VN Ren'Py Abandoned Breaking Ties [v0.5] [Secret Arcade]

[Zara Scarlet]

I don't know how or where to open a thread.

Go to forums (top left of this screen), then scroll down to General Discussions, and then top right you'll see 'Post Thread'.

 

[HoneyMonster]

It is apparent that the dev has abandoned 3D games altogether, as they find working with 2D much more manageable.

Sorry to say this, but 2D games will be a thing of the past in a few years, 3d with animation will gain more popularity, And the likes of NTR/Blackmail and corruption(heavy blackmail/heavy corruption) that force a character into sexual activities will slowly die out of popularity, more and more people are starting to look for AVN's with better animations/renders with an actual story that draws you in and gives you endless choices/pahs rather than just a porn novel. Characters with their own personality are starting to gain traction in AVN's. Just look at kinetic novels, not many people go crazy for those anymore.
But unfortunately, there will always be so many that start a novel only to abandon it after a short time.

 

[Xxrizz]

Sorry to say this, but 2D games will be a thing of the past in a few years, 3d with animation will gain more popularity, And the likes of NTR/Blackmail and corruption(heavy blackmail/heavy corruption) that force a character into sexual activities will slowly die out of popularity, more and more people are starting to look for AVN's with better animations/renders with an actual story that draws you in and gives you endless choices/pahs rather than just a porn novel. Characters with their own personality are starting to gain traction in AVN's. Just look at kinetic novels, not many people go crazy for those anymore.
But unfortunately, there will always be so many that start a novel only to abandon it after a short time.

You can not replace sex say whatever you want ,but that's what it sells not mainly the story ,there are so many Avn almost zero story and still have like 1k paid members ....at least

 

[HoneyMonster]

You can not replace sex say whatever you want ,but that's what it sells not mainly the story ,there are so many Avn almost zero story and still have like 1k paid members ....at least

I did not say replacing sex, The the way the sex is done is slowly changing, just like 99% of AVN's at the moment are male MC's, but the FMC character is gaining traction, just like lesbian only orientated novels are gaining more interest, this trend will only keep growing, Obviously there will always be the slut routes with the heavy blackmail and corruption, and of course NTR will always be there, but as with all things they change over time, just look at how AVN's have changed since there birth, the actual concept of an AVN was not about sex on it's own, it was about telling a story, but time changed the concept of AVN's and more sex was added then came the kinks and fetishes along with the heavy blackmail and corruption pushing mainly female characters down into NTR and being sexually exploited or turned into sluts, as we move forward more impressive 3D AVN's will become more popular and the way they are told will change and less degrading of the female characters will grow in popularity, How many AVN's from 15-20 years ago do you still play regulary?? have you never noticed a change in AVN's in the last several years?? They are changing, and they are changing for the better to attract more users/players/subscribers, better characters and better stories.

 

[Boobaassloving]

what a shame layla is so hot

 

[eliteplague1]

what a shame layla is so hot

one of the hottest natural looking bodies

 

[acntall]

abandoned already ???

 

[Fuckyour_hotwif34ndm0m]

God she so fkin hot
That areola damn

How to get this scene?

 

[Fuckyour_hotwif34ndm0m]

Damnnn, everytime when i found the hottest game that i think will be fav it always abandoned. Can't believe this shit

 

[hoochimama]

The milf models are great but that was mostly it.

The way the povs and story are setup shows it didn't quite know which audience it was going for -whether the actual NTR (netorare) fans or those who just want to observe a cheating/corrupted wife in action regardless of perspective- nor how to please either audience.

Game starts off from the husband's pov (presumed NTR MC's) and for the longest time you are shown the daily life of this couple. You see how he consistently neglects her sexually, romantically etc because he's always exhausted when he gets home from work. A job that nevertheless still doesn't pay enough for them to be able to afford kids adding to the housewife's frustration and boredom. A decent setup for a NTR story.
This sequence goes on for a fairly long time. Almost 10x longer than needed for what little plot and character development is achieved. And as the MC you never get to make any choices, no agency whatsoever. So you assume it's just going to be a "kinetic"/non-interactive novel.

Enter the presumed NTR antagonist. MC's own brother comes to live with them. Now you switch to the wife's POV and as the wife for the first time you are given some agency, actual dialog choices to make - to either encourage or discourage the antagonist from flirting with her. So it looks like it's mainly going to be a female protag-centered cheating wife game where you make her cheating decisions for her. So for the true NTR crowd the potential for a NTR kick goes out the window then and there. What remains is the potential to observe it for the appeal of a wife cheating around on her husband, the erotic aspect of corruption, seeing a woman do something taboo, being corrupted into doing something whorier/sluttier than what's assumed of her.

Yet after a couple of dialog options where the wife can encourage or discourage the antagonist's flirting you are treated to a flashback sequence that shows that the antagonist already fucked her behind her now-husband's back when the couple was dating. So the corruption and taboo fuck already happened from the getgo, whatever choices you now make as the fem protag can at most lead to bis/repeat performances. There's practically no"I can't believe she did that!" kick to be had from whichever way the story unfolds following that. So I lost all interest from there on.

