Unreal Engine Breeders of the Nephelym [v0.761.6] [DerelictHelmsman]

[DoorFive]

If I'm being honest, fluids are important.
In a game where visuals and looks are everything.
Sound too.

 

[mckHH]

Guessing if didnt broke something and if the saves from prev build will work or again since 0

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[flannan]

How in the world does that makes perfect sense? If you add new quests to do, that is supposed to bring you something NEW as a reward in order for you to get invested in doing the new stuff for. That's basically the reason on why you would want to do the new quest at all on the first place. The vast majority of developers and studios when they update their games with new content, that is usually how they do it and is for a reason. You have new content available but that requires you to do something new to access, well, the NEW content.

In the case of BotN, let's see the changes and why the way they were added felt like a fukedupery:
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Like I said, it makes perfect sense for the developer, not for the players. All your comment is about the players' feelings.
For the developer, he gets to test the new content while it's available easily (and hear the players' complaints too), and only later it gets locked behind progression, making some of the content difficult to get, and thus rarely used, and thus rarely tested.

 

[Dirgha]

New version 0.761.57

 

[RubyZeronyka]

Good to see this game ain't dead yet, I'm curious if the new fluids system is gonna work in a way like Wild Life's do with cumshots. Then it's gonna be HUGE. Might not seem that much on the surface but is one of the things I loved about that game and honestly the cumshots in BotN at times didn't made that much sense at all lol

Also Flannan the reason I'm saying that the grind is a terrible design choise it's based on the idea that the dev pretty much forces people to use cheats and basically not deal with the progression at all. Like how can you test something properly if you have to start from scratch yes or yes in order to get it tested on the first place? Sure some people might be willing to do so but very few players are willing to unpaidly go out of their way and do all the grind to test a new feature that it's added right in the middle of the many hours it takes you to get there. And before you say it, I fukin know that a full test from scratch is gonna be more effective but you just don't have that luxury in most cases.

Another thing I find dumb is that the cheats themselves are 1-1000 scenarios, if you use the money cheat for example you're given money that basically allows you to buy virtually every possible thing "money" could buy in there and still have extra one that you use.... To roleplay as Bruce/Bruna? Wayne or something. You can't properly test things with that or having specific cockblock gates to be unlocked or SOMETHING that allowed you to use the cheats to skip SOME of the parts you find tedious so you can properly test things. Again, there's better ways to implement things in basically any area, and you're assuming that I'm talking just from the player's perspective but no. I'm also thinking as a developer. If wanted shit to be tested and my game is a grindfest by default that have cheats to skip progression, at least I would make it so the cheats don't go from one extreme to the other. And I'm telling you, THAT alone would aleviate the grind issue MAAAAAASSIVELY. Instead of something like "give me favor", you get enough to pay Pawsmatti's entire kamasutrery kit twice, you set it to be like "give me X favor" so you can put something of a value like, give me 200, you get enough to buy 1, maybe 2 positions but have to grind for the others. So they feel like players achieved something and gave them an incentive to unlock each an everyone of them. Instead of forcing them to unlock them one by one and skipping it entirely and maybe not noticing that the moment you finally found the area to learn Waterfall, you'll notice that yeah, Derelict put Pawsmatti in an area that no one is gonna find it unless they happen to just feel bored AF, explore areas they're not supposed to and finding him.

Really surprises me nowadays how extremely shallow minded people can be to justify things that from any perspective are simply undefendable....

 

[Adimusa]

Did i miss something?
Is it still alive ?

Lets hope we get to see more stuff this year.
I would realy hate for it to die.

 

[RubyZeronyka]

Did i miss something?
Is it still alive ?

Lets hope we get to see more stuff this year.
I would realy hate for it to die.

Seems so, a new update just got released. Apparently it added a bunch of things that were missing like the sex interactions with the new clothes seller, as well as the clam-girl. Which TBH I never understood why Dere never added animations for her.

 

[DatWanGai]

The biggest problem in this game isn't the grind. It's the lack of payoff from the grind.
In most games, grinding has a purpose. You grind this, you are rewarded with that.
A good number of games that reward is either a way to ease or automate the grind, some allows you to skip the grind all together.

This game however, your reward for the grind is more grind.

 

[Adimusa]

New Content, Animations,..... i want it all !
But at the moment i would realy love some more Wild Sex options -.-

 

[AlecDragonKing]

The biggest problem in this game isn't the grind. It's the lack of payoff from the grind.
In most games, grinding has a purpose. You grind this, you are rewarded with that.
A good number of games that reward is either a way to ease or automate the grind, some allows you to skip the grind all together.

