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Do traits of released nephs affect zones? stats? or just levels?

Conversations i had with the dev in early development had traits become more common in zones after releasing a neph with that trait there but im wondering if that became a thing.
From what I've seen, the only thing affecting neph generation is the world level. Traits and levels only matter insofar as they increase the world level. I think it'd be much better if you could shape the world like that, but it doesn't seem to be the case.
 
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b00marrows

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Jeez been reading back through the thread, i can see why development has been more wonky than ever. Listening to the "community" has likely done more damage to the development than helped, especially in balance aspects and beggars.

Additionally a lot of the issues people seems to have (save files and camera for example) are engine based, something Dere would likely have to create a new version of to improve which is a MASSIVE undertaking. To make things worse the time spent attempting to update to the newer IE has been a multi month undertaking and a massive kick in the nuts.
For an example, think like minecraft version updates on mods, but 1000X deeper as its every single aspect of the game and not just a mod.

*Sigh* anyway.

From what I've seen, the only thing affecting neph generation is the world level. Traits and levels only matter insofar as they increase the world level. I think it'd be much better if you could shape the world like that, but it doesn't seem to be the case.
Well good time to test it. Gonna do a bunch of breeding and release like 10 nephs with the same Trait and see if i can find anything.
Tho logically/programming end i suspect that is the case already that it wont have an effect as it would be a massive undertaking to implement such a thing.

Edit: Yeah...
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This er... might be substantial.
 
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Dirgha

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I open many places and I think I need elves and it can be found near goblin. But How I get there?? I out of key and no one holding one.
Have you completed the Orc Chieftain's Xena quest?

And, in case you missed some other pathways, here's the walkthrough:
 

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yea I already finish the goblin. I think there is some sort of maid at the jungle/neko that I havent found yet. I going to find her

the guide literally like I been playing the wrong way the whole time. I unlock the gate that closet to me but now I must following order? dat no good game design
 

Arkanaaa

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I'm not talking about coloring, but about changing the wardrobe of other pants or a completely different T-shirt
Sorry was absent from this site (Real life full up the fridge), so yes most of options on right side are to color... I will check but I think (pretty sure last option ; so bottom of right column make some effect transforming skin etc, and clothes too...)
But once again, I check it and come back to you if I find it (I already made a change , it is why I post you that answer, but I can be wrong where it has to be done)
 

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yea I already finish the goblin. I think there is some sort of maid at the jungle/neko that I havent found yet. I going to find her

the guide literally like I been playing the wrong way the whole time. I unlock the gate that closet to me but now I must following order? dat no good game design
It definitely is not good design. That is what happens when you add restrictions in at a late stage rather than plan for them at the beginning.

For what it is worth, I unlocked the gates in the absolute worst possible order and should have been locked out of the main progression areas twice. Thankfully, the worlds invisible walls are fallible and you can skyrim your way around the problem gates (even with fall damage) through skillful hopping.
 
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Are you saying your player character has all the traits on it? If so, how did you do that? I went looking to do that myself but could only find a years old out of date hex editor
If you mean how to breed Monsters with your MC yourself you need to choose one and make her something along the lines of "the Matriarch" of her respective kennel before breeding
 

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I foound her. She literally on the path that I must turn back. Basically hide away. Even with some light I would mistake as ambient. naked2.PNG
 
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If you mean how to breed Monsters with your MC yourself you need to choose one and make her something along the lines of "the Matriarch" of her respective kennel before breeding
I'm talking about using this or hex edit to give your player characters desirable traits. It doesn't seem like anyone's done that in quite a while though as that program crashes when it tries to load one of the modern saves and the old method of hex editing results in an unplayable file.
 

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I'm talking about using this or hex edit to give your player characters desirable traits. It doesn't seem like anyone's done that in quite a while though as that program crashes when it tries to load one of the modern saves and the old method of hex editing results in an unplayable file.
Which is very common for 3rd party mod tools and the main reason so few people even attempt to use them
 

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Are you saying your player character has all the traits on it? If so, how did you do that? I went looking to do that myself but could only find a years old out of date hex editor
Unfortunately the developer( DerelictHelmsman) hasn't added any legal way to get traits. And the Hex editor is not the most convenient thing, no, I did it through the save editor. Search in this thread, someone posted it, and the screenshot is an example of what I have selected.
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If you guys really wanted to cheat like that time might be better spent building a cheat engine table with each build (less work more modular, easier to make)
Building a mono/pointer table for the selected neph/player could be useful and potentially usable between versions.
 

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NulNil's Guide to (legitimate) Legendary Hybrids
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Important Information:
  • Home-bred creatures have "points" that determine what their rarity (Common, Rare, Legendary) is, which are based off what traits and stat ranks they have.
  • These points are added up to determine the rarity of the creature, but only if they are home-bred.
  • Naturally generated creatures have their titles determined before stat/trait application, so you may end up with legendaries that have one S-stat and 2's in all traits.
  • Honestly those first 3 were all speculated, so take it with a grain of salt.
  • If parent A has Breasts 3, but Parent B does not, the offspring will likely only have Breasts 1.
  • Spirit form can be used to get offspring of that form, instead of always have the other parent's race when manually breeding.
  • For the sake of RNG, disable pregnancy (makes offspring instant) and set the world to futa only. Your breeder can be whatever gender though.
Step 1: You and Preferences
If you don't know, Desire is a birth trait given to any offspring who's parent is the breeder (you). If you just look at, it doesn't look like it means anything. However, each prefence (at most 5 types) will give buffs for each one leveled up. Preferences can be changed early on (before 2nd rank), and each breeding session will raise that type of preference by 1 (Charm 3 gives 1.4), which maxes out at 120.
  • Likes [Gender] [Race Variant]: Inceases chance to pass on traits.
  • Likes [Body Trait]: Decreases lust lost from breeding.
  • Likes [Size]: Increases EXP gained (Something like that)
  • Likes [Position]: Increase EXP gained
  • Likes [Name]: Higher chance to increase stat levels on offspring.
The most important are Person and Varient preference, as those will increase the chance of a better offspring. With these 2 maxed out, you have 20% higher chance to pass traits on to offspring and 4% chance to increase stats to offspring, and these stack with nuturing and potent.

Onto the actual doing stuff part, your first offspring should be with you (the breeder) and either race of the hybrid. The offspring should have a high amount of preferences, though which doesn't matter. Reccomended traits are potent and any genital traits. You don't need a legendary to be the other parent.

Step 2: Build-up
You will need many (2-4) legendaries of the first race, good ones too. Traits are more important than stat ranks, and your general target should be 11-13 total trait tiers (i.e 3 Fertile, 3 Busty, 3 Hung, 2 Muscle). Keep in mind which traits are common for both races. Breed as you see fit to get as many tier 2-3 traits as possible, while keeping the desire trait. Try keeping it to one per "generation", with the best being the next parent of the next offspring. If you are hitting legendaries, you are probably ready.

Step 3: Final Specimen
Once you think you're ready, you'll need to start breeding for the final offspring before the hybrid. All you really need is a high-end unique with both Varient and Person desires. You'll then need to breed them with any charm-3 nephylem to max out their desire ranks. Finally, you'll need a legendary (that's good, like the ones in step 2) of the other race to breed with the final specimen for the hybrid. If you are seeing rare offspring frequently, you probably need to do more of step 2. If you are seeing legendary offspring, then it is definitely possible to get a legendary hybrid.

Current legendaries I have obtained from this method:
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