Unreal Engine Breeders of the Nephelym [v0.761.53] [DerelictHelmsman]
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I believe there was a save wipe since 753.2. Its inevitable after so many updates it seems. At least we can be lazy sacks for now
- Dec 11, 2019
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I do not know how it works in deep detail and how it has evolved. I did it only twice months ago with some old builds and I never bothered with getting a Titan form; only Angel for female PC and Wulvarg for male.
I can only guess that if it works at all (which the shown screen indicates) it must be related to the Kitsune.
That happens with almost every update and it's not because it has to be that way -- he just hates us.
I have played Corruption of Champions and Trials in Tainted Space since their inception and Fenoxo's team has always migrated the old saves when they had to change the in-game data structures.
- Jun 16, 2017
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Flash vs Unreal. That's a bit of a mountain you just jumped there.
In overall program architecture, sure. But basic data management is basic data management, and forward-safe save handling has existed for longer than Unreal engine. In point of fact, many of the save invalidations done for this game are unnecessary from a save handling perspective, and serve only to force people to run through content from scratch. That said, I can't speak for the recent invalidations, as I haven't poked at the save handling since just after DH wrapped up with the progression content. And that had a mountain of unnecessary save invalidations in it.
I think you understand this wrong. This isn't a save game invalidation, he changes constructs of the player, the houses, the npcs and so on. If an array has to be converted to a new one, this is often a lot of work, since you have to do it for the whole savegame. If you do this in a team, you can ask somebody else to write this code. But the new save game must fit to the new features, since he codes alone, he skips that part. Why not, it's not that it isn't fun to reopen all the game, just playing the game after you finished it already, what is the long term goal after all?
God the animations of this game suck. All that clipping has ruined it for me.
Also the sex positions are garbage. I mean when i heard i needed to unlock sex positions i was expecting some exotic positions, instead i found the most vanilla positions known to man such as missionary and cowgirl.
Too bad because the design and the gameplay are good, but the lack of good sex scenes is a no no for me.
They should take some lessons from Wild life
Also the sex positions are garbage. I mean when i heard i needed to unlock sex positions i was expecting some exotic positions, instead i found the most vanilla positions known to man such as missionary and cowgirl.
Too bad because the design and the gameplay are good, but the lack of good sex scenes is a no no for me.
They should take some lessons from Wild life
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Sounds like you'd be better off playing Wild Life then.
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Personally I think the fact that the portals don't open until very late game isn't so good. These days I just grab two or three from each zone and breed those because I know I'll get what I'm looking for eventually.
Also, having to put up with Doggy for about 33% of the game does eventually get boring and trying to speedrun until you get the portals is next to impossible.
Pawsmaati's temple is just too far out of the way to routinely go without a portal. As is the field with the Gobbos.
I'd either scrap her intent (reuse her for another mid-game purpose) and use the alt positions as quest rewards or bring her a wee bit closer.
The barns could also do with being more expensive. Right now you could fill your Vulwarg jars and sell them and have enough money from just that to buy every barn that Cassie can build for you. I'm not suggesting they cost thousands to the point of being so expensive as to make them unafforadable.
Higher prices or lock Amber-Mae and Camilla's shops behind character-specific quests - and no, not "Bring me a twenty foot Bovaur with ZZZ cup tits" style quests. Something meaningful to that character would be best.
Right now, all Amber-Mae and Camilla care about is milk and semen respectively. Something along those lines, perhaps?
He could bring back the old model for Amber-Mae and have her transformation be the end result. This would also open her shop.
She does love Bovaur Milk, after all.
Camilla seems sexually frustrated. She likes being the town toy but I think having instant access to it isn't the best.
That could be the goal she wants. If she isn't in the pillory the following day, she'd open the shop for you.
On another note, I wish Cassie could knock up my Breeder.
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I understand unreal save handling just fine, and the specific portion I called out was the series of updates where he was adding progression. What changed in saves during that? Nothing. Literally nothing changed. Specifically, the progress gates are handled via global true/false flags. If you've done the thing, it gets added to the save as a string in a list. If you haven't done the thing, it doesn't exist in the save, at all, in any shape or form. (From a technical perspective, unreal handles it so that the flag is true if in the list, and false if not in the list) There is precisely one flag in that list in a new game, and it's for Fern's first stage.
So, given the knowledge that the different game versions during progression updates were actually compatible with each other, what reasons could exist for invalidating saves?
- Force testers to run through the full progression each time, thus ensuring a larger range of testing and higher likelihood that someone encounters a flaw in the setup.
- Ensure that players who encountered a flaw in the setup and got locked out of prior progression are locked out and forced to start a new save where that will presumably not happen again.
- Spite
And, just to be clear: if he is changing game critical save arrays every single time the game updates? That's not exactly a good sign. The only time those should be getting updates with that degree of frequency is when a prototype is so new that the save format itself (and its interaction with the core systems) is still actively being built. That's not the kind of thing that should be relevant in the case of a changelog like:
Fluids display: That's a rendering/ui change, fluids have been in save format for ages.
Hotkey: that's a hardcoded hotkey to activate new UI. Nothing tied to saves
List sorting: Technically this could involve sorting them in the save too, but if you need to change your save format to sort a list, you really shouldn't be in gamedev. (It also doesn't need to change the format, the nephelym are stored in a list in the save and their order in said list is largely irrelevant)
Details display: yet another UI change. Nothing tied to save format.
Project rename: this involves a fair chunk of technical interaction between parts of the compiled/exported project, but if the save is involved here literally all that would need to change is the filename. (And generally, the save isn't part of this specific issue aside)
Copy and paste: yet another user interface change. No bearing on save formats, just on what the player can do.
Mega slime dialogue: this could theoretically impact saves, but everything tied to the mega slime is a global flag like the ones I mentioned above. Adding new dialogue choices or progression paths tied to the mega slime literally just boils down to adding a new flag and then setting up when and how it interacts with the dialogue. It would honestly be more work to invalidate the save and reset how the dialogue works overall than to fix it in a forward-safe manner that wouldn't invalidate saves.
And if a bugfix is big enough to warrant breaking changes in save handling, it's big enough to be spelled out instead of relegated to a "fixed miscellaneous bugs" note.
TL/DR: Derelict has a history of literally unnecessary save invalidation, so I am not inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt when saves are incompatible with a new version and nothing overtly related to saves has changed.
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Still waiting on Steam to get the OBF version update. Considering it just got 0.753.0, it will probably take some time.
I know that I can play it without Steam as it isn't tied to the platform.
I know that I can play it without Steam as it isn't tied to the platform.
Well your words are quite harsh, considering, that they come in a forum, that offers his game for free. If I would have your negative opinion about this game, I would choose one of two options:
1. Play another game
2. IF I'd know the Unreal engine that good, I'd make a better game.
So, what's it gonna be?
Cheers,
Kee.
I chose both, actually. But I keep personal and professional lives separate, which is why the latter isn't something that shows up here.
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Hello, can someone share a pack with up-to-date presets?
I used to have most presets that were shared on DH discord but took a break on the game and recently I came back
BTW seems like not much progress has been made lol
I used to have most presets that were shared on DH discord but took a break on the game and recently I came back
BTW seems like not much progress has been made lol
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Meaty (muscle) and Slender I'm not sure of but Buxom and Busty are. I'm going to go and say that slender and meaty is a possible combination. My one slender is pregnant right now so I can't attempt to verify.