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Earliestbird

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I'm brand new to tagging, but I managed to create a pack that the tagging tool (somehow) rated B+. I saw there was no Witcher packs yet, so I made one for Ciri. I usually prefer quality over quantity, so I searched for the best artwork out there and got a nice little pack of 148 pics. But eh, who am I kidding, it probably sucks. Nevertheless, I'll share it with you guys and if you have any feedback and tips feel free to send them my way.

Updated: 223 pics, A+



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Leortha

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I'm brand new to tagging, but I managed to create a pack that the tagging tool (somehow) rated B+. I saw there was no Witcher packs yet, so I made one for Ciri. I usually prefer quality over quantity, so I searched for the best artwork out there and got a nice little pack of 148 pics. But eh, who am I kidding, it probably sucks. Nevertheless, I'll share it with you guys and if you have any feedback and tips feel free to send them my way.
I'll give it a full review in a little bit. I like giving detailed reviews to new pack creators. nipping bad habits early, etc. :)

As for the rating, it effectively says two separate things. The letter tells the breadth of the pack, and the +/- tells the depth.

For the letter, this basically is a judgement of how many useful tags and tag combinations are covered. As a common creator, I'll say that I rarely get this stat over a B. Just too many things to be covered.

For the +/-, this is basically saying, over the entire pack, does it have a good average depth/variety for each tag.
 

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Review of Ciri pack:

I'll expressly note that I generally comment on most issues only once, even if I see that issue repeated in later pics.

1) Clean out the TRASH pics before you post. They are pics you have told the tool you want to exclude, they have no useful purpose in the final pack. You pack is actually 128 pics, not 148, because of this.

2) If you end up doing more than this one, please zip up the individual packs. Much easier to download.

3) Thank you for the WEBP conversion. Very good step.

4) anal cin doggy cumshot creampie (00000).webp - Not seeing the "creampie" in this image. While it's definitely not impossible to have "cum inside" and creampie in the same image, they are usually mutually exclusive. If the dick is still inside, it's cin, and not creampie. And if there is not currently a dick in the girl, it's the other way around.

5) anal fetish spank public bondage denied (00000).webp - Could also go with Group on this one, as there is a second person standing over her head.

6) beast anal doggy (00000).webp - This hits a number of times. When the farm tags Beast or Monster are used, most tags other than sex act tags and naked become meaningless. In this specific case, "doggy". This is to prevent beastiality and tentacle porn images from popping up in non-farm settings. So particularly and fixation/phobia tags are pointless at this time. Pics tagged with Big and Machine can still show up in non-farm situations.

7) bisexual naked sex mast lesbian kiss finger orgasm (00000).webp - Naked is the single most complicated tag in the game, and the hardest for new taggers to get right. In this specific case, once you use one of the sex act tags, Naked is redundant. Sex act pics assume Naked, so tagging them with it serves no purpose.

8) bisexual naked sex mast lesbian kiss finger orgasm (00000).webp - Same pic as the last point. The sex-act tag "Sex" is specifically for situations where a dick (or tentacle) is either inserted in a girl's pussy, or was/will be in the immediate past or future. So it is generally not appropriate to use it in fully lesbian pics.

9) bisexual service bis buk cih cim cob cof oral cumshot cum shower (00000).webp - This pic shows that you are using a fairly old version of the image namer. The abbreviations CIH, CIM, COB, etc have not been generated by the more recent versions of the tool because there is possibility of conflict with other words.

10) bisexual sex bis doggy cowgirl (00000).webp - There have been extensive debates about the following on the main BK board. But current status is that bisexual is for at least one male and 2+ females, and group is for 1+ females and 2+ males. If it's 2+ males and 2+ females, an orgy pic like this, it should get both.

Continued in next post...
 

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Continuing:

11) bisexual sex mast public kiss finger (00000).webp - For Mast to apply, she should be doing it to herself. If someone else is doing it, it's fingering, which you already have tagged.

12) dancer dance (00000).webp - This and the "bisexual bis" thing in some other issues is a long-fixed bug in the tagger that is another indication that you are using an old version of the tagger. Latest can be found here:

13) dancer dance fight (00000).webp - Another about issues with the Naked tag. It's absence in this case. This is one of my personal immersion breakers. The game makes such a big deal of the issue of the girl's mental state vs when she is willing to get naked, that it's quite jarring to run into pics of her partially or fully naked in situations where she has not yet mentally reached the point of accepting this. So a topless pic like this really should be tagged Naked in order to allow the game to avoid showing it in the wrong times. There are other pics with this issue. In general, if a pic has her naked at all, and is not a farm or sex act tagged pic, it likely needs the Naked tag.

