Unreal Engine Breeders of the Nephelym [v0.761.9] [DerelictHelmsman]

[iriemk]

If someone played the demo and can tell if have similar thing than BOTN >< could like to know, for now i added at my long list of many games to check & play

To a very small degree. You can tame & collect beasts as buddies (by fooling around with them). The PC can summon them at will, have fun with them and can even get preggo from the beasties. Though the summoning mechanic is seriously bugged (summoning the wrong beasts), especially if you collect human slaves too. Then you might end up not being able to summon your favorite beast-buddy at all any longer. And no interbreeding your companion animals.

And yes, you are right, it feels a lot like Oblivion or the Fallouts gameplay-wise and with regard to controls.

I only mentioned it because it is one of the better 3D NSFW games floating around on sites like F95 or LewdNinja that arent just 5 minutes demos.
Steam NSFW stuff like the official demo I sadly can't download or play, I live in Germany and our oh-so-holy censorship authorities force steam to block all adult/NSFW/porn content on their site. I can't even get into the community pages of those games. All locked out.

Still, I feel WI could be a great game one day, even in this early stage, it has kept me occupied for nearly a month now. And I'm still not sure I found everything the demo had to offer. But as I understand it, RawDarkness pretty much does this on his own, no big team anyway. Considering that, the results are terrific.

Working crafting system, albeit with only a few ingredients; a working building system (kinda like in FO4 - simpler, but still better with regards to clipping and placement); short load times and it runs damn stable on highest graphics settings. And a Kenshi-esque skill system, training only the skills you actually use in game automatically - no level-up screen, no perk-picking to distract from the action.

And it has an excellent character creator on top, one of the best I've seen in any such game. It's not as detailed or option-rich as BotN, but has a better character model to begin with and certainly beats many AAA "Blockbuster" titles like CP2077 in that regard.

My only gripe with it is somewhat clunky melee combat. Sometimes all you'll see is bodies clipping into each other and blood spurting. Especially in narrow spaces like staircases. But as long as the enemy is dead in the end and me PC is still standing, I don't really care. And it has a defeat sex mechanic, so iffen you get knocked down, you might get knocked up instead of getting shwacked.

Can only encourage everybody to test it for themselves, I think RawDarkness did a marvelous job there. Cheers.

 

[Dirgha]

If someone played the demo and can tell if have similar thing than BOTN >< could like to know, for now i added at my long list of many games to check & play

I played the demo 2years ago, found it rather ugly, awkward, and not inspiring. So I deleted it.
Now, looking at the screenshots, I guess I've played it on the lowest graphic settings, but the player character does not seem well designed anyways.
At least, in BotN everything and everyone looks pretty!

 

[iriemk]

I played the demo 2years ago, found it rather ugly, awkward, and not inspiring. So I deleted it.
Now, looking at the screenshots, I guess I've played it on the lowest graphic settings, but the player character does not seem well designed anyways.
At least, in BotN everything and everyone looks pretty!

Question of taste I guess. The BotN character model and the WI one have entirely different aesthetics, BotN model & world space is highly polished and more comic-like, WI model & world space is admittedly a little outdated & looks more rugged, closer to something out of the Fallouts from part 3 onwards (and FO is one of my fav franchises ever^^). Guess that's why I like the WI style. I don't mind a less polished look in the visuals & graphics, if the game plays & feels nice for me.

Which WI does, and it's game design goes more towards an actual fantasy role playing game than a breeding sim. It has some actual quests (even if they are simple for now) and interaction with NPCs & the game world beyond mere beasty breeding. There's at least a hint of a storyline there, you can craft & build stuff, explore the setting, interact with the world and find some hidden treasure etc. Even ride the one dragon in the game, flying over that island^^.

All things I sorely miss in Breeders of the Neph. But then it's not designed to be an RPG like WI is, story is and never was the main point here. Itz about breeding these crazy creatures into even crazier beasts (hybrids) and enjoying the scenery. The whole premise of Breeders is that Nephelym mindset, "make love, not war", right^^?! So you can't really compare the two on that level I think, woulnd't be fair to judge one against the other. Iffen I want some violent beasty action I go play WI, if I want something less stressful, i play BotN. Matter of fact, gonna try the latest BotN build from february right now, see iffen or what's new.

I'm just glad I found both these little gems, only sad I can't have them "officially" via steam.

 

[Shida]

Hy guys. Something went terrbily wrong. I loaded my save file and there is no wild nephs in the map. My clothes also bugged. Any suggestions or solutions?

