iriemk

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Spirit form keep naked when goes to sleep :unsure:
I pondered this comment of yours, and it gave me an idea how to keep clothes off when I go sleep. Actually found a neat little loophole, that can also make for some interesting cock-combos:

I indeed used a spirit form, at first one with a human cock, but removed all attachments (like horns, fur or hooves) & removed the -mostly awful- skin textures. Then pasted the regular human MC's shape & color-scheme over that. Looks just like regular human form, but cannot equip clothes, thus stays naked on sleep. Solved.

But: Then I got to think, some hominal variants do have animal cocks, so loaded bovaur mare futa form and repeated the process above. What was left - a regular human body, but with an horse cock. Adjusted color, done. Looks pretty wild, having some bovaur shlong dangling between the legs :p .
 

Axelluu

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we're all talking about animal dicks on futas instead of the normal human dicks huh? I've been wanting that forever, hopefully dev makes this a priority.
 

iriemk

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I pondered this comment of yours, and it gave me an idea how to keep clothes off when I go sleep. Actually found a neat little loophole, that can also make for some interesting cock-combos...
But also found out by now that, iffen you don't wanna meet animal-cock futa Mini-me or Maxi-Me variants of your regular human breeder form among the wild neph in their respective spawning grounds, you better off doing such shenanigans with hybrids neph spirit forms that do not occur in the wild.
 

iriemk

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we're all talking about animal dicks on futas instead of the normal human dicks huh? I've been wanting that forever, hopefully dev makes this a priority.
Like I wrote above, gotta jump through some hoops, but it works with current variant editor, iffen you want animal dick on human breeder. Looks pretty wild, having human body and horse cock ;). Copy & paste your regular human breeder form over a futa wild (or hybrid) neph with animal cock, remove all attachments & skin texture, adjust dick colors - Presto: Get regular human shape body, but with the animal dick.

As for animal cock on hominal neph forms...yeah. Speaking as a character creator junky, having made some 200+ neph character presets myself since I first discovered the game like 3-4 months ago...I honestly wish Dev would've made that possible from get-go, agree 110%.
Animal cocks on hominal variants woulda made for some very interesting combos. But as it isn't an option right now, and latest build is utterly broken in other departments (like cumshots visuals), adding yet something new shouldn't be a priority over repairing what the latest update wrecked thoroughly imho. But just my 5 cents.
 
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johnma8

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Yeah, sounds kinda like what happened when I tried to make small & tiny bees or put horns on my mare spirit form. Seems the game really hates when you mess with that stuff :rolleyes: . Maybe itz about version compatibility, I think BotNTools was written for an older game version, right? Possible it would work on that previous version any better? Dunno enough about that sorta thing.

But it can't be that difficult a change...it is already possible to change the "Dick Style" in shape section of the editor from the spotted "horse-cock" on the bovaur futa mares to the "regular" bovaur-cock.

And all cocks have the same options in editor with regards to colors etc, so even with my admittedly limited understanding of these things, seems to me iz only a question of attaching those alternate shapes to the slider.

So to repeat a question I asked before: What programs / tools would I have to learn to get into the game files and rummage around & find what I need to change, to make -apparently- simple shit, like attach alternate dick shapes to sliders or more vagranbts in homestead, happen?

You wouldn't be able to do that kind of thing without the source code. Any features that Nephylem or the MC has can not be transferred to others purely because those features are not a seperate entity. They're not considered attachements, and the attachments that are present are unique to the Nephylem it came on. The Variant Editor pretty much shows you the combinations you can make, but those combinations exist only for that particular Nephylem.
 

iriemk

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You wouldn't be able to do that kind of thing without the source code. The Variant Editor pretty much shows you the combinations you can make, but those combinations exist only for that particular Nephylem.
Aware of that. That was my question, how do get at the code? Which programs allow for messing with Unreal code in a fashion suitable for BotN? Even iffen I cannot get at this particular issue, there is other things I'd love to mess with (without visual changes like the cock thing), like allowing greater spawn numbers in the wild or more vagrants at Homestead. More vagrants = more shenanigans :love:.

The Variant Editor pretty much shows you the combinations you can make, but those combinations exist only for that particular Nephylem.
Got around that particular issue. Made me some hybrid neph spirit forms that come with animal shlongs, pasted human breeder futa form over it, voila - human breeder with horse cock. Needs to be hybrids though, otherwise you'll find Mini-Me's or Maxi-Me's running around certain spawning grounds. Good for a laugh or two, but not really what I wanna see in my game ;) .
 

absynth3

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If I breed two foxen, one male and one female, and both have kindhearted, does that mean that the less xp they receive gets negated by other others kindhearted and it actually gets more xp?
 

SoupChunk

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I've got a question regarding spirit form. How would I go about adding traits to my spirit form? I've figured out how to put traits on the regular form using the save editors that have been posted, but none of them have the option to add traits to spirit form.
 

iriemk

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I've got a question regarding spirit form. How would I go about adding traits to my spirit form? I've figured out how to put traits on the regular form using the save editors that have been posted, but none of them have the option to add traits to spirit form.
Check the links in this one. BotNTools is the tool of choice for this matter. I have no clue about previous versions, I am on v.053 now (the most recent with un-broken cumshot visuals btw), and for this version it works dandy with regards to adding breeder traits. My MC is a motherly, loving, seriously hung hornball and she's a veeery effective futa momma^^.

Just load a save file up in BotNTools (it should auto-select the most recent one when you click the little "..." button), then click the "LOAD" button. Then look for the "Traits" section in your character tab and add traits to your heart's content. After you're done, do not forget to click the "APPLY" button and only then the "SAVE" button, otherwise your edits won't work. When saving, replace the OG file in your OBF save folder (located within AppData/local/OBF) with the new one and you're golden.
 
