Unreal Engine Breeders of the Nephelym [v0.761.13 Public] [DerelictHelmsman]

[DatWanGai]

Yes, yes it does....

Dude, understand. Your savegames are not going to work for everything.

Stop crying for god's sake. It's not hard to spend the 3 days you've been kicking the bucket.

You can get the same in no time.
Even if you want to farm or look to have "good kids", get them pregnant, sleep 3 days and they're done, it only takes like less than 5 minutes.

The old stuff and the new stuff are different. You can't bring with you a game from a long time ago and want to play without producing a bug with the current game.

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this guy already told you




You can search for various game developers on the site.

Some of them have no problem with you using the old games, up to a certain point. Because the current ones still have visual errors... but other than that there is no problem. All games that are in update, usually trust their players not to try to open an old game because of compatibility problems.
Even others say "If you play an old savegame, you may have problems with the game".


Look, even the "trait" "Hedonist"
In the February update approximately...

"Gains (75/100/125)% more XP, but gives none to mates."

This was changed and ended up being " 75% less to mates "

Influential - Kindhearted
"(30/40/50)% Greater chance to produce offspring of the same race"
The percentage was added.

Stoic - It used to be for Seraphim, but was changed to Orcs.
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Do you know what is the newest trait in the game?
Motherly - Offspring start's at this mother's level, with a maximum of 10


ver. 760.6. It was the version where they added more inheritance of traits to different sons/daughters, if the Mother/Futa has a trait III but the father Male/Futa does not have, the product will have the trait level I.

You know what tiny and weird changes that nobody noticed? The images of the "traits"
The tits with nipples, an ass in a thong. from having an icon with a whip... it ended up being a watch.

If we continue talking about the changes, there are many. Minuscule and that nobody wants but...
27 (in 2020) and 33 in /2024)

Remember the town siren when you go up in the building? Its function was .... CLEAN.
The trait "Grungy", you get it with the harpies. It was a debuff, it lowered many of your stats.


Many things are taken away, many things removed.

So what you're saying is.....nothing of true value was added lol.
At least in my case, I'm not a min-mix type of person so:
Hedonist - Don't care.
Influential - Actually I like that one, makes it easier to get the child you want.
Stoic - Lack of care.
Motherly - Makes things faster, only I are devoid of care.

Awesome. That makes things easier to give certain traits to offspring.

Tits with nipples that describe a Neph with bigger than normal tits? Still in the game just changed how it looks.
An ass with a thong that use to describe a Neph has a bigger butt than normal? Changed to a side view, probably because males could get that trait too.

There are many changes, minuscule and that nobody wants.....which is my point. Like. ENTIRE point. Most I can live with, but the essence system and how to increase the lvl is the biggest that's just really anti-player. It adds more grind to the game without adding substance. That be the bad.

Grungy is gone, happy day.....but there was a way to get rid of it anyway so moot point.
Sterile and abomination are gone, except they aren't. Just you can't access them normally.
Gaudy is gone which doesn't matter cause it didn't show a difference anyway.
Atypical is gone as a trait but still visually in the game.
Valuable hurts.....that made it easier to lvl up traits to wild nephs.

Overall, there's no REAL reason to play the updated version of the game. The bad changes outweigh the few good ones. If they go back to the world system or fix the essence system to not be as pointlessly grindy, sure. But until then, you're better off just playing 0.756.9. The UI changes are nice, except the fact you can't see your own stats.

 

[yp34]

So what you're saying is.....nothing of true value was added lol.
At least in my case, I'm not a min-mix type of person so:
Hedonist - Don't care.
Influential - Actually I like that one, makes it easier to get the child you want.
Stoic - Lack of care.
Motherly - Makes things faster, only I are devoid of care.

Awesome. That makes things easier to give certain traits to offspring.

Tits with nipples that describe a Neph with bigger than normal tits? Still in the game just changed how it looks.
An ass with a thong that use to describe a Neph has a bigger butt than normal? Changed to a side view, probably because males could get that trait too.

There are many changes, minuscule and that nobody wants.....which is my point. Like. ENTIRE point. Most I can live with, but the essence system and how to increase the lvl is the biggest that's just really anti-player. It adds more grind to the game without adding substance. That be the bad.

Grungy is gone, happy day.....but there was a way to get rid of it anyway so moot point.
Sterile and abomination are gone, except they aren't. Just you can't access them normally.
Gaudy is gone which doesn't matter cause it didn't show a difference anyway.
Atypical is gone as a trait but still visually in the game.
Valuable hurts.....that made it easier to lvl up traits to wild nephs.

