iriemk

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Any features that Nephylem or the MC has can not be transferred to others purely because those features are not a seperate entity.
That I don't believe. Well, I believe they are locked to certain variants, and currently we players cannot access that part of the game. So in that regard, they are inseparable, right.

But mechanically, visually - looking at the female hominal body model, it's basically the same as the breeder. Maybe modfied by some templates like chubby for giants or slimmy for tabbies, but ultimately it's all the same base female body mesh. Only difference is the attachments tacked on to different species & variants. I mean, look at the human-cock futas without any pubic hair to cover the seam, them dickies look like glued-on dildos :D. Really wanna tell me those are intrinsically fixed parts of the respective body models? No way!

Even with current limitations, you can make a bunch of spirit forms with the same base female body as your breeder, but different animal cocks slapped on it, as I worte above. Use neph species that DO have animal cock on hominal form as base, remove all attachments & skin textures, paste human breeder shape & color scheme, fine-tune color & shape, done. Currently has horse, bovaur, foxen, vulwarg, demon and dragon cock on human forms in my spirit form repertoire.

Same goes for all other "attachments" -I count everything that isn't part of base body model under that, arm/leg style, horns, ears, tails, wings, hairstyles, dicks- which could be looked at basically like clothes in an NPCs inventory list. You can already set all of those to "off" or "invisible" in the editor, and with access to the individual NPCs in the code, it would be an easy feat to add or exchange pieces as well.

All I'm trying to say is, technically it shouldn't be too difficult, Dev (or some crafty modder) could likely implement "interspecies dick exchange" feature with a few clicks, like adding piece of clothing or equpiment to an NPCs loot list...so we all know it probably ain't gonna happen anytime soon, right ;)?
 

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Just to check, since the multiple types of protag tags can be confusing. Is this a Pick Your Gender, Your Gender Can Change Over the Story, or a Multiple POV game?
 
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iriemk

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Just to check, since the multiple types of protag tags can be confusing. Is this a Pick Your Gender, Your Gender Can Change Over the Story, or a Multiple POV game?
Would rather say Gender Can Change. All depends on your preferences, and your patience with the Variant Editor.

Can change your character appearance (including gender) at will in-game, only have to visit certain NPCs. Either Camilla (fat little Goblin in Alchemist guild) to change human form or Leylanna (sexy Katsune cleric in the temple) to change spirit (aka Animal) form. Both these two provide an in-game editor interface (basically all same as the character creation screen at game start for the human appearance or the Variant Editor for the animal spirit appearance), but in case of Leylanna without the ability to save edits to the animal spirit appearance.

You can be M, F or Futa in both human or animal spirit form at the click of a button. Just need to take the time and make some good-looking presets for each gender first, which you can then load one-click in these in-game editor interfaces provided by the two aforementioned NPCs. Like changing a skin.

One actual gameplay effect with regard to gender, iffen you change into a male form, is that male nephelym will leave you alone. While iffen you're in futa or female form, they will relentlessly pursue & try to hump you, keeping you from chasing the females & futas you want to actually fool around with ;) .

For all questions regarding Variant Editor and such, check mckHH's guide.
 
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Would rather say Gender Can Change. All depends on your preferences, and your patience with the Variant Editor.

Can change your character appearance (including gender) at will in-game, only have to visit certain NPCs. Either Camilla (fat little Goblin in Alchemist guild) to change human form or Leylanna (sexy Katsune cleric in the temple) to change spirit (aka Animal) form. Both these two provide an in-game editor interface (basically all same as the character creation screen at game start for the human appearance or the Variant Editor for the animal spirit appearance), but in case of Leylanna without the ability to save edits to the animal spirit appearance.

You can be M, F or Futa in both human or animal spirit form at the click of a button. Just need to take the time and make some good-looking presets for each gender first, which you can then load one-click in these in-game editor interfaces provided by the two aforementioned NPCs. Like changing a skin.

One actual gameplay effect with regard to gender, iffen you change into a male form, is that male nephelym will leave you alone. While iffen you're in futa or female form, they will relentlessly pursue & try to hump you, keeping you from chasing the females & futas you want to actually fool around with ;) .

For all questions regarding Variant Editor and such, check mckHH's guide.
I wouldn't consider that gender change tho. You can turn from a human to a nephelym-alike (monstergirl/monsterboy) with the spirit form but you're stuck with whatever gender you initially pick. Tho I'm not sure what the OP exactly refers to when they mention those three possibilities. But like I said, if I had to describe BotN as having one of those. I think the Pick Your Gender fits more.

Tho I think it would be more like pick your sex instead. Maybe? :unsure:
 
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Is there a certain order in which to open each gate? I remember during one of my playthroughs, I went in a certain direction first but it eventually lead me to having to steal a gate key from the giant slime girl under the town in order to progress and then I couldn't do anything with the slime girl again. I was told to avoid that, I have to go in another direction first and after picking certain gates, I forgot which ones, I ran into a dead end. I guess there was a way to continue but I was too lazy and stupid to figure it out. So in order to avoid having to experiment, back track and create a dozen separate saves, can anyone tell me what is the best order to do things?
 

