Unreal Engine Breeders of the Nephelym [v0.761.53] [DerelictHelmsman]

[Majordeathwish]

Ok so in spirit mode character creation I can't move hair anymore. This is a big problem, as the hair on the vulwargs always looks shit, because apparently placing hair is hard. So hard that I was able to fix it with a few tweaks to the hair sliders, but they don't exist anymore apparently. The new semen and milk system also blows ass.

 

[arcader000]

Ok so in spirit mode character creation I can't move hair anymore. This is a big problem, as the hair on the vulwargs always looks shit, because apparently placing hair is hard. So hard that I was able to fix it with a few tweaks to the hair sliders, but they don't exist anymore apparently. The new semen and milk system also blows ass.

?????

 

[arcader000]

Originally, I thought the aptitude thing was level based, but then I went 12 levels without gaining any stat points and I noticed my aptitude went up while breeding without a level up involved. There's definitely something else involved besides the partner's stats, no clue what though... Maybe traits? My stock has like no traits as a result of continuous homebreeding.

After some experiments in a couple different saves I think I have an idea.

Pretty consistently it would just go up in rank after having sex a couple of times after the first two stats got raised, however I had been focusing on having her mate with as many d ranks I had so its possible it'll go up after x amount of times of fuckin in the breeding yard.

 

[foolsend]

has anyone worked out how to get essence level 5?

 

[Dalkosh]

After some experiments in a couple different saves I think I have an idea.
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Pretty consistently it would just go up in rank after having sex a couple of times after the first two stats got raised, however I had been focusing on having her mate with as many d ranks I had so its possible it'll go up after x amount of times of fuckin in the breeding yard.

Yeah, I agree, I think it follows a set order too? Like first fertility, then libido and then aptitude maybe

 

[arcader000]

Fert an libido seemed to improve after a neph is born but I've been restartin a goofy amount of times so might as well do it one more time. This time I'll have her fuck exclusively d rank libidos

 

[ola amigo]

Instead of adding new things the dev should concentrate on improving things like
1. Separate barns for Slyvans and Hybrids, Slyvans have like 4 races bunched up in one, Hydrid races are so many that bunching them up is just straight up limiting. This game is about fucking isn't it? So why limit this? I don't need new race, just give me space dang it!
2. Let the players know through a tutorial how traits are transferred with levels, at this point I don't think new players understand at all how trait transfer works in the offspring if you want to maintain the same level of that trait. I mean dev literally gave an end game quest, The Pride quest with no explanation to the player how trait or multi trait transfer works, what's the probability, etc.
3. The new essence thing is even more complicated that earlier on how World level should be raised. I know there is cheat for it but for player who want to complete this through proper gameplay this is just torture.
4. Naming of the offspring in the barn itself as the mother gets pregnant. Old school game mechanic, very liked by players but removed by dev.
5. The lust of the player character is too low, so low instead of a fucking game its more like a sleeping game. I mean how many times do I need to sleep? I go to gather a wild neph, I gather some, see a good one, want to capture it but guess what? It's time for bed!!!! WTF!

So that was a bit of vent. Yes, but some suggestions that are almost as old as the game. I don't see them getting solved because of how stubborn the dev is, but I like this game so I'm hopeful.

 

[ola amigo]

So run 2.5 also landed me with a 555 right from start but more importantly View attachment 2983643
She's got huge dick energy gotta say

I just gave up trying to understand the spawn or the trait and multi trait transfer mechanic in this game. Just came to terms with it.

 

[ninjahedgehog]

Instead of adding new things the dev should concentrate on improving things like
1. Separate barns for Slyvans and Hybrids, Slyvans have like 4 races bunched up in one, Hydrid races are so many that bunching them up is just straight up limiting. This game is about fucking isn't it? So why limit this? I don't need new race, just give me space dang it!

seperating the sylvans I can get behind only because grouping goblins with elves is a little silly. But seperate barns for each hybrids would be pretty taxing. I say instead make filtering the hybrids possible. We really don't need 20 more barns crowding the homestead

 

[arcader000]