Overall, there's no REAL reason to play the updated version of the game. The bad changes outweigh the few good ones. If they go back to the world system or fix the essence system to not be as pointlessly grindy, sure. But until then, you're better off just playing 0.756.9. The UI changes are nice, except the fact you can't see your own stats.

Abomination is gone though
Sterile still exist

 

[DoorFive]

Overall, there's no REAL reason to play the updated version of the game.

But she's got a new hat!

 

[RuneStar]

But she's got a new hat!

 

[RubyZeronyka]

Yes, yes it does....

Dude, understand. Your savegames are not going to work for everything.

Stop crying for god's sake. It's not hard to spend the 3 days you've been kicking the bucket.

You can get the same in no time.
Even if you want to farm or look to have "good kids", get them pregnant, sleep 3 days and they're done, it only takes like less than 5 minutes.

The old stuff and the new stuff are different. You can't bring with you a game from a long time ago and want to play without producing a bug with the current game.

View attachment 3990739

this guy already told you




You can search for various game developers on the site.

Some of them have no problem with you using the old games, up to a certain point. Because the current ones still have visual errors... but other than that there is no problem. All games that are in update, usually trust their players not to try to open an old game because of compatibility problems.
Even others say "If you play an old savegame, you may have problems with the game".


Look, even the "trait" "Hedonist"
In the February update approximately...

"Gains (75/100/125)% more XP, but gives none to mates."

This was changed and ended up being " 75% less to mates "

Influential - Kindhearted
"(30/40/50)% Greater chance to produce offspring of the same race"
The percentage was added.

Stoic - It used to be for Seraphim, but was changed to Orcs.
View attachment 3990806

Do you know what is the newest trait in the game?
Motherly - Offspring start's at this mother's level, with a maximum of 10


ver. 760.6. It was the version where they added more inheritance of traits to different sons/daughters, if the Mother/Futa has a trait III but the father Male/Futa does not have, the product will have the trait level I.

You know what tiny and weird changes that nobody noticed? The images of the "traits"
The tits with nipples, an ass in a thong. from having an icon with a whip... it ended up being a watch.

If we continue talking about the changes, there are many. Minuscule and that nobody wants but...
27 (in 2020) and 33 in /2024)

Remember the town siren when you go up in the building? Its function was .... CLEAN.
The trait "Grungy", you get it with the harpies. It was a debuff, it lowered many of your stats.


Many things are taken away, many things removed.

Dude you just posted two screenshots and those alone already tells me more of the way you play than the entire pseudo justification you tried to give. Let me be very clear. I find it stupid beyond normal when somone goes with their nephs like "randomite's offspring's offspring offspring offspring the to the infinity and beyondth" since that already tells me you skip half, if not all of the sex interactions IN A GODDAM PORN GAME. Which is a point a lot of you guys keep missing. We dont play a fukin porn game WITH BREEDING to see the stonks numbers rise like if youre building a fukin redstone contraption to them AFK for hours letting it autowork for you. If I wanna create X or Y neph I want it to matter, not to be a random reroll with no meaning at all. Cause if that's what Im after. I play on the creator mode to test the animations and maybe see a possible neph the would be created out of that pairing. Which bring us to the first problem. BotN pretty much only excels on the latter, never the former.

Again, U still sound like if I plan to update an ancient save to a new one when the version update Im jumping into is barely a pair of hotfixes ahead. Funny that you mention other devs' attitudes towards saves compatibility being that Derelict is the only that forces you to start from scratch. And no one else developed a game thats so insanely grindy in nature compared to BotN. EVEN USING CHEATS. I played a lot of tittles, both modded into become lewdy and others designed as lewd omes from scratch and BotN is the only that I remember rhat refuses to load old saves.

The reason I insisted so much on lack of modding and problems with save wipes are precisely tied to both the grind this game naturally have and the stupidity of the dev to allow players load old saves even if they fukin break. Cause Im sorry, even if he doesnt wanma troubleshoot possible old saves loading and breaking things, its still a lazy AF move to pull that again, I only saw Derelict doing. Cause he also shown zero interest in addressimg this very issue since before I started playing, all the way the fuk back in version 0723 when the day light cycles were added.