14) group deep (00000).webp - Group is a modifier tag. It modifies the four sex act tags, and does not really mean anything outside their context. In this case both Sex and Anal are appropriate. As an addition note the Deep tag does not reflect the pic. I wonder if you meant to click Double, which is close to Deep, and is appropriate.

15) monster (00000).webp - The four farm tags, Big, Monster, Beast, and Machine, serve as modifiers to the sex act tags. And in a farm context Naked counts as an act, not a modifier like it usually counts. As I said, the most complex tag. But back to Farm tags, they are pointless on their own. They should be pairs with at least one of the sex act tags and possibly Group or Bisexual.

16) portrait naked (00000).webp - For technical reasons in the game, Portrait and Profile pics should never be wider than they are tall. Portrait format not landscape.

17) profile dancer naked dance lesbian wet (00000).webp - I don't know the Witcher characters, but unless these are both the same girl, there's an issue here. Profile pics are used by the game to show exactly who she is. They should never be multi-character images, or it confuses who is the slave. That said, pics of multiple copies of the same girl work fine.

18) profile dancer dance strip (00001).webp - This one likely should get the Libido tag. Think of the Libido tag as being on a scale with the Naked tag and no tag. No tag, she's fully clothed. If she's technically clothed, but it's getting to be risque, then it should be tagged Libido. Libido-tagged pics do not get used until a girl's Libido stat is over a certain level. And then, once the clothes come off, it gets the naked tag. A mesh top like this, nipples showing, isn't technically Naked, but would absolutely be something that the girl would not wear until her Libido, her horniness, reaches a certain level.

19) rest naked mast finger orgasm (00000).webp - Opposite of an earlier issue. She's doing it to herself, so "Finger" does not apply to this pic.

20) service fondle (00000).webp - Fondle is for someone else doing it to her.

To be continued....
 

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Continuing....

21) service mast cumshot (00000).webp - This one deserves the creampie tag.

22) sex fetish sub piledriver bondage (00000).webp - Not a piledriver position pic. That said, piledriver can be a hard pic to find art for, and in the absence of an appropriate pic, it's not a horrid thing to use the tag on another sex pic.

And, that's all. Overall, not a bad first try. Not at all. Please do not take the comments as being hyper critical. They are all intended to be given as constructive criticism, to help your future efforts be even better.
 

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Really appreciate the detailed feedback, you answered some things I wasn't sure about in the process. I'll fix the pack soon. At first I was concerned it doesn't have enough images and variety, but if people like this one, I might try some other western characters like Quiet from MSG or Riven, Kindred, Nida, etc from LoL.

I'll update the tagging tool, I was using version 2.7 (downloaded from the forum thread by Goldo, first post).

Edit: Updated the pack and the original link. Also, somehow the pack became A+ .... Uh I'm not sure about that, but thanks for the faith in me mr. tagging algorythm.
 
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Made a pack for Riven (League of Legends). 152 pictures, B+. Based on my own gameplay, I usually try to involve as much group content as possible since that's what all my girls eventually end up doing (gotta make that money). Decent farm pics as well. Maybe not as high quality art as my previous pack though.

Just realized, but I might have a thing for white-haired girls with swords. First Ciri now Riven. Oh well.

Link the same:

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Really appreciate the detailed feedback, you answered some things I wasn't sure about in the process.
Here's another suggestion. Include a _BK.ini file in each pack. This is basically a programming file for each girl. There are a huge number of things you can do with it to add unique tweaks to a girl, but there is one element that makes it indispensable for my packs.

Without a ini file, the game looks at the folder for the girl pack and makes best guesses at her name. If you want to be at all creative with the pack names, this creates problems.

If you include an ini file, one of the things you can do is tell the game exactly what she should be named. You can define whether the name sticks for only unique girls, or if it holds for clones, etc. Even if you don't do anything else in the ini file, this is very powerful and very useful. It frees you up to name the packs in whatever format that you want. Take a peek through my Mega for various naming examples.