Instead of adding new things the dev should concentrate on improving things like
1. Separate barns for Slyvans and Hybrids, Slyvans have like 4 races bunched up in one, Hydrid races are so many that bunching them up is just straight up limiting. This game is about fucking isn't it? So why limit this? I don't need new race, just give me space dang it!
2. Let the players know through a tutorial how traits are transferred with levels, at this point I don't think new players understand at all how trait transfer works in the offspring if you want to maintain the same level of that trait. I mean dev literally gave an end game quest, The Pride quest with no explanation to the player how trait or multi trait transfer works, what's the probability, etc.
3. The new essence thing is even more complicated that earlier on how World level should be raised. I know there is cheat for it but for player who want to complete this through proper gameplay this is just torture.
4. Naming of the offspring in the barn itself as the mother gets pregnant. Old school game mechanic, very liked by players but removed by dev.
5. The lust of the player character is too low, so low instead of a fucking game its more like a sleeping game. I mean how many times do I need to sleep? I go to gather a wild neph, I gather some, see a good one, want to capture it but guess what? It's time for bed!!!! WTF!

So that was a bit of vent. Yes, but some suggestions that are almost as old as the game. I don't see them getting solved because of how stubborn the dev is, but I like this game so I'm hopeful.

Its an alpha so I understand focusing on the core systems over polish, from the sound of it the essence system makes way more sense and in the spirit of the game then what came before. Its just due to the lack of polish they neglected to include dialogue explaining it, and honestly I don't even need exact amounts just a general direction would be enough.

The trait mechanic is pretty straight forward, dice roll to see which traits is transferred and if both parents have the trait then its basically guaranteed.

The stats are the same, if parent a has fef and the other eff the offspring will probably be eef. Its just the MC has its own rules, and as far as I can tell if the MC has a kid with a higher stat then them, upon birth the mc's stat will increase. So fff mc fucks fef upon birth there's a chance MC will become fef.

Its just I found the third stat aptitude increasing in MC without doing that, so I did some experiments and I'm fairly certain it's following its own rule of just fucking a bunch and it'll improve. Which given its a stat about being good at fucking makes sense.

The limited lust in mc is def limiting, however MC makes for a mediocre stud right now anyway. Once they figure out the system they want to use to let us apply traits to them is when it'll really matter, but for now I basically only fuck the npcs and the wild nephs to add to the harem (winning the sexoff doesn't drain lust luckily). I hadn't been doing it for the sake of nailing down aptitude but when you fuck vagrants lust is only drained upon impregnation or if you fuckin someone with higher stats then you.

 

[defnotalt]

Decided to test this a little bit in my sleep deprived state and can verify and go one step further. View attachment 2983848
Both getting knocked up and doing the knocking up raised the rank, which makes sense however somehow I managed to get aptitude to up a rank despite not having anybody with D or greater aptitude. So there's an extra variable at work here it seems.

Originally, I thought the aptitude thing was level based, but then I went 12 levels without gaining any stat points and I noticed my aptitude went up while breeding without a level up involved. There's definitely something else involved besides the partner's stats, no clue what though... Maybe traits? My stock has like no traits as a result of continuous homebreeding.

These are my stats after basically finishing game progression:



While XP farming by breeding, I noticed that my 3 stats all slowly got better at certain intervals, and seem now soft capped at rank C (it hasn't increased for a while). Unfortunately I didn't properly check the breeding partners, but I do know that my best breeds are C rank too, so it sort of checks out?

Maybe I'll try to further breed and see if I eventually get a rank B without a C partner, and then check with one. This game gets more confusing and convoluted every time I check for an update...

 

[arcader000]

These are my stats after basically finishing game progression:

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While XP farming by breeding, I noticed that my 3 stats all slowly got better at certain intervals, and seem now soft capped at rank C (it hasn't increased for a while). Unfortunately I didn't properly check the breeding partners, but I do know that my best breeds are C rank too, so it sort of checks out?

Maybe I'll try to further breed and see if I eventually get a rank B without a C partner, and then check with one. This game gets more confusing and convoluted every time I check for an update...

This is the result of Piper exclusively having sex with Lykos with D rank Libidos, did not happen upon birth like I initially though but all three were after the deed. So my assumption now is that your character has a chance to gain the stat rank of whatever they bang, but if the best stat is already there it'll boost one of the other two instead.
I got my doubts on it going beyond but I got 6 d rank libidos on lock so we'll see.

Edit: I ran it enough that I think I can safely say you can't go beyond the largest rank you have on hand, or at least not within reason. Usually took 4-6 sessions for the rank to go up, however I've had her go at it for well past three dozen times at this point. Which I expected but its good to check.