Also can we address as well the fact that a lot of us didnt knew how the male seraphims or titans were in the game but them got deleted cause Derelict went full anti-males content but not quite far enought to not keep the game a "just gals" club? Among many other crappy moves like locking previously available content from minute 1 like the sex positions to then having to "unlock" them. I get it doing that woth new races and its even a fun reason to explore the map for, BUT WITH SOMETHING LIKE THE FUKING DRAGONS? Dude, every playthrough I did I almost by the start with no extra quests other than unlocking the spirit form to patch the money gap between what you start with and what you neeeed for it, I went straight to catch dragons and that took me barely a few minutes, catching the first futa foxem I got, selling some fluids, messing with fern a bit and boom. Time to hunt dragons. But even if I couldnt capture them right at the start, I could still fuck with them. Now I meed to find a Wolfuta Scharzeneger on level 4 to give it to the dumb centaur maidem so I can unlock that area to that. Which I didnt fukin had to some versions ago.

Derelict has been making the game worse each update, by going the "1 nice adition vs 10 new inconveniences" each time. So in the end I keep asking myself, why spend time on this game to have my progress being basically frozen a few updates later and instead play something better like Palworld with mods or even continue on my samdbox maps in goddam Wild Life? Where I can build Night fukin City in it if I wanted and the map will load perfectly if I load it on a mew version of it. Amd before you say Wild Life is team made and BotN isnt, BotN IS team made. Is just that Derelict would stab himself on the neck before admiting it but just ask Drages if Im wrong about it. Its crazy how fanboyism blinds people to such levels.

 

[DatWanGai]

Dude you just posted two screenshots and those alone already tells me more of the way you play than the entire pseudo justification you tried to give. Let me be very clear. I find it stupid beyond normal when somone goes with their nephs like "randomite's offspring's offspring offspring offspring the to the infinity and beyondth" since that already tells me you skip half, if not all of the sex interactions IN A GODDAM PORN GAME. Which is a point a lot of you guys keep missing. We dont play a fukin porn game WITH BREEDING to see the stonks numbers rise like if youre building a fukin redstone contraption to them AFK for hours letting it autowork for you. If I wanna create X or Y neph I want it to matter, not to be a random reroll with no meaning at all. Cause if that's what Im after. I play on the creator mode to test the animations and maybe see a possible neph the would be created out of that pairing. Which bring us to the first problem. BotN pretty much only excels on the latter, never the former.

Again, U still sound like if I plan to update an ancient save to a new one when the version update Im jumping into is barely a pair of hotfixes ahead. Funny that you mention other devs' attitudes towards saves compatibility being that Derelict is the only that forces you to start from scratch. And no one else developed a game thats so insanely grindy in nature compared to BotN. EVEN USING CHEATS. I played a lot of tittles, both modded into become lewdy and others designed as lewd omes from scratch and BotN is the only that I remember rhat refuses to load old saves.

The reason I insisted so much on lack of modding and problems with save wipes are precisely tied to both the grind this game naturally have and the stupidity of the dev to allow players load old saves even if they fukin break. Cause Im sorry, even if he doesnt wanma troubleshoot possible old saves loading and breaking things, its still a lazy AF move to pull that again, I only saw Derelict doing. Cause he also shown zero interest in addressimg this very issue since before I started playing, all the way the fuk back in version 0723 when the day light cycles were added.

Also can we address as well the fact that a lot of us didnt knew how the male seraphims or titans were in the game but them got deleted cause Derelict went full anti-males content but not quite far enought to not keep the game a "just gals" club? Among many other crappy moves like locking previously available content from minute 1 like the sex positions to then having to "unlock" them. I get it doing that woth new races and its even a fun reason to explore the map for, BUT WITH SOMETHING LIKE THE FUKING DRAGONS? Dude, every playthrough I did I almost by the start with no extra quests other than unlocking the spirit form to patch the money gap between what you start with and what you neeeed for it, I went straight to catch dragons and that took me barely a few minutes, catching the first futa foxem I got, selling some fluids, messing with fern a bit and boom. Time to hunt dragons. But even if I couldnt capture them right at the start, I could still fuck with them. Now I meed to find a Wolfuta Scharzeneger on level 4 to give it to the dumb centaur maidem so I can unlock that area to that. Which I didnt fukin had to some versions ago.

Derelict has been making the game worse each update, by going the "1 nice adition vs 10 new inconveniences" each time. So in the end I keep asking myself, why spend time on this game to have my progress being basically frozen a few updates later and instead play something better like Palworld with mods or even continue on my samdbox maps in goddam Wild Life? Where I can build Night fukin City in it if I wanted and the map will load perfectly if I load it on a mew version of it. Amd before you say Wild Life is team made and BotN isnt, BotN IS team made. Is just that Derelict would stab himself on the neck before admiting it but just ask Drages if Im wrong about it. Its crazy how fanboyism blinds people to such levels.

