Unreal Engine Breeders of the Nephelym [v0.761.11] [DerelictHelmsman]

[WinterNanachi]

Removed incest at the request of patreon well that is stupid I quite liked that feature. So no I'll not update.

 

[H3ntaiMaster69]

I don't get why people are getting so heated up over losing the incest element, other than a colour message about it the removal of it has only lost two traits that had no real effect over overall gameplay. I was losing interest in the game until the new breeding mechanics were brought in. Now, I'm having a great time creating some very beautiful (and in one case beyond adorable) Nephelym, crossbreeding them to get them bigger and smaller and so on.!

Speaking of that beyond adorable one, this is Gay (literally the first name that came up in the name generator) who is a slender goblin who is half Titan!
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What I'm mad about is that every single game i like on this site (im being hyperbolic) removes the incest because of patreon.

 

[Ravenger6660]

Here are the new rabbits monsters and hut. They live near cows by the cliffs. Sadly they don't bounce.

 

[ebonheart2319]

I don't get why people are getting so heated up over losing the incest element, other than a colour message...

why ppl are so upset about incest in this game ? i dont even remember where is the incest part , this is not like a story incest game like renpy or rpg

While Parentreon may have been referring to the specific positive perk and corresponding negative perk in THIS instance, the game in general is vulnerable to action unless Derelict completely reworks mechanics. Its a breeding game. Where you breed for certain traits. Which includes furries, rape, drug use, transformation and sexual exploitation. All of which can trigger the puritan alarms. All of which are technically against Parentreon ToS.


If it is mechanically possible to attempt to breed 3rd cousins together in the game, Parentreon may not consider the issue resolved. If that Angel keeps accepting sex slaves for points, they may come back.
Also the entire Furry PuppyMill SexRing aspect that definitely triggers them.

Edit: Finished testing. Perks are disabled, Parent/Child sex is barred. Sibling/halfsibling sex is barred.
Grandparents to Grandchildren are breedable. Aunts/Uncles to Niece/Nephew are breedable. First Cousins are Breedable.
Pretty sure it still violates the original complaint. Just not as obvious.

 

[Problem X]

this game have a history?

 

[Lou111]

For those with the fetish it helped I guess? Otherwise the incest mechanics provided really the only sort of challenge or need to watch out for who you are breeding with whom to get the best stats. Now it won't matter at all who you breed with whom and there goes any sort of having to think in the game.

Well said.
I've been saying devs are using incest as crutch for shitty stories and bullshit mechanics for years. I proposed to DH years ago that there needs to be more weight on stats and the how they interact with breeding and sex. Here is the proof. Took away incest and now you're stuck with a glorified animation loop application. I don't think the dev deserves to have this happen to his game but developers in general need a fucking wake up call.

 

[Smellfire]

Here are the new rabbits monsters and hut. They live near cows by the cliffs. Sadly they don't bounce.

Wow, they look bang average. Early days I know, but still. Looks like hes just taken futa foxen and swapped the ears, tail and hands.

 

[edgartheslayer]

What I'm mad about is that every single game i like on this site (im being hyperbolic) removes the incest because of patreon.

Personally it was like half of the reason I played the game. It's a rare feature in porn games that MAKES SENSE gameplay wise and made it unique and more realistic-> more emersion->more porn sensitivity value. My only side gameplan goal (which is actually kind of the main goal at that point) was to make infertile children of every species with other specific traits to have the ability to have sex animations at demand without risk of pregnancy.. sort of like a gallery, without killing the emersion and kink by turning off pregnancy. Dead

 

[joethebeast]

Lol patreon is stupid. They are policing fetishes now... I wonder why people don't go to other platforms

 

[Ssato243]

Here are the new rabbits monsters and hut. They live near cows by the cliffs. Sadly they don't bounce.


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cool

 

[Jellyluve]

Pretty simple really his Patreon subs need to throw him a life line and jump ship for him over to his Subscribestar then he can say fuck Patreon and do what he wants.

 

[dudder]

Lol patreon is stupid. They are policing fetishes now... I wonder why people don't go to other platforms

Money.

 

[XoeSara]

" Removed incest at the request of Patreon " NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

I'm guessing this means the steam version is going to get it removed at well?

 

[Gobbo Layer]

oof

 

[xfto]

i am just posting here because of the recent incest changes..not looking for some rogue patch every now and then, no sireee...

but for real, this game was on my watchlist for a while now, and recent tos bs activated me for this thread...
for the bunny-girls, kinda sad they look just like foxen+earswap... thought more of petra-like bunnygirls, less fur...maybe we can play with their aesthetics in the future. especially if DH plans to implement clothes at some point....

how do you fit that much fur into a bunnygirl-suit, implement razors? xX

 

[alex2011]

Not gonna lie, I'm legitimately curious about what you guys expect Derelict to have done? Do you honestly think he'd close the Patreon account, take a roughly 90%-99% paycut, and jump ship to SubscribeStar? Do you think he'd even consider, at all, the idea of dropping the subscription model entirely and just selling via Steam?

