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RuneStar

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I think we shan't be comparing game code with other code. More so, they are like a snowflake in regards to being unique. Sure, you might find snippets of code similar to one another, but as a whole, they all NEED to work together.

One simple syntax error is all it takes to create a domino effect, and Kablam! Suddenly your point of origins are flipped on their axis, or code keeps getting read into other parts because a bracket went missing, or there is not suppose to be a bracket where one is now.

Either bite the bullet, make a new save, or just continue with an older game version.
You cannot have both.
You could, but it will not work correctly.

You really need to understand the inner-workings of a video game. Without looking it up, do you even know what a “String” is?

It's hard for people to understand that. Imagine that making a game is that the programming and the code will modify itself

"Ah, so we will add luck? at the touch my king, the code will automatically be fixed"

When this will be
"Now that you have the Luck stat, we will have to modify the appearance variables from color, appearance, appearance, if it is metallic, non-metallic, common or rare? What? you didn't modify then we are no good and we are going to give you errors with "BoTN not responding, can't process code and line 9124358 for lack of data""

"What? play an old savegame!? hahahaha listen to this fool, he thinks that our changes in programming are the same and he will be able to continue playing the same game hahahahahaha No way my king, it's time to exploit the game and make everything corrupt".
 
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DoorFive

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Imagine that making a game is that the programming and the code will modify itself
The scary thing is, we are getting to a point where AI can build the code for you. Modify it, change it, all you have to do is talk to the darn thing, and it can create its own language with whatever parameters you set.
I imagine, you must be incredibly specific for it to work, like, "careful what you wish for --Monkeys Paw--" sort of deal. Might be an exaggeration.

If it is one thing computers can do flawlessly that humans at times have trouble with, it would have to be logic. Logistics are the foundations of computing.
Art might not be it's forte, but something that requires an area of black and white focus would suit it perfectly.
In a scary way.
 
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Flugelbozz

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The scary thing is, we are getting to a point where AI can build the code for you. Modify it, change it, all you have to do is talk to the darn thing, and it can create its own language with whatever parameters you set.
I imagine, you must be incredibly specific for it to work, like, "careful what you wish for --Monkeys Paw--" sort of deal. Might be an exaggeration.

If it is one thing computers can do flawlessly that humans at times have trouble with, it would have to be logic. Logistics are the foundations of computing.
Art might not be it's forte, but something that requires an area of black and white focus would suit it perfectly.
In a scary way.
Unless the developer plans for it, save games wouldn't be compatible across versions.

Also the AI code will turn up like the AI art. Passable at best. Will need copious amounts of Photoshop (debugging) to make it work. 10s to write the code, 10 hours debugging it.
 

yp34

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Unless the developer plans for it, save games wouldn't be compatible across versions.

Also the AI code will turn up like the AI art. Passable at best. Will need copious amounts of Photoshop (debugging) to make it work. 10s to write the code, 10 hours debugging it.
It will improve somewhat unlike art the result is binary
It either runs well or it doesn't run at all
I do believe the code one day will be pretty good with an ok programmer fixing some mistakes
 

RuneStar

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Any tips or tricks to improve traits a little faster?

Combine everything, release. Increase the level of essence, sometimes you will find "Rares" with some trait at level 3.


If you are too lazy to wait in the game for them to have children. Take the easiest option, go home and sleep 3-4 times, they will already be born.

Be careful that now for the versions, incest is not allowed.
 

yp34

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Combine everything, release. Increase the level of essence, sometimes you will find "Rares" with some trait at level 3.


If you are too lazy to wait in the game for them to have children. Take the easiest option, go home and sleep 3-4 times, they will already be born.

Be careful that now for the versions, incest is not allowed.
You can always turn it on
 
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Bapoch

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Guys, how do I get the bunny girl? Can snakes be obtained or are these two things not implemented yet?
 

florameriadoc

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Guys, how do I get the bunny girl? Can snakes be obtained or are these two things not implemented yet?
the Risu, or as you call it, bunny girl is located in the first place where foxen and wolf are located, go to the water until you reach an opening on your left, climb the stairs and the Risu are located there, as for the snake they are not implanted, except the one that guard the pussy portal and her sister with the huge ass
 
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str8up

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I think we shan't be comparing game code with other code. More so, they are like a snowflake in regards to being unique. Sure, you might find snippets of code similar to one another, but as a whole, they all NEED to work together.

One simple syntax error is all it takes to create a domino effect, and Kablam! Suddenly your point of origins are flipped on their axis, or code keeps getting read into other parts because a bracket went missing, or there is not suppose to be a bracket where one is now.

Either bite the bullet, make a new save, or just continue with an older game version.
You cannot have both.
You could, but it will not work correctly.

You really need to understand the inner-workings of a video game. Without looking it up, do you even know what a “String” is?
A piece of string walks into a bar and asks the barkeep for a drink. The tender tells the string, “We don’t serve pieces of string in here.” The string walks out of the bar dejected and discouraged until he gets an idea. He tousles the strands of fiber on top of his head and twists and turns his body onto itself. He then proceeds to walk back into the bar, just as the barkeep exclaims, “Didn’t I tell you we don’t serve pieces of string here!” The string responds, “I’m a frayed knot.” ;)
 

lindenbrock

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Ive been trying to figure out how to get botn tools to work for a while. It doesnt seem to change anything? I have version 0.10 but changing individual creatures and then saving does nothing in game, and if i reload the save in the editor my changes disappear. I have tried multiple creatures, traits, and different save files. I even deleted all saves except one to remove that potential mix up. Batch edit also doesnt work. The editor detects changes in the save folder, as does the game, so i know the folder is right, but the editor just isnt changing anything

All changes are made with the game closed, i have game version 761.52 i think? Got it from the first page a few days ago.
 

ola amigo

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Even with Essence at 5 how does the game have the audacity to spawn worthless nephelym. I did not waste my time on raising essence for this. WTF is this game. Even with cheats this is brain boggling.
 

yp34

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Even with Essence at 5 how does the game have the audacity to spawn worthless nephelym. I did not waste my time on raising essence for this. WTF is this game. Even with cheats this is brain boggling.
Basically the dev wanted to take the focus from hunting to breeding
So really nerfed wild neph
Basically if you want good neph breed them
 
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Brinline

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Basically the dev wanted to take the focus from hunting to breeding
So really nerfed wild neph
Basically if you want good neph breed them
Meanwhile I don't understand the Essence and such... I even hoped if you release them, they'll spawn and create more better quality creatures.
 

yp34

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Meanwhile I don't understand the Essence and such... I even hoped if you release them, they'll spawn and create more better quality creatures.
That was the old system
With world levels but the dev though that was cheap way for raising the quality level
So he changed it to the essence system were you have to complete a "challenge" with that species of neph
Then old system is better but the dev is pretty shit when it comes game Dev and got cursed with the large porn game dev curse (ie milk aeterna) so the game is on a standstill
He also is very picky in what he will work with
So no males despite having a large female audience
He also claims psychological problems for the last 3 years and blames them as the reason he doesn't work
Now if you asked me he just doesn't want to work on the game anymore the passion is gone or he grew out of it but it's his cash cow so he does periodic updates instead of saying yep games done work on moding finish that and essentially sell the game
And everyone would be happy he would have made his millions and go do something else and we would modify the game in ways we like it
 
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DudeBro79

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At this point I wish he would just hand the game over to someone more competent. I don't hate him, I appreciate what's here so far, but it's pretty clear that BOTN isn't going anywhere with him at the helm.

I do understand that he probably thinks BOTN is his baby and doesn't want to let people mess with his "vision" whatever the hell that might be.
 
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