 

[La Dani]

Another game dead?

 

[HikenNoAcee]

sorry to see that abandoned..

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Sorry to say this, but 2D games will be a thing of the past in a few years, 3d with animation will gain more popularity, And the likes of NTR/Blackmail and corruption(heavy blackmail/heavy corruption) that force a character into sexual activities will slowly die out of popularity, more and more people are starting to look for AVN's with better animations/renders with an actual story that draws you in and gives you endless choices/pahs rather than just a porn novel. Characters with their own personality are starting to gain traction in AVN's. Just look at kinetic novels, not many people go crazy for those anymore.
But unfortunately, there will always be so many that start a novel only to abandon it after a short time.

Isn't that what people said about old-style video games in the 90's, and now old consoles and video games are like gold dust. New doesn't mean better in everyone's eyes, just look at all the people who hate on games made with AI. 2D games will always have a following, whether it's just people who prefer them or feel nostalgic from time to time.

As for your thoughts on the future NTR/Blackmail or corruption games, I think that's just complete rubbish. Because people like what they like, and many of them will keep liking that because it turns them on, and plenty more will follow in the future for the same reasons. NTR and corruption games are essentially niche content, and most of the players that support them monetarily, are not concerned whether they're currently the rage or not in the slightest.

In my experience, games with endless choices rarely survive, because it takes so long to actually get anywhere, and people become bored that their chosen pathway isn't getting any content in the current update. It takes an awful lot of luck, to get enough supporters early on in a game, to support a large enough team of creators, to make it possible to churn out enough content regularly on all those different routes, to keep satisfying those supporters and keep afloat. Many Devs who go that route just aren't that lucky and soon realise they've bitten off more than they can chew, and the game inevitably gets abandoned. And the only way to get around that is to use AI, which can be a poisoned chalice, because so many people hate it and it currently has many flaws and drawbacks. So if you don't get it just right, you still don't get enough support, and the game gets abandoned anyway.

And that explains why a lot games in these genres are so linear. Because it's the sensible thing to do!
The people who support them, generally get what they want, in every update. And because of that they keep supporting them.
People who want more, like you, would likely never support them anyway. So the Devs are not losing much, by just sticking with the tried and tested format. What I want more than anything in games of this sort, is precisely the kind of content that gets me off, and the storyline is a secondary consideration. I wouldn't say it's completely unimportant, because a storyline that makes some kind of sense, is definitely better, even if the rationale is sometimes fanciful. But the most important thing is the actual sexual content, and whether it satisfies my particular kinks. And I think the same applies to most supporters of this type of content? And what you want, is not necessarily what they want or consider to be that important?

 

[MaxMarsh0012]

Isn't that what people said about old-style video games in the 90's, and now old consoles and video games are like gold dust. New doesn't mean better in everyone's eyes, just look at all the people who hate on games made with AI. 2D games will always have a following, whether it's just people who prefer them or feel nostalgic from time to time.

As for your thoughts on the future NTR/Blackmail or corruption games, I think that's just complete rubbish. Because people like what they like, and many of them will keep liking that because it turns them on, and plenty more will follow in the future for the same reasons. NTR and corruption games are essentially niche content, and most of the players that support them monetarily, are not concerned whether they're currently the rage or not in the slightest.

In my experience, games with endless choices rarely survive, because it takes so long to actually get anywhere, and people become bored that their chosen pathway isn't getting any content in the current update. It takes an awful lot of luck, to get enough supporters early on in a game, to support a large enough team of creators, to make it possible to churn out enough content regularly on all those different routes, to keep satisfying those supporters and keep afloat. Many Devs who go that route just aren't that lucky and soon realise they've bitten off more than they can chew, and the game inevitably gets abandoned. And the only way to get around that is to use AI, which can be a poisoned chalice, because so many people hate it and it currently has many flaws and drawbacks. So if you don't get it just right, you still don't get enough support, and the game gets abandoned anyway.

And that explains why a lot games in these genres are so linear. Because it's the sensible thing to do!
The people who support them, generally get what they want, in every update. And because of that they keep supporting them.
People who want more, like you, would likely never support them anyway. So the Devs are not losing much, by just sticking with the tried and tested format. What I want more than anything in games of this sort, is precisely the kind of content that gets me off, and the storyline is a secondary consideration. I wouldn't say it's completely unimportant, because a storyline that makes some kind of sense, is definitely better, even if the rationale is sometimes fanciful. But the most important thing is the actual sexual content, and whether it satisfies my particular kinks. And I think the same applies to most supporters of this type of content? And what you want, is not necessarily what they want or consider to be that important?

These people were saying the same shit when VR porn was getting popular like how it"ll end 2D porn. None of that happened. Ntr fans aren't going nowhere. Same applies to fans of other genres. This site doesn't represent the average experience of fans who financially supports their favorite developers. Some ntr devs are easily making ~10k per month. The key thing is building a loyal community

 

[HoneyMonster]

Isn't that what people said about old-style video games in the 90's, and now old consoles and video games are like gold dust. New doesn't mean better in everyone's eyes, just look at all the people who hate on games made with AI. 2D games will always have a following, whether it's just people who prefer them or feel nostalgic from time to time.

