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[Censored] tag is missing. Does anyone have the uncensored version?
Unity Britney's Journey [v0.2.62] [Cinema Lumiron]
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I think the censorship decision will hurt you more than it gains you. Soon this thread will be tagged as [Censored] and at that point fewer new people will be checking the game out than ever before. I know for a fact I'm not going to check out a game that is censored just because the dev wants more money. Sooner or later the uncensored version will find its way here anyway and then I might check it out, but not a second sooner. On another note: Paywalling content has never been popular here and doing so risks your project getting review bombed by people upset by it and costing you even more potential patrons. I understand your frustration, I really do, but your proposed solutions aren't the way to go.
Many projects can survive and even thrive from donations that aren't getting anything in return. If this is not you, the the question you should be asking isn't "What's wrong with the people not supporting this project?", it's "Whats wrong with this project?". Do some market research, find a focus group, ask people what would make them support the project. Do some statistics. But most importantly of all: Have a production schedule with frequent updates so people can see that you're really working on the project.
Here are some suggestions that won't piss people off:
* Offer paying patrons a way to influence future development. Let them name characters et c. Place easter eggs in the game referencing patrons.
* Highlight patreons donations in the game with a "wall of fame" or similar.
* Offer custom artworks.
* Cultivate an active community and assign community roles (such as moderator) to paying patrons.
* Give patrons early releases of new content (for example, release the last version for free when a new version is published to patrons.)
Good luck mate.
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Really love the artstyle and vibe of the game.
Hope to see more from this creator and maybe with a male protagonist for the self insert aspect.
Just a bit sad it keeps crashing so much in act 2.
Hope to see more from this creator and maybe with a male protagonist for the self insert aspect.
Just a bit sad it keeps crashing so much in act 2.
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It's interesting how when most people receive incremental pay for their work it's called a "salary" but when a game developer does it you call it "lottery tickets"
Don't you think there should be a model for people to make things that isn't being a lucky runaway viral success?
- Aug 16, 2017
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Agreed with your entire post, well said.
I do feel for the dev, game development is very difficult especially doing it all on your own, obviously there have been some very talented indie devs who can manage this but most aren't that talented and or have the time which is why most of these games get abandoned before being finished.
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Maybe it's worth a try talking to people from some studios who already released few full games? Like HFT Games or Flexible Media.
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You brought up lottery tickets originally, not me. Workers receive a salary in exchange for something. The company is profiting off the employee's labor. It's the same thing with a publisher: they fund a game or pay the developers in exchange for profit; they expect some kind of RoI, they're not just funding a game because gosh darn it, this game really needs to come out. Patreon developers expect people to give them a salary in exchange for nothing.
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I doubt that you have the skills or knowledge to accurately determine what Patreon developers expect, nor what Patreon patrons expect. Patreon and its ilk is not a standard market model, because idie game devs (and YouTubers, etc) like the ones on Patreon can't afford to defer compensation while they finish a product. They are more like exactly what the name implies: they are clients who have patrons that pay them to support their work, not to purchase a product. Traditionally, that's the way artists made their living before they achieved fame, and all their patrons got out of that was the glory of being known as that artist's patron.
alright i bit the bullet and paid for the patreon (not going to post anything, dont ask). that being said, not sure how long im going to sub for.
this is an apples to oranges comment. you named some of the best auteur creators in the industry, look at the thousand of indie games on steam and itch and look how many never release a second game because they just failed to get recognized.
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The scenes are 3d and quite different to the 2d art. The gallery illustrations are supposed to be rewards for every unlocked scene. Unfortunately their art is very inconsistent because the artist is doing commissions very rarely now and I'm putting placeholder screenshots for the missing ones. Also he was much less experienced when he did the first 3 illustrations. The other two from the second level are much better.
The guy who's doing all the 3d art now is also very good with 2d, but the amount of 3d work is overwhelming now and I'll look for a new guy most probably.
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Reminds me of a few other games that had mad potential, and ruined it by way of monetization. Guys that leave their games free have more success. For instance, Piggy Princess, dood makes $14k a month off a free game. Yah, it is a lottery, but it isn't luck. This is porn, porn is free, any paying for porn is a suckers move. People supporting artists is based.
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In fact Jonathan Blow had the same problem - not enough time for his personal project because of 9to5 jobs. Finally he took a loan from a friend to get Braid finished.
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Yes, Jonathan Blow took a loan to fund the project. And I believe Toby Fox, Lucas Pope, and Eric Barone all put their projects on Kickstarter to get the projects funded. But you're not asking for money on Kickstarter, which requires a single payment and generally comes with the agreement that you'll receive the finished game if the funding goal is met. You're asking for money on Patreon, so that people can give you monthly payments for an indefinite amount of time. You have tiers for $20 and $50 a month, amounts of money that could get someone fully completed indie or AAA games with dozens, if not hundreds of hours of content. And what does that $20 or $50 get you here? According to the changelog, a single quest and a save system versus the previous build.
I should ultimately clarify that I'm not having a go at you as a person, you as a developer, or your project. My issue is with the Patreon system as a whole. The one thing with you that I do take issue with is resenting your potential audience for not giving you money, when you haven't provided something worth giving you money for yet.
I should ultimately clarify that I'm not having a go at you as a person, you as a developer, or your project. My issue is with the Patreon system as a whole. The one thing with you that I do take issue with is resenting your potential audience for not giving you money, when you haven't provided something worth giving you money for yet.
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"Worth giving you money" is very subjective, the previous public build turned out pretty nice (in my and some players' opinions), but it didn't improve the income at all.
About the fundamental Patreon controversy you're talking about - I sent the full build to all old non active patrons that didn't instantly unsubscribe. And I'll keep doing this because they've already paid the price. (If I've missed someone here please send me your patreon username).
Btw the game is partially censored. The first level and the gallery illustrations are intact. Also I'll start unlocking some of the second level scenes in the following releases.
About the fundamental Patreon controversy you're talking about - I sent the full build to all old non active patrons that didn't instantly unsubscribe. And I'll keep doing this because they've already paid the price. (If I've missed someone here please send me your patreon username).
Btw the game is partially censored. The first level and the gallery illustrations are intact. Also I'll start unlocking some of the second level scenes in the following releases.
Partially censored? Censorship is always partial (certain parts are censored). That is not very convincing to me. I will leave it on my ignore list.