This is a great game. I don't see any problem about new things.
Why? Isn't this game free?
Why? Isn't this game free?
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Unreal Engine Breeders of the Nephelym [v0.761.58] [DerelictHelmsman]
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No thanks. Shit design is shit design and it being pointed out here or on discord or wherever else is not going to change that.
If you feel like you're up to the task of defending the game's time wasting grindy design- go for it. You may even invite whatever discord mods to help you out.
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Actually, I accidentally addressed the previous answer to you, I wanted to answer JK3.
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No, not really sure about what he wants with this game. Money, I suppose... because, obviously, he doesn't really care about improving the gameplay; nor the graphics for all that matter. Do you guys like his animations? Do you like his color palette (as everything is reddish at any time of the day?). I am aware that some people like their massive tits, but what about the other players that may have different opinion on the matter... That doesn't bother him a bit so to me all is good and very cool and also very dead... project.
"The game is about x therefore it has to be repeatitive, grindy and slow" is not the greatest argument you thought it was.
You'd think this is about a Korean MMO or something.
The previous system was fine and didn't really need a change until way later in development. This new system is just painful as what would take less than a few hours has exponentially jumped for not even new content. It was the same as the gates, what exactly were the purpose of them? The dev should just worry more on the meat of the game. Breeding system> sex animations> Races > items/fluids> barn expansion> grind.
This is a breeding game which you breed. You breed for minutes, hours.. and a little tip for you about future of this game.. you will breed more..
I don't know what do you expect from a breeding game at all?
If you can't handle it, just use cheats.. it is sandbox
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I expect breeding, not grind. Those are two different things but apparently the dev could only afford an ESL apologist who doesn't understand the difference.
Buddy, you don't have the grasp of the English language to pull off snark so just drop it.
Nobody ever described this game as "hard" because diffculty is not a factor when it comes to anything in this game, which may partially explain the boredom.
You know you got a well designed game when even its apologists go "just use cheats lol".
By the way, I don't know where this recent fad of using "sandbox" as "non-game" came to be but I'll happily direct you to some sandbox games that have both gameplay and difficulty.
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I've been following this game on and off since before it was posted here and in that time I've come to understand that this will probably never have what I would consider "satisfying" gameplay and that is because of one thing: Derelict doesn't really play games. This isn't an assumption either, he outright admits on discord that beyond the souls series he doesn't play video games and that shows in his work. I believe that he genuinely cares and wants to create something good but his reluctance to come out of his comfort zone combined with his lack of experience in actually experiencing games and the systems that make them satisfying to play makes for a poor development mindset.
The reason I say this is because if he really was just in it for the money he would enable male on male content among other often requested features but he doesn't, for better or worse. The optimist in me wants to say that once all the systems have been built they'll "click" together which has been the case before such as when color blending and the "atypical" trait made breeding more interesting but with every "gameplay" change it feels worse to me. Unlike with the changes to breeding coloration I don't see how he could make the process of actually catching and breeding interesting with what he has now, the gameplay loop is flawed at its core which is only made worse with the recent addition of race specific world levels.
The erotic content is too separated from the gameplay, the game is grindy so naturally you want to be efficient so what do you do? You buy fluids to catch nephelym which means you don't see sex. You want to raise their levels to complete mission board requests? You use the "quick" option in breeding which means you don't see sex. Now you might be thinking "well taking the quick sexless path is optional, just don't do it" but you're looking at an insane grind if you plan on, for example, raising a races world level by catching through surprise sex, you will absolutely get bored of the animations long before you're through.
Here's the crux of the situation: How do you fix these problems without making the game even more grindy? This is where I'm at and why I believe the game will likely never be anything more for me than an animation viewer. To end on a positive note I think the Motherly trait was a great addition, making pregnancy more relevant and rewarding and anything that increases xp gained is a godsend.
You don't have to raise 600 nephs, every neph has a different value based on rarity, level etc. you can raise 60 nephs with 10 value and release them but you can easily get them to value 50 and you only need to release 12 of them to get '600' values.