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iriemk

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I've got a question regarding spirit form. How would I go about adding traits to my spirit form? I've figured out how to put traits on the regular form using the save editors that have been posted, but none of them have the option to add traits to spirit form.
You will need to fiddle a little to get the "nymphomania" trait to be applied & displayed correctly on your breeder though, if you want it (and honestly who doesn't ;)). As this incarnation of BotNTools it STILL has a typo in it's lists.json file (as it had in the ages-older version I was using until recently...), which will prevent you from simply slapping it on via BotNTools edit, iffen you don't fix that oversight before yourself.

The relevant "lists.json" file you need to change is located in the BotNTools_0.10/Core folder. Open it with an editor like notepad++, find the entry via search ("nymphomaniac") and change it from "nymphomaniac" to "nymphomania". Save, close editor. Open BotNTools, check the traits tab, slap it on and now it should appear in-game properly on breeding session stat tabs and the ESC breeder tab. Done :).
 
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iriemk

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I've got a question regarding spirit form. How would I go about adding traits to my spirit form? I've figured out how to put traits on the regular form using the save editors that have been posted, but none of them have the option to add traits to spirit form.
Aaand...I think I may have misread or misunderstood your previous comment. Any traits you add with BotNTools would be applied to both spirit form and human form alike. Game doesn't distingiush between the two with regards to gameplay effects, which would be a REALLY nice idea though.

Iffen you want actual, visual MC form to have an influence on gameplay, try out the older UE4 version of Carnal Instinct. Cock shape actually can change quest outcome, like only access to quest reward if cock is big enough, with average size you don't get any until you switch it to horsecock^^.

I'd love to see something like it in BotN, iffen different spirit forms had different traits attached, would make changing spirit form an actual factor in breeding desired variants with desired traits. Would make the whole breeding aspect a lot more interesting in fact, since all wild neph species got a "preferred trait" already that the breeder could take on with this mechanic :love:!

But really, iffen you were hoping to get a hornball foxen form, a fertile cow form and a bigtit demon form, sry that ain't how this works in the current iteration of this game. Iz either one with all traits, or no traits. And all contingent on using BotNTools.

This idea of yours would be a huge improvement for the game though. No shit, go tell the dev. No, go yell at him, until he frakking listens and implements this, itz an awesome idea! Traits for spirit forms! Even if he don't listen most of the time, from what I understand :rolleyes: .
 
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If I breed two foxen, one male and one female, and both have kindhearted, does that mean that the less xp they receive gets negated by other others kindhearted and it actually gets more xp?
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Kindhearted makes the another mate earn more xp and the another less, that depend of the trait level I, II & III
So foxen male gives more xp to the female, but get less while, same about female, so both at end get the same, unless one of them have level I and the another level II (trait)

fox male with kh trait I + fox fem with kh trait I = both get the same xp
fox male with kh trait II + fox fem with kh trait I = the male earn less xp, but gives more to the fem

i recommend better get the Efficient trait tbh is the best about XP , atleast for me its :unsure:
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is this worth playing?
My current play though is a guy, and I have futa's turned off. I changed my fur color to where a bunch of super sayian spring up whenever I spread my seed around.
There is no gay content, so the other boys don't mess with me, which is great. Instead, I just get jumped on by (random) strange women, which is even better!

It depends on what you are looking to get out of the game. I got to the point where I just use the cheats in whole sale except maybe a few exceptions (I enjoy having to sell the fluids I have at the market to trade for other...fluids. Also the Essence leveling up challenge is sometimes fun.) Once you get all the obstacles out of the way and you can just get a hand full of nephs, it becomes funner.

While it has a great foundation, it still lacks in areas. Like animation variety, sound, voice. I'm pretty sure it's always the same moans everytime.

Still a great breeding game though. If you like passing your genetics down and experimenting with generations, then this game is for you.
 
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iriemk

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Any features that Nephylem or the MC has can not be transferred to others purely because those features are not a seperate entity.
That I don't believe. Well, I believe they are locked to certain variants, and currently we players cannot access that part of the game. So in that regard, they are inseparable, right.

But mechanically, visually - looking at the female hominal body model, it's basically the same as the breeder. Maybe modfied by some templates like chubby for giants or slimmy for tabbies, but ultimately it's all the same base female body mesh. Only difference is the attachments tacked on to different species & variants. I mean, look at the human-cock futas without any pubic hair to cover the seam, them dickies look like glued-on dildos :D. Really wanna tell me those are intrinsically fixed parts of the respective body models? No way!

Even with current limitations, you can make a bunch of spirit forms with the same base female body as your breeder, but different animal cocks slapped on it, as I worte above. Use neph species that DO have animal cock on hominal form as base, remove all attachments & skin textures, paste human breeder shape & color scheme, fine-tune color & shape, done. Currently has horse, bovaur, foxen, vulwarg, demon and dragon cock on human forms in my spirit form repertoire.

Same goes for all other "attachments" -I count everything that isn't part of base body model under that, arm/leg style, horns, ears, tails, wings, hairstyles, dicks- which could be looked at basically like clothes in an NPCs inventory list. You can already set all of those to "off" or "invisible" in the editor, and with access to the individual NPCs in the code, it would be an easy feat to add or exchange pieces as well.

All I'm trying to say is, technically it shouldn't be too difficult, Dev (or some crafty modder) could likely implement "interspecies dick exchange" feature with a few clicks, like adding piece of clothing or equpiment to an NPCs loot list...so we all know it probably ain't gonna happen anytime soon, right ;)?
 

cooties69

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Just to check, since the multiple types of protag tags can be confusing. Is this a Pick Your Gender, Your Gender Can Change Over the Story, or a Multiple POV game?
 
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