TheInternetIsForThis

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Don't go on Unreal 5 folks, it's terrible in performance and the visual changes respect Unreal 4 aren't worth the performance tanking it takes
The same thing could be said about UE4 versus UE3, or UE3 versus UE2, or UE2 versus UE1. But that's because updates and improvements are incremental. People just dunk on UE5 because this is the first time a major version has dropped since it became available to indie-level developers, and a ton of indie devs are doing an abysmal job of assessing and understanding the fact that a major version means breaking changes that need to be properly accounted for. The more committed your project already is to an existing engine, the worse the update will hit you.

Also, sweeping generalizations about performance and visual changes are, well. Sweeping generalizations. That isn't to say you're wrong in the case of Breeders of the Nephelym. Derelict has demonstrated either an inability or an unwillingness to actually utilize the optimization potential in UE4, so upgrading to UE5 with that attitude will probably make things far worse. A properly optimized UE5 game will, like a properly optimized UE4 game, run just fine on far more machines than people on this forum would assume.
 

RubyZeronyka

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The same thing could be said about UE4 versus UE3, or UE3 versus UE2, or UE2 versus UE1. But that's because updates and improvements are incremental. People just dunk on UE5 because this is the first time a major version has dropped since it became available to indie-level developers, and a ton of indie devs are doing an abysmal job of assessing and understanding the fact that a major version means breaking changes that need to be properly accounted for. The more committed your project already is to an existing engine, the worse the update will hit you.

Also, sweeping generalizations about performance and visual changes are, well. Sweeping generalizations. That isn't to say you're wrong in the case of Breeders of the Nephelym. Derelict has demonstrated either an inability or an unwillingness to actually utilize the optimization potential in UE4, so upgrading to UE5 with that attitude will probably make things far worse. A properly optimized UE5 game will, like a properly optimized UE4 game, run just fine on far more machines than people on this forum would assume.
What I mean is that the changes in comparison feel worse. For example in Wild Life. After they switched to Unreal 5 the lighting feels super off, like it suddenly the entire game is constantly on a dimm light setting even on the brightest presets. While graphic wise the game feels pretty similar in comparison, but the performance? Far worse. And it's not the only game I noticed that did that version jump that ended up feeling the same way.
 

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They will not be going to unreal 5. They also might back out of mod support even though they said that they would have mod support for V 1.0 This is was on their discord which is full of shill elitists who will ban anyone who talks about the supporter version outside the wrong channel.
 
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TheInternetIsForThis

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What I mean is that the changes in comparison feel worse. For example in Wild Life. After they switched to Unreal 5 the lighting feels super off, like it suddenly the entire game is constantly on a dimm light setting even on the brightest presets. While graphic wise the game feels pretty similar in comparison, but the performance? Far worse. And it's not the only game I noticed that did that version jump that ended up feeling the same way.
Wild Life is a fantastic example for why BotN should never update, because the Wild Life devs have a similar ability (or desire) to optimize their game properly. Which is effectively none at all. Even on UE4 it was always a poorly optimized mess, just like BotN. Simultaneously, it's a terrible example of UE5 games for precisely the same reason: the devs made a mess of the port and then shifted blame to the engine change.
 

Badaxe93

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They will not be going to unreal 5. They also might back out of mod support even though they said that they would have mod support for V 1.0 This is was on their discord which is full of shill elitists who will ban anyone who talks about the supporter version outside the wrong channel.
We don't ban people from talking outside the wrong channel. We just remind them to use the supporter channel
 

RubyZeronyka

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They will not be going to unreal 5. They also might back out of mod support even though they said that they would have mod support for V 1.0 This is was on their discord which is full of shill elitists who will ban anyone who talks about the supporter version outside the wrong channel.
Dang now mod support is being trashed too? Fukin hell m8 things keep getting worse by the day on this game.
 

RubyZeronyka

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Wild Life is a fantastic example for why BotN should never update, because the Wild Life devs have a similar ability (or desire) to optimize their game properly. Which is effectively none at all. Even on UE4 it was always a poorly optimized mess, just like BotN. Simultaneously, it's a terrible example of UE5 games for precisely the same reason: the devs made a mess of the port and then shifted blame to the engine change.
Yeah I normally played on the sandbox map in WL on UE4 but the "main" game was terrible in performance already. Tho at least the sandbox mode was somehow okey. With it's many issues as well like textures borking out after a relatively long playthrough such as characters makeup just vanishing and having to restart the whole game to fix it. But then you see the jump on UE5 and now even the sandbox mode feels like it takes a lambo engine to run properly.
 

syad51

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Nov 18, 2017
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Been a hot minute, couple of questions.
I think I'm missing it in the change appearance menu, but how do you change outfits?
Is it possible to breed or raise slime girls? Or is the Mega Slime it for now?
 

JaySpill

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Nov 6, 2020
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Is it possible to breed or raise slime girls? Or is the Mega Slime it for now?
Not sure about the outfits, but in Esoteric Glades where the elves are, just walk into the lake and the slime girls are spawning in the lake, and yes you can breed them.
 
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syad51

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Nov 18, 2017
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I think I might be softlocked, not sure.
So I used all my orbs to rush to the desert to get fast travel asap. This means I don't have the dragon/titan area unlocked, and there are no other quests I could complete (already did the slime underground with the pearl as well as the usual ones to progress)
Now, out of three available quests that I could use to unlock new areas and/or get orbs, only the one for the orc chieftain (breed a akabeko) is the one I can breed for, but it all depends on this.
If no one I know has the Enlarged trait, it is possible for it to be gained spontaneously just by breeding creatures of different heights?

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If not, then I have no way that I know of to gain this trait.
 

Wistala

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Got this game early access on Steam way back when it was first launched there and totally forgot about it. Just stumbled across it again here today. Time to see what's changed after all this time.
 
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