This game however, your reward for the grind is more grind.

I agree, the payoffs aren't terribly satisfactory, hopefully the rewards get a fresh rehaul, there's gotta be more than simply just getting one keystone after another. I have been playing this game off and on for years and the grind isn't too bad, it's the lack of meaningful content that makes me sigh. From what I understand from the discord and updates, there is most definitely a main quest path planned out involving the seven sexy sins, (Most likely final quest will involve finally meeting the Goddess as there is clear build up to that). Plus there's a fair few big empty area's that check all the boxes for planned future content, weather than be for new species or quests, or it could just be wishful thinking.

Rumor:- I also hear tell the farm house is planned to actually become a proper house you can actually go inside and that an intro cutscene is being worked on and voice actresses are being considered... however take all that with a big fat grain of salt.

I was a supporter of this game before the updates suddenly became few and far between. I was starting to get the sense this game succumed to the breeding game curse. I am still not convinced it is off life support however it still catches my attention every time I see this game's eyes flutter with an update.

 

[RubyZeronyka]

The biggest problem in this game isn't the grind. It's the lack of payoff from the grind.
In most games, grinding has a purpose. You grind this, you are rewarded with that.
A good number of games that reward is either a way to ease or automate the grind, some allows you to skip the grind all together.

This game however, your reward for the grind is more grind.

That's true, yeah. In most sandboxes like Minecraft or Palworld the grind might feel repetitive, but the reward for that in the possibilities it opens up makes it worth it, even if "tedious". Which I think is part on why the whole progression thing locking previously available stuff behind gates feel like a straight spit in the face from the dev. Like bruh, not only your game is naturally grindy, but you make it grindier to get the same stuff we had available before pretty much. Makes you wonder if Derelict isn't a former EA developer cause the mindset feels similar.

Again, game can be amazing with cheats, it just doesn't feel like half of the stuff in there makes any sense to be in the first place. For example, the latest update added sex with the clam-girl. If you're not doing the progression you won't even bother to get there so it feels like no content got added. Unless you did, but at that time you'll be so burnt out that you'll just see it as an extra step to skip on your journey to unlock the area where demons are so you can start smashing Succuby and Cambions.

 

[RubyZeronyka]

I agree, the payoffs aren't terribly satisfactory, hopefully the rewards get a fresh rehaul, there's gotta be more than simply just getting one keystone after another. I have been playing this game off and on for years and the grind isn't too bad, it's the lack of meaningful content that makes me sigh. From what I understand from the discord and updates, there is most definitely a main quest path planned out involving the seven sexy sins, (Most likely final quest will involve finally meeting the Goddess as there is clear build up to that). Plus there's a fair few big empty area's that check all the boxes for planned future content, weather than be for new species or quests, or it could just be wishful thinking.

Rumor:- I also hear tell the farm house is planned to actually become a proper house you can actually go inside and that an intro cutscene is being worked on and voice actresses are being considered... however take all that with a big fat grain of salt.

I was a supporter of this game before the updates suddenly became few and far between. I was starting to get the sense this game succumed to the breeding game curse. I am still not convinced it is off life support however it still catches my attention every time I see this game's eyes flutter with an update.

I mean there's a lot of alternative games that offer basically the same or much better than what BotN offers but what keeps bringing me back on this is the breeding system. While I have played full lewd games and lewd modded regular games that had some kind of pregnancy system, none felt as impactful and "player's choice exclusive" as how BotN's does. If your character is blonde and you get a red haired neph pregnant, your offspring might perfectly end up being orange haired, but if your character is blue haired instead, your offspring hair color might have the colors of Murika's flag XD

It makes the whole breeding thing feel truly unique, like, "if I combine this char with this other one, how's their descendant gonna look like?". And sure, some things could use some work in there but that it's one of the things from BotN I don't have anything bad to say about. I actually really like that system, to the point that usually I have a freaking notepad file everytime I play to keep track of some stuff cause oh boi, things can get out of hand really quickly lol

One thing this game DEFINITELY needs ASAP is some kind of pause function. Like.... You're out there hunting nephs, then nature calls for the bathroom to be used and unless you save game and then reload you just can't pause unless you open a dialogue or menu, still that doesn't pause the rest of the game so if you're doing something like keeping your barn's pregnancies in check, that throws it out of the window. I know is a minor detail but I think it can make a huge difference.