Patreon gets away with this bullshit because they only technically have competition. Anyone who jumps ship to retain their product is losing a very substantial amount of income in the process, likely permanently because no other platform has even remotely close to the same market penetration while still being a subscription model.

Actually, those developers who already have jumped ship are not losing out at all, they are succeeding. I am subscribed to some over there as I slowly move all my support off of Patreon when the option comes up for each developer I support. In fact, people remaining on Patreon are losing out on potential new subscribers because a lot of people who would support them refuse to support Patreon.

why ppl are so upset about incest in this game ? i dont even remember where is the incest part , this is not like a story incest game like renpy or rpg

It's more about the general fact that DH bowed to Patreon instead of finding an alternative that allowed the content to stay in my case. Removing it by his own choice alone is one thing, removing it because someone else told him to is a completely different thing. There is also now a lack of consequence if you don't watch who you pair up. With the incest, there were actually consequences due to a thing called inbreeding, which caused a potential for lower stats and pricing than desired, as Jadedone said. For that reason, the player had to watch out for sibling pairs or their own offspring to avoid it and get the best result. There is now no consequence and the player can breed any pair at any time without worrying about lowered stats. It may have only been a minor change to the possible stats and pricing, but this could be just the beginning. Because of the way most mechanics are laid out, Patreon could come after even more aspects. Captured Nephs are technically slaves, not allowed by Patreon. Captured nephs cannot consent and are being exploited, both also not allowed as that would make it rape in their eyes. The problem isn't just the incest, it's the implication that this game could very easily change completely from what it is now, which is a VERY bad thing.

 

[Stripedshovel]

Incest removal sucks, though being able to manually control whether a Neph gets preggo or not softens that blow a bit. Wonder if they added that feature in anticipation of such a decision by Patreon. Still hoping that there will be an off-site patch to reintroduce in-breeding.

 

[ThanhLong32]

Forgive me if I say anything wrong or some thing similar as that, due to its been a very while since I last played the game so I dont remember it very well. I would like to ask you guys that its possibly are there any chances can we have both male and female character when we first created at the beginning of the game, then we play either one of them and have fuck as well?

 

[TheInternetIsForThis]

Actually, those developers who already have jumped ship are not losing out at all, they are succeeding. I am subscribed to some over there as I slowly move all my support off of Patreon when the option comes up for each developer I support. In fact, people remaining on Patreon are losing out on potential new subscribers because a lot of people who would support them refuse to support Patreon.

There are content makers I've seen who are doing better on sites like SubscribeStar than they did on Patreon. All of them are, without exception, people who pulled out of Patreon well before they picked up a head of steam on that site. DH has the 9th biggest adult game Patreon, by subscriber count. He is not going to match that on a smaller site, no matter what he does.

And he's not losing out on potential SubscribeStar subscribers either - he has one of those too.

Jumping Patreon now is a good idea given that only a year or two ago it came out that they're unsustainable. They got all that big tech money, grew too fast, and now can't pay back their supporters. Sure, they'll get a cash injection now and again to keep them treading water, but it's a matter of time before they get their head pushed under the water for not towing the line well enough or fast enough.
Unike Youtube, which constantly runs at a loss yet still remains, Patreon can't actively push a message since it requires the little people to work rather than big businesses, meaning all it can do is control who we are allowed support. Problem with that is, also unlike YouTube, them openly discriminating begs for a tortious interference case (see Owen Benjamin) since all they are is a glorified money delivery man.

Fun fact about that - no site like Patreon is sustainable. It's not a viable business model for profit unless, like youtube, the site is assumed to be a loss and funded anyway because the profit is elsewhere. Patreon's CEO admitted it, but the problem, such as it is, applies to SubscribeStar and other similar companies too.

He should open one anyways so people have another way to support him. Not like people won't mod the incest back in anyways lmfao

He did.

None of you even answered my question, by the way. I asked what you exptected DH to do about Patreon's demands to remove the incest from the game. I asked this with the context that his choices are to comply with Patreon and keep his current income, or lose that income to keep the incest. So many people in this thread are up in arms about how DH is kowtowing to Patreon's demands by removing the incest, without even stopping for a moment to consider the fact that the alternative is literally losing any income he's making on this game. It's available on steam for free right now. It's available for the same subscription cost on SubscribeStar as of this latest update.

He has ~250 subscribers on SubscribeStar (I can't check the exact number because the site can't even stay online long enough for me to look again. Not sure that's a trustworthy sign for a site I'd be looking to profit from), and 6,548 on Patreon. If he closed the Patreon account right now so that he could jump ship to SubscribeStar and add incest back in the next update, he would be throwing away 96% of his subscribers (and presumably a proportionally similar amount of income) just to put that one feature back in the game. I don't know very many people who would throw away that much money for that little gain. Do you?

 

[F33tLick3r]

Will there be wild Centaurs, Naga (humanoid with snake body like Warden), 4 arms creatures (similar to some dude in Mortal Kombat, too lazy to search), etc? Also, will there be more sex positions such as side way, spooning, etc? What about wheelbarrow (like doggy but female feet in air) position already in game when doing surprise sex? Will that be part of breeding?