As for your thoughts on the future NTR/Blackmail or corruption games, I think that's just complete rubbish. Because people like what they like, and many of them will keep liking that because it turns them on, and plenty more will follow in the future for the same reasons. NTR and corruption games are essentially niche content, and most of the players that support them monetarily, are not concerned whether they're currently the rage or not in the slightest.

In my experience, games with endless choices rarely survive, because it takes so long to actually get anywhere, and people become bored that their chosen pathway isn't getting any content in the current update. It takes an awful lot of luck, to get enough supporters early on in a game, to support a large enough team of creators, to make it possible to churn out enough content regularly on all those different routes, to keep satisfying those supporters and keep afloat. Many Devs who go that route just aren't that lucky and soon realise they've bitten off more than they can chew, and the game inevitably gets abandoned. And the only way to get around that is to use AI, which can be a poisoned chalice, because so many people hate it and it currently has many flaws and drawbacks. So if you don't get it just right, you still don't get enough support, and the game gets abandoned anyway.

And that explains why a lot games in these genres are so linear. Because it's the sensible thing to do!
The people who support them, generally get what they want, in every update. And because of that they keep supporting them.
People who want more, like you, would likely never support them anyway. So the Devs are not losing much, by just sticking with the tried and tested format. What I want more than anything in games of this sort, is precisely the kind of content that gets me off, and the storyline is a secondary consideration. I wouldn't say it's completely unimportant, because a storyline that makes some kind of sense, is definitely better, even if the rationale is sometimes fanciful. But the most important thing is the actual sexual content, and whether it satisfies my particular kinks. And I think the same applies to most supporters of this type of content? And what you want, is not necessarily what they want or consider to be that important?

Isn't that what people said about old-style video games in the 90's, and now old consoles and video games are like gold dust. New doesn't mean better in everyone's eyes, just look at all the people who hate on games made with AI. 2D games will always have a following, whether it's just people who prefer them or feel nostalgic from time to time.

As for your thoughts on the future NTR/Blackmail or corruption games, I think that's just complete rubbish. Because people like what they like, and many of them will keep liking that because it turns them on, and plenty more will follow in the future for the same reasons. NTR and corruption games are essentially niche content, and most of the players that support them monetarily, are not concerned whether they're currently the rage or not in the slightest.

In my experience, games with endless choices rarely survive, because it takes so long to actually get anywhere, and people become bored that their chosen pathway isn't getting any content in the current update. It takes an awful lot of luck, to get enough supporters early on in a game, to support a large enough team of creators, to make it possible to churn out enough content regularly on all those different routes, to keep satisfying those supporters and keep afloat. Many Devs who go that route just aren't that lucky and soon realise they've bitten off more than they can chew, and the game inevitably gets abandoned. And the only way to get around that is to use AI, which can be a poisoned chalice, because so many people hate it and it currently has many flaws and drawbacks. So if you don't get it just right, you still don't get enough support, and the game gets abandoned anyway.

And that explains why a lot games in these genres are so linear. Because it's the sensible thing to do!
The people who support them, generally get what they want, in every update. And because of that they keep supporting them.
People who want more, like you, would likely never support them anyway. So the Devs are not losing much, by just sticking with the tried and tested format. What I want more than anything in games of this sort, is precisely the kind of content that gets me off, and the storyline is a secondary consideration. I wouldn't say it's completely unimportant, because a storyline that makes some kind of sense, is definitely better, even if the rationale is sometimes fanciful. But the most important thing is the actual sexual content, and whether it satisfies my particular kinks. And I think the same applies to most supporters of this type of content? And what you want, is not necessarily what they want or consider to be that important?

Good job we live in a free society, you have your opinions and i have mine, I don't need to jerk off to an AVN(Adult Visual Novel), That's exactly what they are, just a novel with some visual porn.
Maybe you have missed some of the top AVN's that have multiple choices with multiple paths, They seem to be very popular and have great story/plots with decent characters, And just enough sex to keep you coming back for more.
At least i can admit i know there will always be people who want old school tried and tested AVN's, But you don't seem to be able to admit that more and more people are getting tired of the same tried and tested fck fest's(corruption/Blackmail/slut creating). same plot/story with just a little tweak here and there but still the same old stuff, Get's boring and repetitive.
I see it in comments, people complaining it's the same old stuff, It's nothing new, just like a copy and paste.
Regarding AVN's getting abandoned, that's due to shit story-telling, lack of funds, or just a pure lack of talent, And maybe a lack of interest in their own AVN, Let's face reality a lot of these Dev's/Creators are in it just for money, they lack the passion to create a decent AVN.
But hay at the end of the day i like what i like and dislike what i dislike, where as you like what you like and dislike what you dislike, as long as we can chat without disrespecting each other then it's all good.