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Is there a certain order in which to open each gate? I remember during one of my playthroughs, I went in a certain direction first but it eventually lead me to having to steal a gate key from the giant slime girl under the town in order to progress and then I couldn't do anything with the slime girl again. I was told to avoid that, I have to go in another direction first and after picking certain gates, I forgot which ones, I ran into a dead end. I guess there was a way to continue but I was too lazy and stupid to figure it out. So in order to avoid having to experiment, back track and create a dozen separate saves, can anyone tell me what is the best order to do things?
I can say there are more than 1, but depend of how you do can get stuck, do bad end with slime girl or good end with happy slime girl. In case wants i added the best order,atleast for me xd:

mckHH's guide (check Story, Keystones, CockBlock Gates > own guide)

 

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My favorite thing about this game is that it has such poor development and version controls that it can't even use a save(without modifying it on the user's end) that is even 0.0000000000000001 different in versions in a game that wants and expects you to do mmo tier grinding just because the dev may or may not have moved an npc 2 units over or fixed a localization error or something that took ten months to do.
 

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For those who can't read RU I used GTranslate but can't confirm accuracy. Only took about 2min tops. Least I could do to help provide to the group.

As a reminder : 0.7X builds are located C:/Users/[yourname]/AppData/Local/OBF/Saved/SaveGames/
Older builds are located C:/Users/[yourname]/AppData/Local/Radiant/Saved/SaveGames/

Does anyone know if I can use the tool to get the exotic appearances or if it is possible to recover the ones removed from the game?

I could see that you can put the traits removed from the game but it is possible that it will exploit your game or end up corrupting it xd
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Does anyone know if I can use the tool to get the exotic appearances or if it is possible to recover the ones removed from the game?

I could see that you can put the traits removed from the game but it is possible that it will exploit your game or end up corrupting it xd
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I tried it by using the Risu race and it work, so yeah I think you can try it by editing in the "Variant Editor" by using the creator code.
 
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Oh yeah btw, about the BotN Tools there is this setting called "Character batch edit" in the tools, it f*ck up my saved file like it erase the nephelym's Form and size in the traits area, oh and just so you know I click the apply and save before exiting the BotN Tools. I hope it will be fixed or updated soon because its tiring to edit trait and stats every nephelyms one by one.✌
 

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I tried it by using the Risu race and it work, so yeah I think you can try it by editing in the "Variant Editor" by using the creator code.
I think I need a more explained guide on that hahaha Actually, a lot of "natural" appearances were removed in the game

And as I was using BoTN tools. I ended up giving upgrades to the characters I had but .... xDD sometimes I end up booting myself.
(I got stuck in the jumping position, can't move, so saving game and loading temporarily fixes it).
 

RuneStar

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Oh yeah btw, about the BotN Tools there is this setting called "Character batch edit" in the tools, it f*ck up my saved file like it erase the nephelym's Form and size in the traits area, oh and just so you know I click the apply and save before exiting the BotN Tools. I hope it will be fixed or updated soon because its tiring to edit trait and stats every nephelyms one by one.✌

Actualizacion:

1- BOTN Tools is useful if you have few monster girls, if you have one of each species, you save yourself the problem and you can even set them as Legendary and make them S rank

2- Using the code to open the creator mode in the game. You can't go back to look for the old monster appearances.


The "underworld" version does not have the wolf because it was removed
The cow has many, the "galaxy" version "Halloween" " LuckyS" " JeanneCorrupted" and the ones that refer to Ice Cream "MntChiciChip" and "Mocha" .... Hell "NinthCircle" "Underworld"
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And I'm too lazy to modify them one by one to create them. xdd
 
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Actualizacion:

1- BOTN Tools is useful if you have few monster girls, if you have one of each species, you save yourself the problem and you can even set them as Legendary and make them S rank

2- Using the code to open the creator mode in the game. You can't go back to look for the old monster appearances.


The "underworld" version does not have the wolf because it was removed
The cow has many, the "galaxy" version "Halloween" " LuckyS" " JeanneCorrupted" and the ones that refer to Ice Cream "MntChiciChip" and "Mocha" .... Hell "NinthCircle" "Underworld"
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And I'm too lazy to modify them one by one to create them. xdd
Yeah I feel you I really want to see them in the game, but they were remove by the creator. Oh yea if any of you will say "You can just create them in the game you know?" Yeah I know but created by yourself and created by the developer has a different feeling. Anyways ✌
 

iriemk

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Oh yeah btw, about the BotN Tools there is this setting called "Character batch edit" in the tools, it f*ck up my saved file like it erase the nephelym's Form and size in the traits area, oh and just so you know I click the apply and save before exiting the BotN Tools. I hope it will be fixed or updated soon because its tiring to edit trait and stats every nephelyms one by one.✌
Ouch! Are you on latest version of BotNTools? If not, check mckHH's guide, he posted link to it a few comments above. And one of the nice things about BotNTools is the backup function. Always use it before making mass edits, messing with traits on your breeder, or on nephs. Messing with traits did break some of my saves too, like trying to make tiny bees or putting horns on my spirit form mare. Didn't end well, none of it :oops:.
 

iriemk

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Yeah I feel you I really want to see them in the game, but they were remove by the creator. Oh yea if any of you will say "You can just create them in the game you know?" Yeah I know but created by yourself and created by the developer has a different feeling. Anyways ✌
Well...isn't there some page that hosts older game versions? Are the olden presets still inside those archives...and would they work on more recent game versions? Downlod old version, unpack, get old presets, copy&paste to new, delete old version....
 
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