 

[DoorFive]

Yeeeah, right. But iffen you're capable of kinky-ing up Skyrim properly, you gotta have some serious experience with the process of modding Bethesda games. A task that is nigh impossible for a casual gamer with zero modding know-how. Unless you know a place that has NSFW mod packages you can just-one click install. I agree 100% with your premise though, a modded Skyrim or Fallout 4 has a lot more "kink potential" with the right mod setup.

But I remember well my first semi-Luddite foray into modding FO4 with ModOrganizer2 (cuz Vortex=Useless POS), I already failed installing that thing right so it would eat the mods from Nexus. Took me a week to figure that out already. And getting the prerequisite mods for a working AAF setup was another hassle. AAF=Alternate Anim Framework, which is what enables all the kink & smut animations; dunno if itz the same framework they used for Skyrim, I only ever modded FO4 with it.
Half those mods you need don't live on the web no more, at least not the versions described in Dagobah's (the AAF creator) load order guide, so not only do you need the modding skills, you also need to know where to look for old, outdated mods that still sit on that load order list, or which mods to pick to replace em.

I want to mention the body slider in addition to what you said. It's all of that, and more! If you have custom bones and animations, you need to rig the physics onto them. I don't know how to do that shit! Bouncy boobs may appear if you have certain clothes on, or you have to rig not only the clothes, but the other crap-

It's a complicated mess.

E-even if you have an all-in-one pack, you still need to fiddle with the thing, and other stuff to make it work.

 

[iriemk]

I managed to get BotNTools to edit the Nymphomaniac trait properly. It's listed as "Nymphomania" in the game files, so I edited the lists.json file where it said "Nymphomaniac" and cut the c from the end. Works perfectly now.

Dude, literally a lifesaver. Just messed around with BotNTools the first time today, and nearly went biting-my-desk nuts cuz nympho trait wouln'd take. Then I browsed through here and saw your post. Awesome, thanks man! And that valuable tid-bit of information should be pinned.

 

[iriemk]

It's a complicated mess.

Which is why I wouldn't even dream of touching that sort of thing. Trying my hand on that complex sorta thing like 3D graphics, yeah...probaly a sure-fire way to thoroughly frustrate my semi-Luddite self. You got my deepest respect for even trying to make your own sh*t. I'm just happy if I can edit my mods to my liking.

Anyway, all this talk has me giddy about giving Fallout 4 & Human Resources (fav slaver mod) another go, but I am so not keen on spending all that time & nerves. Thanks a lot for making me long for the good ol days now, when my FO4 setup was perfectly fine-tuned and every day brought cute new raiderette slaves to my Sanctuary brothel.

 

[iriemk]

Question: Does anybody have an XP/Level chart for the breeder or a link to one? I found no info on that topic on the wiki (or anywhere else for that matter)...

 

[iriemk]

Next question: I studied the creator guide for hours, I still haven't understood most of it. What I wanna know is: How would I go about transfering only one particular detail, like cow horns or a horse c*ck, to a species that don't have it? Is it possible, if yes: How exactly? And step-by-step, please, semi-Luddite in action here

 

[iriemk]

And another one: Is there any way, be it BotNTools, some other save editor or whatever else, to increase the number of vagrants per barn? I'd really love to see more Nephs (ideally, the whole zoo) running around homestead, doing their shenanigans & fooling around, even if it puts a strain on my rig....

 

[johnma8]

Question: Does anybody have an XP/Level chart for the breeder or a link to one? I found no info on that topic on the wiki (or anywhere else for that matter)...

Unfortunately the only way to gain XP in BotN is by breeding, and there's no charts for it. The max level is 100.

Next question: I studied the creator guide for hours, I still haven't understood most of it. What I wanna know is: How would I go about transfering only one particular detail, like cow horns or a horse c*ck, to a species that don't have it? Is it possible, if yes: How exactly? And step-by-step, please, semi-Luddite in action here

There is no real way to transfer individual details through Creator Mode. It's meant for creating presets that you can find on wild Nephylems.

And another one: Is there any way, be it BotNTools, some other save editor or whatever else, to increase the number of vagrants per barn? I'd really love to see more Nephs (ideally, the whole zoo) running around homestead, doing their shenanigans & fooling around, even if it puts a strain on my rig....

There was a Cheat Engine table a long time ago that could set the number to 250, but going any higher would cause other issues. I'm not sure how to do that change and BotNTools is not capable of it either.

 

[johnma8]

Hy guys. Something went terrbily wrong. I loaded my save file and there is no wild nephs in the map. My clothes also bugged. Any suggestions or solutions?

