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KnuckleDragger79

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someone who uses cheats on literally every videogame tries to actually play one legitimately for once and then writes a literal essay on why it's too much of a chore for them

and this is on a porn game of all things
The only time I use cheats in a game is if a scene does not trigger when it is supposed to. Anything more than that kills the game for me.

Mods, on the other hand, I play games with a lot of those. Most of the time I will play a game all the way through vanilla, than add mods to make the game harder. I love a challenge and the reward after a long struggle.
 

RubyZeronyka

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The only time I use cheats in a game is if a scene does not trigger when it is supposed to. Anything more than that kills the game for me.

Mods, on the other hand, I play games with a lot of those. Most of the time I will play a game all the way through vanilla, than add mods to make the game harder. I love a challenge and the reward after a long struggle.
Funny that you mention the whole "Respecting the devs vision" thing then you come with the idea of bringing mods which essentially alter the base gameplay experience. But again, like you also said. To each their own :ROFLMAO:
 

RubyZeronyka

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Btw while testing some things. I saw that the changed main character appearence option was gone for the whole UI overhaul thingy. By accident I found that that option that on the previous update showed up when you went to home (Same way you did to go to sleep) is now with Camila. For some reason she now is able to change your human appearence. So if someone starts a gameplay, wants to change their human look but cant figure out how, talk to her and youll be able just fine ^^
 

Spillthebeans

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Like I said: Instant gratification. That is what your argument sums up to. But hey, to each their own.
This game still doesn't have good gameplay. I've been playing this game (on and off) longer than you've been a member of this website, I've unlocked the gates an embarrassing number of times, likely more than you ever will. After a certain point you just want to get to the meat and potatoes of the game which at this point is mixing offspring to get unusual variants. Cheating in this game isn't the same as in your standard game where you could be handicapping the experience just for a dopamine hit, you're not actually skipping anything of value by cheating. The only thing you bypass is a bunch of walking and the tedium of grinding out the correct traits on a neph to give to a chick so she can open a gate. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're rather new to this game as I could see why you would think like this if you haven't played the game very much.

Even still, who cares? If someone wants to skip everything by cheating that's their own business and if the dev didn't want us to cheat, I'm not sure if you know him well but he would not only not give us cheats to work with but he would do every thing in his power to make sure we couldn't.
 

RubyZeronyka

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This game still doesn't have good gameplay. I've been playing this game (on and off) longer than you've been a member of this website, I've unlocked the gates an embarrassing number of times, likely more than you ever will. After a certain point you just want to get to the meat and potatoes of the game which at this point is mixing offspring to get unusual variants. Cheating in this game isn't the same as in your standard game where you could be handicapping the experience just for a dopamine hit, you're not actually skipping anything of value by cheating. The only thing you bypass is a bunch of walking and the tedium of grinding out the correct traits on a neph to give to a chick so she can open a gate. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're rather new to this game as I could see why you would think like this if you haven't played the game very much.

Even still, who cares? If someone wants to skip everything by cheating that's their own business and if the dev didn't want us to cheat, I'm not sure if you know him well but he would not only not give us cheats to work with but he would do every thing in his power to make sure we couldn't.
This is part of what I meant. Like, dude, if you played since when I started which was a bit before the very first interactions of the day/night cycle aditions, you didnt had cockblock gates, you didnt had Pawsmatti, you didnt had to unlock more than just the barns and quite honestly to me it made sense to have the barns limitations cause barns are the only thing I ever spend ingame money for in a bunch of gameplays.

Back then your concern after starting a fresh playthrough was, to get enough money to buy the remaining barns cause you started with enough to buy the foxy and wolfy ones with some bits of milk and semen in case you run out of lust or simply wanna catch a neph you dont wanna sex. You go back to the barn, harvest their fluids, get some money, buy the remaining barns then go catch the nephs you wanted and started to seek specific pregnancies so you could get the hybrids you were looking for. Then focus on getting the remaining ones, then improving the nephs qualities, etc. But that gameplay loop felt already nice and mind you, it took some work. Specially to unlock the more expensive barns like the Seraphim's but it felt like that work was worth it. Specially when you finally got some Seraphim hybrids like the Daevas.

However now to get any Demon related hybrid takes entire real life days non stop of grind to be able to get it in a single playthorugh. And we have to remember one key aspect in all of this. SAVE WIPES. Every X amount of versions Derelict decides to make the new game version to refuse to load all saves so it means starting all over again. Seriously. I dont know a single person that I explained to them the gameplay loop of BotN that got hooked into wanting to play it. Even soulslike fans for one single reason. They all agree that challenging or grindy, a work process needs to be worth it but specially be something you can keep. Not something youll totally lose 3 updates later unless you stick to an old version.
 

Squark ⚧❤️

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To anyone complaining about bugs:
This is an EARLY build, released before even the TESTING build came out.
The test branch would have caught everything that's been said thus far.

One thing I do like about this build: The Pregnancy stat now slowly ticks up at a rate of one point per second.
Sleeping will make it jump forward by an appropriate amount. No sudden chonking anymore.

But there is no way I can find of viewing player stats outside of using the Breeding Pen. And like some here, I am still left waiting for Breeder Traits.
I don't know if anyone noticed but every trait is marked as (WIP) now. Meaning he's not done tooling about with this yet.
 

RubyZeronyka

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Any way to make old savedata in te new save?
I would suggest the method I've been using so far recently that is Save Edit Online. But with all the things that have changed in the game I wonder if the game would be able to properly load a converted save. The process is kinda simple but.... Just be warned XD
 

Puma1978

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Since the old saves do not work does anyone know how the cheat console can get activated in this version and what codes are available? The old way doesnt work anymore...
 

RubyZeronyka

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Since the old saves do not work does anyone know how the cheat console can get activated in this version and what codes are available? The old way doesnt work anymore...
U need to use the "~" key to make the dialogue box to come out. But mind you, you need to have your keyboard with a US English layout to make it happen otherwise it wont work. There's a way to change it if your keyboard by default is not like that.
 
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slick97

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Any way to make old savedata in te new save?
Most likely no. There is a save editor posted several pages back (just use the search function to find it) which you can use to recreate your character stats and the nephelym you had, but DH usually breaks old saves every time he releases an update.
 

Puma1978

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U need to use the "~" key to make the dialogue box to come out. But mind you, you need to have your keyboard with a US English layout to make it happen otherwise it wont work. There's a way to change it if your keyboard by default is not like that.
Thank you mate....saved my day and a lot of work to open all gates again...so the codes are still the same i hope..?
 
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