I'm still curious about the whole sin's deal. We got introduced Sloth and Pride but I'm actually curious on Greed and Lust.

 

[AlecDragonKing]

I mean there's a lot of alternative games that offer basically the same or much better than what BotN offers but what keeps bringing me back on this is the breeding system. While I have played full lewd games and lewd modded regular games that had some kind of pregnancy system, none felt as impactful and "player's choice exclusive" as how BotN's does. If your character is blonde and you get a red haired neph pregnant, your offspring might perfectly end up being orange haired, but if your character is blue haired instead, your offspring hair color might have the colors of Murika's flag XD

It makes the whole breeding thing feel truly unique, like, "if I combine this char with this other one, how's their descendant gonna look like?". And sure, some things could use some work in there but that it's one of the things from BotN I don't have anything bad to say about. I actually really like that system, to the point that usually I have a freaking notepad file everytime I play to keep track of some stuff cause oh boi, things can get out of hand really quickly lol

One thing this game DEFINITELY needs ASAP is some kind of pause function. Like.... You're out there hunting nephs, then nature calls for the bathroom to be used and unless you save game and then reload you just can't pause unless you open a dialogue or menu, still that doesn't pause the rest of the game so if you're doing something like keeping your barn's pregnancies in check, that throws it out of the window. I know is a minor detail but I think it can make a huge difference.

I'm still curious about the whole sin's deal. We got introduced Sloth and Pride but I'm actually curious on Greed and Lust.

Oh I agree. The breeding system and character creation are phenomenally good, best by far out of any of the other games. Plus a proper pause function would be nice, however I don't see it as being terribly important at the moment as there really is no consequence for allowing the game to go no. Wild nemphs don't mess with you when your paused. The only drawback you could say is having to wait a week if you miss a daily toy you wanna see.

Breeding Quests also need serious attention, depite having nothing you can really spend your money on other than new buildings. Not sure what Helm is planning to do with the clothing system... it would be pretty decent if you had clothing and accessories you could buy for your nemphs that added bonuses.

From what i've seen the sexy sins are also obstacles to your progression by laying traps, such as with with pride's mind f**k's and Sloth's tentacles. I know that Helm wan't to do something more with the capture system like he did in the old days. I just hope these updates start coming more frequently, then I might put up my expectations.

 

[RubyZeronyka]

Oh I agree. The breeding system and character creation are phenomenally good, best by far out of any of the other games. Plus a proper pause function would be nice, however I don't see it as being terribly important at the moment as there really is no consequence for allowing the game to go no. Wild nemphs don't mess with you when your paused. The only drawback you could say is having to wait a week if you miss a daily toy you wanna see.

Breeding Quests also need serious attention, depite having nothing you can really spend your money on other than new buildings. Not sure what Helm is planning to do with the clothing system... it would be pretty decent if you had clothing and accessories you could buy for your nemphs that added bonuses.

From what i've seen the sexy sins are also obstacles to your progression by laying traps, such as with with pride's mind f**k's and Sloth's tentacles. I know that Helm wan't to do something more with the capture system like he did in the old days. I just hope these updates start coming more frequently, then I might put up my expectations.

Oh my, now that you mentioned it. It's true! Each of the sins seem to have a particular booby trap system tied to them. Wonder how that will work with the other sins. Lets see:
- We know that Sloth works with the tentacles cause MF is too lazy to be bothered to move her ass to do the fucking, so she uses her tentacles to do the work, kinda makes sense.
- Pride is a nitpicky bitch who would project a ghost of herself to have her way with the others while only if you reach perfection can you have "access" her, just like with Sloth, it could be questionable on how that fits exactly with the sin itself they represent, but still feels in character, or more like.... In sin? IDK XD

Now about the remaining five, some seem to have the foundation of their possible "toolsets" already there, but others.... Not sure how they could be even copy/pasted into the game at all.