 

[eldereye]

Looks like the Breeder's stats increase by level rather than breeding with higher-rank nephelym. Doing that will give increased experience and result in faster leveling but doesn't affect the stat gains. I've got A/A/A and 90/90/90 at level 100.

A few people mentioned getting higher-tier traits by breeding the same-tier trait. I wasn't able to get this to work. Out about 60 attempts breeding two Foxen, each with tier 1 swiftness and nothing else, I got 30 offspring with tier 1 swiftness and none with tier 2 swiftness. I gave up after that.

 

[arcader000]

Looks like the Breeder's stats increase by level rather than breeding with higher-rank nephelym. Doing that will give increased experience and result in faster leveling but doesn't affect the stat gains. I've got A/A/A and 90/90/90 at level 100.

A few people mentioned getting higher-tier traits by breeding the same-tier trait. I wasn't able to get this to work. Out about 60 attempts breeding two Foxen, each with tier 1 swiftness and nothing else, I got 30 offspring with tier 1 swiftness and none with tier 2 swiftness. I gave up after that.

That's odd, my tests been showing my stats increasing regardless of level. Unless it's a threshold system where once your past a certain level stat ranks up again after fucking.

The trait method works but its very uncommon. I'm willin to bet below 10% chance.

 

[eldereye]

That's odd, my tests been showing my stats increasing regardless of level. Unless it's a threshold system where once your past a certain level stat ranks up again after fucking.

Could be that I mistook one for the other. If I only used the same BBB with Kindhearted the whole time, then my stat tier would have been increasing at a constant rate, just like my level.

The trait method works but its very uncommon. I'm willin to bet below 10% chance.

I knuckled down and did a full another test. I used two different Foxen, both with T1 Swift. It took 132 breeding successes to get 100 offspring with Swift, so I'm guessing there's about a 75% chance to pass it on when both parents have it. None of the 100 got an upgrade. Maybe I got unlucky, maybe the chance lower than 10%, or maybe there's some other factor.

 

[maustro]

I knuckled down and did a full another test. I used two different Foxen, both with T1 Swift. It took 132 breeding successes to get 100 offspring with Swift, so I'm guessing there's about a 75% chance to pass it on when both parents have it. None of the 100 got an upgrade. Maybe I got unlucky, maybe the chance lower than 10%, or maybe there's some other factor.

What version are you on? I couldn't breed any tier 2 traits on 95A version, but on 97A it has been reasonably quick.

 

[rzkr]

can anyone share their character presets?

 

[Drages]

Its an alpha

You know it's an alpha for 6 years, right? Don't fall that "alpha", it's just an excuse to have a broken game.

 

[abdulah7]

A few people mentioned getting higher-tier traits by breeding the same-tier trait. I wasn't able to get this to work. Out about 60 attempts breeding two Foxen, each with tier 1 swiftness and nothing else, I got 30 offspring with tier 1 swiftness and none with tier 2 swiftness. I gave up after that.

I don't have pictures but I can confirm that I've gotten this to work for at least Hornball and Kindhearted. By breeding parents who both had either at lv1, I've gotten offspring who had it at lv2. By breeding parents who both had both at lv1, I've even gotten offspring who had both at lv2. That was on 0.760.97A.

It does seem rather rare, though. I've been exclusively breeding nephs with at least one, ideally both, of those traits as part of a plan to powerlevel, and I've gotten like 3 offspring with lv2. I'd estimate the chance to be <5%.

 

[arcader000]

Could be that I mistook one for the other. If I only used the same BBB with Kindhearted the whole time, then my stat tier would have been increasing at a constant rate, just like my level.


I knuckled down and did a full another test. I used two different Foxen, both with T1 Swift. It took 132 breeding successes to get 100 offspring with Swift, so I'm guessing there's about a 75% chance to pass it on when both parents have it. None of the 100 got an upgrade. Maybe I got unlucky, maybe the chance lower than 10%, or maybe there's some other factor.

Insane bad luck, in my testin the last week I've had it happen about a dozen times.

can anyone share their character presets?

Here's mine, its more fun to make your own but if your stumped on good value just peep the other presets an copy and paste the values you like into your own.

You know it's an alpha for 6 years, right? Don't fall that "alpha", it's just an excuse to have a broken game.

Length of dev time isn't really a factor, especially with essentially a solo dev with contracted helpers. You say its a broken game but I haven't noticed any game breaking bugs or even crashed which is more then I can say for some fully released games lmfao.