Anyway, I'll link below a great, neutral sample _BK.ini file. I normally copy&paste a copy of this into every pack directory as I build the packs, then I edit the copy and at least set her name.




Edit: Adding samples of how I name my packs, in ways that greatly confuse the game's default name-parsing logic. Show name or hero name in the middle of the girl's name.

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When playing I have the name = folder name enabled, and then I usually re-name the girls quickly once I have them, but I see how the ini is much more convenient. I'll try and play around with the BK.ini in the future. Right now I'm having fun finding pictures for Yennefer. Turns out Witcher has a large amount of good quality animation/video content, so I might grab screenshots from there.

Just a heads up, I've seen your post on the hentaihighschool forum about my pack (thanks!), but the link changed since then. I figured out I should use Mega folders heh. I'll keep up the updates and if anyone notices mistakes that are surely present, please let me know.

Edit: Uploded the BK.ini files
 
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Yennefer (Witcher) pack. 167 pictures, BK ini included, A+. Take this rating with a shovel of salt; the pack is 10 MB (???) and I'm still learning both the game and the tagging tool. No idea why I'm getting these ratings when I see packs with 400~ pictures and only B or C ranks. Luck, or some mistake on my part.

Art is similar to the Ciri pack, no anime content.

Edit: Updated to 191 pictures.




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Tristana (League of Legends) pack. 166 pictures, B+. Cartoonish artstyle, small sized character (is that even a category?).
I think the reduced file size comes from this converter program I started using called XnConvert.




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From user on the main BK board:

Here's a link to my Brothel King MEGA:

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Updated all of my packs with basic _BK.ini files for now. I'll probably go back and give them more personalized ones later if I come around to it, but it's there if anyone wants to have it. (If someone goes ahead and modifies one of them to their liking feel free to send it to me and I can add it to the base pack, otherwise they'll remain more or less as they are for the foreseeable future)

I've also uploaded a couple of packs that have been sitting completed on my computer to my Mega (Artoria Lancer (Fate), Minamoto no Raikou (Fate), Ruby Rose (RWBY), Mizuki Yukikaze (Mahou Kaiju), Cecilia Alcott (Infinite Stratos), Atago (Azur Lane), Jeanne [Alter and Ruler] (Fate), and Kanu Unchou (Ikkitousen) from what I can remember. They should all be sitting at A+ so if they aren't shoot me a message and I'll go see if I uploaded the wrong version)

I'll slowly be adding them into the log here as I get to it, but they're there for you if you want them now.

Note: Jeanne Alter isn't enough of a difference from the existing pack that is in the large excel sheet so I won't be posting a separate post for that. (It's only ~50 pics larger so not enough of a diff for me)

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Name: Minamoto no Raikou
Universe: Fate
Pics: 848
Rank: A+
Type: Anime

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Name: Artoria Pendragon (Lancer)
Universe: Fate
Pics: 625
Rank: A+
Type: Anime

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Name: Jeanne D'Arc
Universe: Fate
Pics: 996
Rank: A+
Type: Anime

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Name: Atago
Universe: Azur Lane
Pics: 564
Rank: A+
Type: Anime

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And just to set the record straight, Tristana is NOT a furry :mad:
With almost 900 images on file, E621 (a furry-only site) appears to disagree with you.


It's the ears.

But anyway, I made a judgement call. But I can see how she's a borderline case. And this is something that, in most cases, is fine to let the pack maker make the call. So her entry in the google doc has been updated.

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I'll also note that, if you would like to be the one to add your packs to the document, you are more than welcome to do so. That would give you control over what goes into the entries, prevent repeats of a situation like this, and save me some work. Here's the submission link:
 
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With almost 900 images on file, E621 (a furry-only site) appears to disagree with you.


It's the ears.

But anyway, I made a judgement call. But I can see how she's a borderline case. And this is something that, in most cases, is fine to let the pack maker make the call. So her entry in the google doc has been updated.

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I'll also note that, if you would like to be the one to add your packs to the document, you are more than welcome to do so. That would give you control over what goes into the entries, prevent repeats of a situation like this, and save me some work. Here's the submission link:
I'm personally in the camp that believes that she leans closer to the furry artstyle and preference more than normal stylistic choices. The combination of the ears plus the over exaggerated SD body type and the shape of her face all pretty much fit into the borderline category since most of her art seems more stylistically in-line with furry preferences as opposed to just a simple kemonomimi preference.
 
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