Based on what you get to know about them from Pride's intel on each one (can also check them here:

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), like:
- Lust being a succubus definitely seem to be implied to have something related to, like, if you go to sleep while still having some "hornyness" remaining, she will come after you. At least judging by how lust as a sin behaves and how succubus are portrayed, it's the idea that seems that makes the most sense in a world like Lyrcea. At least.... As a conceptual idea. Tho it's implied she's encased on ice, so you have to free her first to then that happening? I assume she would probably be somewhere around that mountain area where you get to the titans, unless Derelict has plans for a unique area for her.
- Greed I'm not sure how could work here. Maybe if you start making too much orgasium in a short amount of time she'll come after you with some tax or something? And the NPCs sort of point out you need to discuss that with her? Still that could work as a method to get to her but not on how her "trap" system would function with all this. About where she is, no idea. I don't see any area as possible treasure hoard and having her on the dragons area, while kinda makes sense, feels too early game, tho maybe that could be part of the point, she being basically the first sexy sin you can come across? IDK
- Wrath honestly I have no clue on how could be implemented either, like sure, the grind in this game is eyeroll inducing but not something that is truly angering so to speak. Also it's said that she's on a pool of lava prison and the only areas that have lava are already in use for both Pride and Sloth so unless Sloth is moved somewhere else, I don't see where you could find Wrath, however it could be like the Lust case, that DH has plans to have a standalone area for just Wrath.
- Envy.... Ugh, I can't even picture what could trigger her or her traps. Only thing that we know is that she has some deal with the elves, so she's definitely around the Esoteric Glade but nothing else beyond that.
- And lastly Gluttony, hmmmm, I'll assume she has some beef with the bovaurs and she appears in the Pastes cause if you think about it, milk is the only "food" that is shown in the game so far, and bovaurs are basically the milkiest (so to speak) species, so definitely Gluttony will want to be near them. As for the traps.... Maybe some kind of carnivorous plants that instead of eating the nephs they run them dry in a tandem on how Fern/Blossom does or how tentacles work with males and half the times with futas?

 

[MarinaSlutoon]

Is the latest build available to download somewhere by any chance ?

 

[AlecDragonKing]

Oh my, now that you mentioned it. It's true! Each of the sins seem to have a particular booby trap system tied to them. Wonder how that will work with the other sins. Lets see:
- We know that Sloth works with the tentacles cause MF is too lazy to be bothered to move her ass to do the fucking, so she uses her tentacles to do the work, kinda makes sense.
- Pride is a nitpicky bitch who would project a ghost of herself to have her way with the others while only if you reach perfection can you have "access" her, just like with Sloth, it could be questionable on how that fits exactly with the sin itself they represent, but still feels in character, or more like.... In sin? IDK XD

Now about the remaining five, some seem to have the foundation of their possible "toolsets" already there, but others.... Not sure how they could be even copy/pasted into the game at all.

Based on what you get to know about them from Pride's intel on each one (can also check them here:

You must be registered to see the links

), like:
- Lust being a succubus definitely seem to be implied to have something related to, like, if you go to sleep while still having some "hornyness" remaining, she will come after you. At least judging by how lust as a sin behaves and how succubus are portrayed, it's the idea that seems that makes the most sense in a world like Lyrcea. At least.... As a conceptual idea. Tho it's implied she's encased on ice, so you have to free her first to then that happening? I assume she would probably be somewhere around that mountain area where you get to the titans, unless Derelict has plans for a unique area for her.
- Greed I'm not sure how could work here. Maybe if you start making too much orgasium in a short amount of time she'll come after you with some tax or something? And the NPCs sort of point out you need to discuss that with her? Still that could work as a method to get to her but not on how her "trap" system would function with all this. About where she is, no idea. I don't see any area as possible treasure hoard and having her on the dragons area, while kinda makes sense, feels too early game, tho maybe that could be part of the point, she being basically the first sexy sin you can come across? IDK
- Wrath honestly I have no clue on how could be implemented either, like sure, the grind in this game is eyeroll inducing but not something that is truly angering so to speak. Also it's said that she's on a pool of lava prison and the only areas that have lava are already in use for both Pride and Sloth so unless Sloth is moved somewhere else, I don't see where you could find Wrath, however it could be like the Lust case, that DH has plans to have a standalone area for just Wrath.
- Envy.... Ugh, I can't even picture what could trigger her or her traps. Only thing that we know is that she has some deal with the elves, so she's definitely around the Esoteric Glade but nothing else beyond that.
- And lastly Gluttony, hmmmm, I'll assume she has some beef with the bovaurs and she appears in the Pastes cause if you think about it, milk is the only "food" that is shown in the game so far, and bovaurs are basically the milkiest (so to speak) species, so definitely Gluttony will want to be near them. As for the traps.... Maybe some kind of carnivorous plants that instead of eating the nephs they run them dry in a tandem on how Fern/Blossom does or how tentacles work with males and half the times with futas?

