Ren'Py Brothel King [v0.3] [Goldo]

[Jman9]

But it seems like there's no point since each job just utilizes one or two stats?

Each job and sex act uses 4 stats, but the last two have very minimal effect.

She can be a waitress or a masseuse but what's the benefit of being able to do both?

Not much. Flexibility for scheduling issues, perhaps.


But there is indeed the feature that a maxed girl is more of a liability than an asset because upkeep raises with stats, while most stats don't really get used for any single job. That - and the existence of 'Focus' - also mean that a specialised whore tends to work better than a generalist. Unless your whore roster is very small.

Main stats do make a girl more attractive during the matchmaking phase, but AFAICT it has no real effect on the result. Back when I was tweaking the formulas, I made whore performance also take customer tastes into account (he likes spunky girls, one with high charm gets a better score servicing him), but I guess Goldo doesn't want to overcomplicate things like I did.

...currently I get like 200 visitors...

That might be a problem. Are you leveling up your customers, i.e. inviting higher tiers? There will be less of them and each one will pay more. Also, raising advertising also gives each customer a bigger budget. Conversely, turning off advertising slashes their budgets.

I guess my real question is, what does an ideal girl look like end game, and is there one ideal that every girl ends up at or does it depend on something?

I'd like to say specialised girls are better, but isn't mood still so easy to raise that lowering upkeep will let you trivialise their expenses?



Edit:

Default could have a perfect fit, but has not variety and this is a heavy drawback.

Well, you can always add more 'default' pictures whenever you feel a lack of variety. And this lack of variety is normally a lot less of a problem. It's just the Work&Whore pictures that have this as a particularly thorny issue.

In a perfect world we could easily find enough images to cover every situation for every girl pack. In reality this is not possible.

You can always take an existing, mildly ambiguous 'anal ...' pic and make it into an 'anal waitress masseuse dancer geisha ...' pic.

I doubt that Goldo would change his state of mind about the issue.

I'm not so sure. I don't remember this coming up right now (although it could have) and you do have a pretty strong case for lack of variety. Goldo's on record (well, no longer since the old forums are kaput ) as preferring variety over exact fits. I was the person arguing for precision, and the reason the 'advanced training: better accuracy/variety' toggle exists.

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[JustForTheGame]

If you restart the game and try again, does it still happen? These infinite loop things can be tricky to track down.

Edit: You are not playing in dev mode, are you?

Edit2: I just tried with a random starter girl, and no infinite loops. Can you post a save? And are you playing on a laptop or some other form of potato?

SLR! Welp, I didn't bother to continue. I just took out the girlpack, switched to a different one and made a new game. I didn't bother being fussed up about it since I was still in chapter 1. Oh and sorry to say I deleted the everything, and reinstalled the game with a fresh zip download. You know, just to double tap so to speak. It didn't occur again after that.

BTW Does anyone know where to change the things in where I interact with my girls with their Advance training? regarding the amount of times per day, how much energy they spent per training and what not? I would appreciate if you guys can help. Please and thanks. either through the files or console; either is fine.

 

[Jman9]

I just took out the girlpack, switched to a different one and made a new game.

That might not help if there is a game logic bug. It could help if the issue was - again - a humongous image (not necessarily on disk but rather in memory, so largely diagnosable as 'too high resolution').

Does anyone know where to change the things in where I interact with my girls with their Advance training? regarding the amount of times per day...

Yes.

...how much energy they spent per training...

Yes. BKclasses.rpy, lines about 5991-6069. Look for en = -...

...and what not?

Possibly, depending on what's what and what's not.

 

[blanlasomebody]

Is there a way to increase the maximum bedrooms in a brothel? I've tried the one Kite80 mentioned but it doesn't seems to work

 

[Jman9]

Is there a way to increase the maximum bedrooms in a brothel?

Yes.

 

[dualblades730]

Hey goldo00 , I remember asking in the forum before it got closed down about the possibility of having certain girls unable to sex with customers. The idea is that there were some specific girls that I wanted to work for me in the brothel as either servers or dancers, but essential keep their purity (body) for the player themselves and limit/forbid their random "sex acts" with customers.

There were a few recommendations by the community in the forum to either add an option to toggle this on/off in the menu, or even add a new item that forbids girls from having sexual acts with customers.

Just wondering if there was any update on this idea and if it is still something you might consider in the future? Cheers

 

[SirDraconis]

Are we going to be able to pimp Sill out or let gio have sex with her more , god thats so hot

 

[Alrunes]

Does anyone know how the Headhunter works? I put in a six trait order, yet, she arrived with only three. I also inputted to make the girl an Original, that didn't happen either. Currently, I'm using Trait King, HH, ChrisJobMod, and King'sway on ver. 0.2 with the patch. Does the HH order take into account your current cash? My gold was lower than what I imagined the price tag would be for the girl. Some insight would be appreciated.

 

[Jman9]

Does anyone know how the Headhunter works?

A little.

I put in a six trait order, yet, she arrived with only three.

The six-trait regime is a holdover from Bonanza. Vanilla limits you to two and Trait King to 1-3 (at chargen), depending on a random roll. So picking more than three means you specify a pool from which to draw traits. I could have just disabled the extra picks, but someone might want want to fiddle with trait limits themselves, and having built-in support for up to six isn't so bad, is it?

Similarly, you're not going to get a lot of negative traits if you pick more than one. You'll usually just lower the price a bit in return for not getting that exact negative trait. TK, again, allows for more negative traits on select girls, so you might get what you wished for.

There is also the bug/feature that the HH does not always follow your order. Which is the origin of the 'haggle' button.