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You are right, one doesn't need to catch 600 nephs to level one world by one level and I shall go with your number: 60. Catching one neph runs an animation that takes 30 seconds (more or less). Do you agree with that? If yes, lets do basic arithmetic: 60 x 30 = 1,800 seconds = 30 minutes! Can you call this 30 minutes, gameplay? I actually went through all this process and believe you me, it got old very, very fast...
Hello. A question for connoisseurs.I took a stone from a slime, opened a valley with cows and bunnies. Took the quests from Dryad, bring her a bee. Took the quest from butterfly, bring her a fox. and the centaur, bring her Wolfe.
So, do I need to lvlup some specific nifelim to a specific level? Or any fit, of this race? I lvlup and lvlup them, but the quest dialogue does not appear during conversation ...
So, do I need to lvlup some specific nifelim to a specific level? Or any fit, of this race? I lvlup and lvlup them, but the quest dialogue does not appear during conversation ...
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The only thing that needed more thinking about was what to do with the Nephs.
By that, I mean whether to release for World Level Progress or trade with the Emissary for favour tokens.
The way I'm going, I'll be using Sterile Nephs for the World Level and viable ones for the Emissary.
lebedix, check the quest board under Special Requests. That will tell you exactly what they need: Race, Gender, Traits and Level.
You also fulfil the request from there.
Once you do so, it'll tell you to go and talk to the one that gave you that request.
By that, I mean whether to release for World Level Progress or trade with the Emissary for favour tokens.
The way I'm going, I'll be using Sterile Nephs for the World Level and viable ones for the Emissary.
lebedix, check the quest board under Special Requests. That will tell you exactly what they need: Race, Gender, Traits and Level.
You also fulfil the request from there.
Once you do so, it'll tell you to go and talk to the one that gave you that request.
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Did you play prior to his hotfix? going from 3 to 4 was a massive jump in terms of points that is was daunting. Even with you dropping the number to 60, that seems insane as it feels more like you are just padding out the game. Why am I spending so much time breeding up good nephs just to release them for small gain? Why not use those blessed nephs to increase world levels by doing stuff for them, and their demands get harder and harder so you have something actively building up to?
The information you are looking for is on the breeding request board, just outside the farm, on the road going to town. There should be two tabs when you look at the board, one of them will be special requests. If you look at that, it will tell you what each of the Blessed Nephelym want and the required levels and traits needed.
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So, I think it's pretty clear that the overwhelming majority of people in this thread agree that the last thing this game needs is more timesinks. I tend to agree as well. So, under the assumption that suggestions involving the player spending more time grinding are off the table, what could be done to improve the flow and experience?
Quite a lot, actually. Some suggestions include, but are not limited to:
Quite a lot, actually. Some suggestions include, but are not limited to:
- Increase the player's movement speed.
- Add idle animations and pathing to the farm, and allow some of the player's nephelym to wander about and do things. They could laze in their yards, wander around, use the stools and benches you use to milk them, fuck each other, etc. We already know the game has some degree of pathfinding and such for the nephelym since they can wander their areas, and single-character animations like lazing around, leaning against walls, etc. are far less involved than making two-character animations. (Just six per "position" rather than 36.)
- Add more nephelym to the town. The game already has a dialogue system that hooks into variables, and Unreal absolutely supports variables needed to create a basic relationship system. It wouldn't be difficult at all to create a setup where the player could optionally woo townsfolk into bed using conversations and materials that the game already has.
- Add more detail to the world. This could even be hooked into the recent upgrade system, where upgrading a specific area improves it visually.
- Lewd collectables could be added to the world. These could be in the form of things that get added to the ranch as decorations, or in the form of plants and other gatherables that have (potentially temporary) stat boosting or transformative effects. (The latter of which already exists in the lore and visuals)
- Unlocking an area could create global changes to the world. Perhaps it expands the town in some way, like adding nephelym from that gate to the town. Perhaps it allows theming specific to that area to "encroach" upon the rest of the world to an extent.
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