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Yeah I too have pondered what is to come with upcoming content. As to the Seven Sexy Sins I think there will be different consequences for falling into each one of their traps that hasn't been implemented yet. I sincerely believe one of the mechanics of the game is debuffs to slow your progression you'll have to pay to get fixed with orgasmium, perhaps these traps will also cause debuffs too.

I love all the theories on the sexy sins. My theory on Lust is that there will be Lust storms that will erupt at random that will cause the wild ones to go beserk with horniness until she is set free. My theory on Greed is she will lay traps to f**k and rob your ass. As for Envy, I have a theory she will just ambush you at random every so often. Gluttony I think will also have traps that will cause you to lose milk and cum. Wrath is a real head scratcher though, probably minions?

There are clear signs there are more areas to be added. Hell perhaps we've only got half a map so far. The sheer size of the undersea area tells me there's a lot more to be added there, undersea nymphs and other blessed. Certain big spaces tell me there's something that's supposed to be there that hasn't been added or trails that lead to nowhere tell me eventually it will go to a new area.

 

[RubyZeronyka]

WAIT A GODDAMIT SECOND! I just saw there's a new build available and now vagrants can jump on you and initiate sex, or maybe I understood it wrong but something on those lines. MUST TRY NOW! Please, can someone share it? I'll apreaciate it ^^

 

[RubyZeronyka]

Yeah I too have pondered what is to come with upcoming content. As to the Seven Sexy Sins I think there will be different consequences for falling into each one of their traps that hasn't been implemented yet. I sincerely believe one of the mechanics of the game is debuffs to slow your progression you'll have to pay to get fixed with orgasmium, perhaps these traps will also cause debuffs too.

I love all the theories on the sexy sins. My theory on Lust is that there will be Lust storms that will erupt at random that will cause the wild ones to go beserk with horniness until she is set free. My theory on Greed is she will lay traps to f**k and rob your ass. As for Envy, I have a theory she will just ambush you at random every so often. Gluttony I think will also have traps that will cause you to lose milk and cum. Wrath is a real head scratcher though, probably minions?

There are clear signs there are more areas to be added. Hell perhaps we've only got half a map so far. The sheer size of the undersea area tells me there's a lot more to be added there, undersea nymphs and other blessed. Certain big spaces tell me there's something that's supposed to be there that hasn't been added or trails that lead to nowhere tell me eventually it will go to a new area.

Lust Storms? Please.... YOU HAVE TO TELL ME MORE ABOUT THAT!

Yeah like I said on my previous theorizing, Wrath is the one that definitely needs the foundation pieces to be set before the clockwork of that is even possible to be build upon. I'm not exactly sure on the Greed idea but after reading what you mentioned about it, it occurred to me something, what if she had some kind of hmmmm prostitute like minions that you can only sex them if you paid them, and then those tribute to Greed? I mean, that definitely starts to fit into the whole concept of greedyness hehe.

And yeah we're on the same page on Gluttony. Question is how her traps are gonna be like. I thought on a carnivore like plants that suck fluids instead of eating meat but I'm not so sure about that cause it kinda feels too similar to the dick sucking tentacles and even as a plant it looks too close to the idea of Fern/Blossom (I mean, I basically came up with the idea thinking on how those two work but in all honestly she as a sin deserves her own thing) so, no idea .w.

Envy still I have no idea how her traps could even work like. I mean, makes sense she ambushes you. Envious people are always scheming on how to take down those they envy, I just can't imagine how her traps hmmmm system? could function. Tho again, most of what I'm assuming is based on the little we know on how both Sloth and Pride work compared to other blessed nephs so

 

[Dirgha]

there's a new build available and now vagrants can jump on you and initiate sex

Yeah finally:

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Release Notes: 0.761.58

New WIP water system with dynamic splashing and caustics (ocean unaffected, it will require its own system)

Celeste can now be the daily toy

Added sex scenes with Celeste

Added sex scenes with Yasmine (finally)

Fixed issues with blessed scenes in the gallery

Moved to a more efficient way of specifying fluid FX for sex scenes. This is mostly under the hood, but it makes it easier for me to manage. It is a tedious WIP, so expect issues. Every scene will be complete before the next public build.

Fixed issues with fur jitter

Fixed daily toy issues

Added new setting to allow vagrants to initiate sex with the breeder

 

[Axelluu]

anyone got a link to the latest?