I agree with most of what you said, but just need to point out one little thing for the sake of fairness.
Other devs making old saves unplayable depends on the content. If it's a bug fix or minor changes, you can use old saves. But when they make major changes, a good number of game dev will tell you to start over or the old save file can cause errors. I've personally seen this with: Princess & Conquest, Welcum to the city, Kamesutra, Cloud Meadow and some other games so it's not a Derelict exclusive thing.

However, also for the sake of fairness...I've never seen the need to make a new save for minor changes as much as BotN. Subtracting traits could cause problems, but changing how a trait works, adding traits or changing the icon shouldn't. UI changes also shouldn't corrupt save files. And for as grindy as this game is, fixing the save problem should be a must do.

 

[BMVV]

Is there a way to cheat in certain traits onto your monsters?

 

[yp34]

Is there a way to cheat in certain traits onto your monsters?

Yes
But you need an editor
A modified botn tools can be found in the thread

 

[DoorFive]

Dude you just posted two screenshots and those alone already tells me more of the way you play than the entire pseudo justification you tried to give. Let me be very clear. I find it stupid beyond normal when somone goes with their nephs like "randomite's offspring's offspring offspring offspring the to the infinity and beyondth" since that already tells me you skip half, if not all of the sex interactions IN A GODDAM PORN GAME. Which is a point a lot of you guys keep missing. We dont play a fukin porn game WITH BREEDING to see the stonks numbers rise like if youre building a fukin redstone contraption to them AFK for hours letting it autowork for you. If I wanna create X or Y neph I want it to matter, not to be a random reroll with no meaning at all. Cause if that's what Im after. I play on the creator mode to test the animations and maybe see a possible neph the would be created out of that pairing. Which bring us to the first problem. BotN pretty much only excels on the latter, never the former.

Again, U still sound like if I plan to update an ancient save to a new one when the version update Im jumping into is barely a pair of hotfixes ahead. Funny that you mention other devs' attitudes towards saves compatibility being that Derelict is the only that forces you to start from scratch. And no one else developed a game thats so insanely grindy in nature compared to BotN. EVEN USING CHEATS. I played a lot of tittles, both modded into become lewdy and others designed as lewd omes from scratch and BotN is the only that I remember rhat refuses to load old saves.

The reason I insisted so much on lack of modding and problems with save wipes are precisely tied to both the grind this game naturally have and the stupidity of the dev to allow players load old saves even if they fukin break. Cause Im sorry, even if he doesnt wanma troubleshoot possible old saves loading and breaking things, its still a lazy AF move to pull that again, I only saw Derelict doing. Cause he also shown zero interest in addressimg this very issue since before I started playing, all the way the fuk back in version 0723 when the day light cycles were added.

Also can we address as well the fact that a lot of us didnt knew how the male seraphims or titans were in the game but them got deleted cause Derelict went full anti-males content but not quite far enought to not keep the game a "just gals" club? Among many other crappy moves like locking previously available content from minute 1 like the sex positions to then having to "unlock" them. I get it doing that woth new races and its even a fun reason to explore the map for, BUT WITH SOMETHING LIKE THE FUKING DRAGONS? Dude, every playthrough I did I almost by the start with no extra quests other than unlocking the spirit form to patch the money gap between what you start with and what you neeeed for it, I went straight to catch dragons and that took me barely a few minutes, catching the first futa foxem I got, selling some fluids, messing with fern a bit and boom. Time to hunt dragons. But even if I couldnt capture them right at the start, I could still fuck with them. Now I meed to find a Wolfuta Scharzeneger on level 4 to give it to the dumb centaur maidem so I can unlock that area to that. Which I didnt fukin had to some versions ago.

Derelict has been making the game worse each update, by going the "1 nice adition vs 10 new inconveniences" each time. So in the end I keep asking myself, why spend time on this game to have my progress being basically frozen a few updates later and instead play something better like Palworld with mods or even continue on my samdbox maps in goddam Wild Life? Where I can build Night fukin City in it if I wanted and the map will load perfectly if I load it on a mew version of it. Amd before you say Wild Life is team made and BotN isnt, BotN IS team made. Is just that Derelict would stab himself on the neck before admiting it but just ask Drages if Im wrong about it. Its crazy how fanboyism blinds people to such levels.

I think we shan't be comparing game code with other code. More so, they are like a snowflake in regards to being unique. Sure, you might find snippets of code similar to one another, but as a whole, they all NEED to work together.

One simple syntax error is all it takes to create a domino effect, and Kablam! Suddenly your point of origins are flipped on their axis, or code keeps getting read into other parts because a bracket went missing, or there is not suppose to be a bracket where one is now.

