: so we can report the bug )