If you tried loading a save that's from an earlier version of the game this is a known issue. There's a flag the developer has set that causes this.

 

[iriemk]

Unfortunately the only way to gain XP in BotN is by breeding, and there's no charts for it. The max level is 100.

There is no real way to transfer individual details through Creator Mode. It's meant for creating presets that you can find on wild Nephylems.

There was one a long time ago that could set the number to 250, but going any higher would cause other issues. I'm not sure how to do that change and BotNTools is not capable of it either.

Alrighty to the first, but on the second: I saw a bunch of options in regards to appearance in the BotNTools settings, is there any way to do it with that? And: are those presets that are tagged as "removed" on the wiki still present in older game versions? Would warrant downloading those that look nice enough and migrate them to the new build version...

And you misunderstood me on the third. Wasn't asking for max barn cap, 60 is plenty. Was asking about having more vagrants running around my homestead. Would love to be able to set more than 1 per barn to wander around.

 

[johnma8]

Alrighty to the first, but on the second: I saw a bunch of options in regards to appearance in the BotNTools settings, is there any way to do it with that? And: are those presets that are tagged as "removed" on the wiki still present in older game versions? Would warrant downloading those that look nice enough and migrate them to the new build version...

And you misunderstood me on the third. Wasn't asking for max barn cap, 60 is plenty. Was asking about having more vagrants running around my homestead. Would love to be able to set more than 1 per barn to wander around.

You can use BotNTools to alter your appearance yes. I would recommend using two instances of BotNTools and make sure you use two of the same gender. Unfortunately you cannot add things like dicks to females that are not futa. The amount of vagrants running around would need some other kind of mod since BotNTools can not change that value, and I don't think anyone would be willing to attempt modding this game.

 

[DV93]

Right, I was looking for a good game like this... but the reviews have me wary. I also saw Wicked Island, have it downloaded, but am also unsure of whether I want to get into it, it seems early in development and this one seems to have things being put behind walls of grind, which is unpleasant. Is there a game anyone can recommend that is like this, and Wicked Island, but... well, not AS flawed?

 

[Dirgha]

Is there a game anyone can recommend that is like this?

I'd say, if it was possible to combine Breeders of the Nephelym, The Last Barbarian, and Carnal Instinct, that would make a perfect game!

 

[iriemk]

I'd say, if it was possible to combine Breeders of the Nephelym, The Last Barbarian, and Carnal Instinct, that would make a perfect game!

I second that. Carnal Instinct is the most polished of the three at this point, but the demo only has about 4-5 hours playtime tops, then you doned all quests & seen all the smut it currently has. That is another title I would be willing to pay good money for on steam, but again - itz blocked over here. Fark censorship. I would also throw in a pinch of Wicked Island, for the crafting and building part, that none of the others got.

 

[iriemk]

You can use BotNTools to alter your appearance yes. I would recommend using two instances of BotNTools and make sure you use two of the same gender. Unfortunately you cannot add things like dicks to females that are not futa. The amount of vagrants running around would need some other kind of mod since BotNTools can not change that value, and I don't think anyone would be willing to attempt modding this game.

But I could give my mean-looking black & red demon mare bovine horns, yes?

 

[Shida]

If you tried loading a save that's from an earlier version of the game this is a known issue. There's a flag the developer has set that causes this.

Well......thats sad. Thank you my friend. I think its time to catch them all! XD Again.

 

[iriemk]

Alrighty, I just tested v.058 vs v.059, .059 has one serious shortcuming - sorry for the pun - the ejac anim is missing in most scenes. Chars still get splattered, but the stains just appear out of nowhere. Iffen you're irked by this kinda glitch, stick with v.058.

And I gotta gameplay question:

How do ability scores and their ranks correspond on my breeder stat sheet? I did level her up to lvl 35, mostly with BotNTools, and shes got Lust 25 / Fertility 25 / Aptitude 21, and the ranks is 2/2/1 (or D/D/E in-game). It went up from 1 to 2 around score 15-16 for the former two, why not for aptitude as well? And just checked saves from my very first go around on v.053, without any meddling with BotNTools, I got to lvl 39, my scores were 23/23/23 with ranks 1/1/1. What gives?

What other values influence these ranks? Would prefer to finally understand the XP & level-up concept instead of bumbling around, wondering what's up? Seems unneccesarily convoluted tbh.

And on another note: I found that "Diminiutive" & "Enlarged" traits are not accessible with BotNTools. Can I just add these to lists.json file and be done with it, or do they need to be referenced anywhere else?