I also inputted to make the girl an Original, that didn't happen either.

Can't reproduce. I suspect you might have run out of originals (i.e. they're all in the game already). Or, well, how are you identifying originals?

Does the HH order take into account your current cash?

Only insofar as to block you from ordering if you're too poor to pay the advance.

My gold was lower than what I imagined the price tag would be for the girl.

The price tag has two components: the HH fee and the 'real' price. You pay about half the fee in advance, and the second half plus buying price later. It is always possible to skip the price and send her to the market to wait until your gold grows again, that's risky as she'll probably disappear quite soon. And you can leave both unpaid and accrue some really bad interest for every day the HH has to feed your girl.

In any case, the price tags were supposed to be exorbitant based on girl prices. Since vanilla girl prices are a joke compared to what Bonanza's prices used to be... Well, you're actually getting off lightly.



Edit2: I updated the HH a little, to fix some bugginess related to getting original girls.

Do note that trying to order an already existing original can lead to results you might think strange at first glance. That's because the mod+game defaults to looking for originals over the specified character ('cos you paid for an original ), and girls with least number of occurrences if it can't find your specified target. Whether such a rare girl can or cannot be an original is what determines whether you get an original in the end, even if the game could find you an original from among the more common girls.

If there are cries of outrage, I might think about this a bit.



Edit:

Are we going to be able to pimp Sill out...

Wasn't there a Sill pack? That's the closest you're going to get.
I did have a mechanic for making Sill a temp slave, but that was not something easily ported back to vanilla, and will thus likely stay in the dustbin.

 

[SirDraconis]

A little.


The six-trait regime is a holdover from Bonanza. Vanilla limits you to two and Trait King to 1-3 (at chargen), depending on a random roll. So picking more than three means you specify a pool from which to draw traits. I could have just disabled the extra picks, but someone might want want to fiddle with trait limits themselves, and having built-in support for up to six isn't so bad, is it?

Similarly, you're not going to get a lot of negative traits if you pick more than one. You'll usually just lower the price a bit in return for not getting that exact negative trait. TK, again, allows for more negative traits on select girls, so you might get what you wished for.

There is also the bug/feature that the HH does not always follow your order. Which is the origin of the 'haggle' button.


Can't reproduce. I suspect you might have run out of originals (i.e. they're all in the game already). Or, well, how are you identifying originals?


Only insofar as to block you from ordering if you're too poor to pay the advance.


The price tag has two components: the HH fee and the 'real' price. You pay about half the fee in advance, and the second half plus buying price later. It is always possible to skip the price and send her to the market to wait until your gold grows again, that's risky as she'll probably disappear quite soon. And you can leave both unpaid and accrue some really bad interest for every day the HH has to feed your girl.

In any case, the price tags were supposed to be exorbitant based on girl prices. Since vanilla girl prices are a joke compared to what Bonanza's prices used to be... Well, you're actually getting off lightly.



Edit2: I updated the HH a little, to fix some bugginess related to getting original girls.

Do note that trying to order an already existing original can lead to results you might think strange at first glance. That's because the mod+game defaults to looking for originals over the specified character ('cos you paid for an original ), and girls with least number of occurrences if it can't find your specified target. Whether such a rare girl can or cannot be an original is what determines whether you get an original in the end, even if the game could find you an original from among the more common girls.

If there are cries of outrage, I might think about this a bit.



Edit:


Wasn't there a Sill pack? That's the closest you're going to get.
I did have a mechanic for making Sill a temp slave, but that was not something easily ported back to vanilla, and will thus likely stay in the dustbin.

There is a Sill pack but from what i can see in playing it does not work with the new current version, she will not show up in the slave market at all even after constant refreshes, unless im doing something wrong not sure? XD

 

[Jman9]

As I recall, the Sill from that pack was a unique free girl, so you're only ever getting one of her and she won't show up on the slave market.

 

[SirDraconis]

As I recall, the Sill from that pack was a unique free girl, so you're only ever getting one of her and she won't show up on the slave market.

Ah thank you so she just wandering around the city somewhere, sweet

 

[Jman9]

That, or she's not in the game yet. So you need to either wait, recycle fresh girls via the console or cheats, or Headhunt her onto the streets.

 

[Leortha]

Ah thank you so she just wandering around the city somewhere, sweet

And if you want to get rid of that behavior, either edit or remove the _BK.INI file from the girl pack and start a new game. Editing it is better, but you need to know what changes to make. Removing it is the easier way.

 

[Jman9]

Removing the .ini also removes the small tweaks that make her more 'believable', though. I think she was made free exactly because it'd be weird to see a 'Schrödinger's Sill' both in the brothel and on the slave market at once. There are some excuses made for why she might be running around the city.

 

[Anarys]

Hey guys, I'm playing a Wizard. Is there a way to remove/change "active" spells when they are added to the Active bar at the bottom? I can't seem to change my auras when they turn purple.

 

[Jman9]

By purple, you mean auto-cast? I don't think one can just dismiss an active aura. Disable auto-cast, wait until next day for the spell to run out, recast another.

 

[Anarys]

By purple, you mean auto-cast? I don't think one can just dismiss an active aura. Disable auto-cast, wait until next day for the spell to run out, recast another.

Yes, I think the spell is bound whether it's a day or night spell. I wish the casting was more clear...

 

[Jman9]

Well, you can always just right-click to make it auto-cast but not cast it. That allows you to change spells at the cost of not getting the boost for daily interactions with your girls.

 

[Anarys]

Is there a point in this game where the Threat level is too high and you eventually get a game over, even when you are at the last area? Is there a way to reset it? Is there a New Game +?