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Eroitch

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May 21, 2023
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honestly for me its because PoP is a bit too dense for me to comfortably sink into. Its possibly gotten a bit more digestible since I last gave it a run like 2 years ago but when I'm in the mood to play a porn game, my brain usually isn't getting enough blood for deep strategic thinking.
I mean crazy right? Not a usual sight to see a porn game with actual gameplay which requires basic brain function!
I have a feeling we are discussing two different games, yes. It's been a few years since I last played it, if it matters.
I implore you then to go and ACTUALLY play that game, and TRY to show me what this bullshit you would think does better. (literally fucking nothing btw)
 

joena

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Jun 12, 2024
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Excuse me what? You are contradicting yourself.
I don't see what could be contradictory about it. The first statement is a reponse to "only a gallery was added". The second to "only tweaking things" and being lazy. Changing engines is still a lot of work even if in the end it was not implemented into the main release.
Then don't put your work up on patreon or expect people to support you for doing essentially nothing. The problem isn't with laziness, IDC what he does he had enough with developing this shit or whatever I can understand that. I won't understand how you can expect people to stay loyal or support you for doing something like that and then suddenly come out of the woodworks 2 years later and act as if nothing happened. Fuck that, should've just left this game dead like all the others before in this niche genre.
If people want to support "doing essentially nothing" then they should be able to. Some people just like throwing money around.

I haven't and don't plan to financialy support any game not fully finished and/or in a full release state.
I have on the other hand no problem paying a bit more for the fully finished product though if it meets my expectations.

The main problem with early access (even if there is no money involved) is that expectations just get out of hand so easily.
That leads to pressure to implement more and more things. It's basically a feature and scope creep catalyst.
And the worst about it is the higher the expectations the worse the reaction to any delays or refusal to do something.
So you get the shitstorm for free as an added bonus.
But it's still a good way to get feedback and involvement of your potential player (customer) base.

I am well aware of the Dunning-Kruger effect and that is why I am very hesitant when making claims about how easy or complex something is and how much effort it takes to do it. I try not to assume someones intentions for similar reasons.

I understand the frustration as it would be really nice to have some more content to play with.
And I get the sunken cost fallacy because I myself fell for it many times.
But I also found out that I really should be mad about myself and not necessarily others first when making mistakes.
Sure it feels nice to vent but it doesn't solve anything and more importantly doesn't prevent me doing the exact same thing again. And speaking to those others usually just got a lot more awkward and difficult.

I've been following the development of this game since 2020. I liked and disliked many things done and not done in that time.
In the end it was always "good enough" for me not to voice those opinions and give feedback.
 

Eroitch

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May 21, 2023
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someone seems mad XD
Of course man people are mad here I'm fucking losing my mind over this...
I don't see what could be contradictory about it. The first statement is a reponse to "only a gallery was added". The second to "only tweaking things" and being lazy. Changing engines is still a lot of work even if in the end it was not implemented into the main release.

If people want to support "doing essentially nothing" then they should be able to. Some people just like throwing money around.

I haven't and don't plan to financialy support any game not fully finished and/or in a full release state.
I have on the other hand no problem paying a bit more for the fully finished product though if it meets my expectations.

The main problem with early access (even if there is no money involved) is that expectations just get out of hand so easily.
That leads to pressure to implement more and more things...
Nothing. This dev does nothing and gets payed more than many other lesser known devs who pour their very souls into their work, and do actually have something to show for it, while a game like this get exposure for no fucking reason AT ALL while having NOTHING to show for it. You understand why it is frustrating? I don't care about your yapping over early access or fallacies, this isn't the main point here. It's the fucking injustice that happens because of idiots like your very self overplay bullshit games everywhere man, not just here, even on fucking Steam. And nobody bets an eye until a crazy bloke like me runs in with a pitchfork and yells to everyone to go and FUCK THEMSELVES...
 
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Vycle

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I mean crazy right? Not a usual sight to see a porn game with actual gameplay which requires basic brain function!

I implore you then to go and ACTUALLY play that game, and TRY to show me what this bullshit you would think does better. (literally fucking nothing btw)


what PoP?
 

flannan

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There is no way you've actually played that game by referring to it like this. Either that or you are just trolling at this point.
I guess I am just a lot more visually-oriented person than you are.
Or maybe that my standard for comparison is Monster Black Market, where your screen is full of people breeding.
 

Eroitch

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I guess I am just a lot more visually-oriented person than you are.
Or maybe that my standard for comparison is Monster Black Market, where your screen is full of people breeding.
I'm pretty sure there are actually more visual scenes in PoP than there are in Monster Black Market. I would bet good money on that even though I did not play MBM to its end. (another overhyped game imo) But of course, you wouldn't know that till you haven't actually progressed in PoP, and you do actually have to use another very essential organ in your body other than your reproductive one with your left hand in the case of PoP. :)
 
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tanngiost

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FEATURE CREEP? I'm doubting if you even know what that term refers to. This shit has about half the gameplay elements of Breeding Season. What the fuck do you MEAN feature creep? Yeah sure if minimum life sustain means he MILKS THE FURRY FUCKS. Guys please refrain from making yourself sound stupid. We are talking about 2 years of dev time. You can't simply joke about this with a straight face man...

you need to chill out there big guy. no one here is defending the dev, he's doing the bare minimum to keep his patreon active and avoid the abandoned f95 tag. it sucks. but it's a fact feature creep kills breeder type games even without a shitty dev. it's also a fact this game has more actual porn and actual breeder content than any other.

funny you quoted breeding season having more, are you serious? the most content it ever had was before their artstyle change and it was all 3 scene flash video loops of 1-2 seconds. after it was random hodgpodge and random "Event" scenes all while having next to no monsterxmonster or monsterxbreeder interaction animations.
 

Eroitch

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you need to chill out there big guy. no one here is defending the dev, he's doing the bare minimum to keep his patreon active and avoid the abandoned f95 tag. it sucks. but it's a fact feature creep kills breeder type games even without a shitty dev. it's also a fact this game has more actual porn and actual breeder content than any other.

funny you quoted breeding season having more, are you serious? the most content it ever had was before their artstyle change and it was all 3 scene flash video loops of 1-2 seconds. after it was random hodgpodge and random "Event" scenes all while having next to no monsterxmonster or monsterxbreeder interaction animations.
Okay, okay I admit that I might've exaggerated a bit with saying it has half as much, yeah I guess it has MAYBE about as much, though that is up for debate. That still is not a good outlook regardless... Also, please, I beg someone to explain to me how can "feature creep" be an issue in a game WHICH IS NOT EVEN FUCKING FEATURE COMPLETE??? LIKE DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT FEATURE CREEP EVEN MEANS? HOW? You have to be completely clueless to think the main problem with these sorts of games is feature creep. I mean we have been just talking about THE PERFECT FUCKING COUNTER example to this. PORTALS OF FUCKING PHEREON. In DerelictHelmsman's game you literally already have all the assets present you just need to build AN ACTUAL GAME around it instead of a fucking alpha level grindfest which it currently is. But he realized WHY EVEN GIVE A FUCK when my little white knights will protect me with the power of FUCKING FEATURE CREEP and pay me big money for doing JACK SHIT. GOOOOOOOOOOOOD YOU PEOPLE!!! :ROFLMAO:
 
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Soooo besides all the arguing and people getting angry and all that, so nothing new on this release? just asking man, not criticizing the game
 
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