Either bite the bullet, make a new save, or just continue with an older game version.
You cannot have both.
You could, but it will not work correctly.

You really need to understand the inner-workings of a video game. Without looking it up, do you even know what a “String” is?

 

[ArtilleroDelT3485M]

you can't change at all the language, it hasn't been implanted to the game, even if you select Spanish, French, or any other language, the game stay in English

How bad, well we have to adapt

 

[RuneStar]

I think we shan't be comparing game code with other code. More so, they are like a snowflake in regards to being unique. Sure, you might find snippets of code similar to one another, but as a whole, they all NEED to work together.

One simple syntax error is all it takes to create a domino effect, and Kablam! Suddenly your point of origins are flipped on their axis, or code keeps getting read into other parts because a bracket went missing, or there is not suppose to be a bracket where one is now.

Either bite the bullet, make a new save, or just continue with an older game version.
You cannot have both.
You could, but it will not work correctly.

You really need to understand the inner-workings of a video game. Without looking it up, do you even know what a “String” is?

It's hard for people to understand that. Imagine that making a game is that the programming and the code will modify itself

"Ah, so we will add luck? at the touch my king, the code will automatically be fixed"

When this will be
"Now that you have the Luck stat, we will have to modify the appearance variables from color, appearance, appearance, if it is metallic, non-metallic, common or rare? What? you didn't modify then we are no good and we are going to give you errors with "BoTN not responding, can't process code and line 9124358 for lack of data""

"What? play an old savegame!? hahahaha listen to this fool, he thinks that our changes in programming are the same and he will be able to continue playing the same game hahahahahaha No way my king, it's time to exploit the game and make everything corrupt".

 

[DoorFive]

Imagine that making a game is that the programming and the code will modify itself

The scary thing is, we are getting to a point where AI can build the code for you. Modify it, change it, all you have to do is talk to the darn thing, and it can create its own language with whatever parameters you set.
I imagine, you must be incredibly specific for it to work, like, "careful what you wish for --Monkeys Paw--" sort of deal. Might be an exaggeration.

If it is one thing computers can do flawlessly that humans at times have trouble with, it would have to be logic. Logistics are the foundations of computing.
Art might not be it's forte, but something that requires an area of black and white focus would suit it perfectly.
In a scary way.

 

[DoorFive]

Specially when the absurdity of saving the game on version 0.2 and loading it on version 0.3 doesn't work. But saving it on version 0.3 DOES load on 0.2.

Backwards compatibility

 

[Flugelbozz]

The scary thing is, we are getting to a point where AI can build the code for you. Modify it, change it, all you have to do is talk to the darn thing, and it can create its own language with whatever parameters you set.
I imagine, you must be incredibly specific for it to work, like, "careful what you wish for --Monkeys Paw--" sort of deal. Might be an exaggeration.

If it is one thing computers can do flawlessly that humans at times have trouble with, it would have to be logic. Logistics are the foundations of computing.
Art might not be it's forte, but something that requires an area of black and white focus would suit it perfectly.
In a scary way.

Unless the developer plans for it, save games wouldn't be compatible across versions.

Also the AI code will turn up like the AI art. Passable at best. Will need copious amounts of Photoshop (debugging) to make it work. 10s to write the code, 10 hours debugging it.

 

[yp34]

Unless the developer plans for it, save games wouldn't be compatible across versions.

Also the AI code will turn up like the AI art. Passable at best. Will need copious amounts of Photoshop (debugging) to make it work. 10s to write the code, 10 hours debugging it.

It will improve somewhat unlike art the result is binary
It either runs well or it doesn't run at all
I do believe the code one day will be pretty good with an ok programmer fixing some mistakes

 

[Bayronchill]

Any tips or tricks to improve traits a little faster?

 

[yp34]

Any tips or tricks to improve traits a little faster?

Breed nephelim with the same traits
Genetic bottleneck is your friend

 

[RuneStar]

Any tips or tricks to improve traits a little faster?

Combine everything, release. Increase the level of essence, sometimes you will find "Rares" with some trait at level 3.


If you are too lazy to wait in the game for them to have children. Take the easiest option, go home and sleep 3-4 times, they will already be born.

Be careful that now for the versions, incest is not allowed.

 

[yp34]

Combine everything, release. Increase the level of essence, sometimes you will find "Rares" with some trait at level 3.


If you are too lazy to wait in the game for them to have children. Take the easiest option, go home and sleep 3-4 times, they will already be born.

Be careful that now for the versions, incest is not allowed.

You can always turn it on

 

[Bapoch]

Guys, how do I get the bunny girl? Can snakes be obtained or are these two things not implemented yet?