VN Ren'Py Abandoned But I'm the Bad Guy? [v0.081] [DLGB]

[Hyperserver]

I always find it quite amusing when games are presented with an MC that isn't completely heterosexual. The usual clamouring of "I don't want to see nasty gay stuff", "there should be a label/tag", etc etc, but those same complainers don't apparently have any issue with the MC basically having the opportunity to rape a pre-pubescent girl in the previous update.

Great moral compass there, quite biblical.

i only can speak for my part:
i also disliked the rape last time - therefore i skipped it (played the game in a way i avoided it) - still the rape tag was already there the time i played.
Compared to this update: The issue here has been, that the gay tag was missing (which is fixed now and all is fine).
I also have nothing against gay at all - just hiding behing "it's just a trap - it's NOT gay" is ridiculous.
If people want to see gay content - fine - nothing against about that - but PLEASE call it gay as it is and not "uh - it's just trap - nothing gay ..."

I am fine with every kink - as long as it's avoidable AND it's propper tagged, so that i know what i have to expect - nothing more

 

[Trono-10]

Great moral compass there, quite biblical.

I don't mind that. Fetishes are what they are and I'm not sure it makes sense to debate ethics about it. So long as it's fiction who cares. I have no problem understanding that people could be turned on by rape/loli stuff but revulsed at the mere sight of a whole 2 dicks present on screen at the same time.
I just wish they wouldn't be so damn loud and dramatic about it.
This game never hid where it was going with Riley, it shouldn't come as a surprise and it is skippable. Just because this one part of a cohesive narrative(that you can easily avoid) doesn't suit your tastes doesn't make it shit.
The pacing of the updates is more than fair so if you really need your fix of manly man shoving his manly cock in a womanly woman/teen girl; I'm sure you can find a game that suit your tastes elsewhere on this site to bide your time.

 

[Maverick1965]

i only can speak for my part:
i also disliked the rape last time - therefore i skipped it (played the game in a way i avoided it) - still the rape tag was there.
the issue here is now that the gay tag was missing (which is fixed now and all is fine)

I am fine with every kink - as long as it's avoidable AND it's propper tagged, so that i know what i have to expect - nothing more

Quite so. Tags show the flow of a given game. If that's your thing great, if it's not and avoidable, great, if unavoidable, no harm, no foul. Not the game for that person. But when others routinely come into threads and bitch and moan about bi- or gay male content...? Seriously, get a grip.

For myself, I have a deep-seated dislike for NTR. Can't understand someone wanting to play a character that has their LIs banged by everyone else except themselves. But hey, their kink and if they want to be a cuck, more power to their opponent's hand. That said, do I go into threads where it's quite clearly labelled as NTR heavy to bitch and moan? Nope.

 

[Hyperserver]

Quite so. Tags show the flow of a given game. If that's your thing great, if it's not and avoidable, great, if unavoidable, no harm, no foul. Not the game for that person. But when others routinely come into threads and bitch and moan about bi- or gay male content...? Seriously, get a grip.

For myself, I have a deep-seated dislike for NTR. Can't understand someone wanting to play a character that has their LIs banged by everyone else except themselves. But hey, their kink and if they want to be a cuck, more power to their opponent's hand. That said, do I go into threads where it's quite clearly labelled as NTR heavy to bitch and moan? Nope.

100%
(but only if tags are correct - of course)

 

[Krynh]

Ladies and gentlemen, with the recent discussions, I think we can all agree now. Traps are gay.

Shhh. If it's with a Trap it's not gay

 

[sup3rbreakout]

Shhh. If it's with a Trap it's not gay

It's only gay if the balls touch. (which they will)

 

[Hellster]

Shhh. If it's with a Trap it's not gay

Or as the MC said

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[DirtyMario]

It's certainly clear by now (version 0.039) that the MC is indeed into women and that he's treating the Trap/son as a female (depending on the options you choose I suppose?).

I thought it's quite clear that MC is just an enormous asshole that is "done with society" and will stick his dong into anything and everything as long as it gets him off. If that anything agrees or is even concious at that point isn't that important.
At least that's the thing that grabbed people about this game, playing the bad guy, and I agree that it's what makes it stand out of the crowd.
Looking forward to more adventures of Kratos, the more immoral and tasteless, the better.

I'm just a bit bummed that the hot and curvy girl had to get "sacrificed" last episode, I would have much rather kept her in the game and left hydrocephalus girl out on the rocks.

That said, maybe she will wake up and not remember anything. We'll run into her again and leave her in a shitty situation again. And again. And again.
That would be a hilarious running gag, and she wouldn't be out of the game so fast.

 

[TheSmoothCriminal]

I thought it's quite clear that MC is just an enormous asshole that is "done with society" and will stick his dong into anything and everything as long as it gets him off. If that anything agrees or is even concious at that point isn't that important.
At least that's the thing that grabbed people about this game, playing the bad guy, and I agree that it's what makes it stand out of the crowd.
Looking forward to more adventures of Kratos, the more immoral and tasteless, the better.

I'm just a bit bummed that the hot and curvy girl had to get "sacrificed" last episode, I would have much rather kept her in the game and left hydrocephalus girl out on the rocks.

That said, maybe she will wake up and not remember anything. We'll run into her again and leave her in a shitty situation again. And again. And again.
That would be a hilarious running gag, and she wouldn't be out of the game so fast.

I get the feeling she will be back and I can only hope we can continue the corruption going and get to the good content with her, without resorting to rape. She even mentions exactly where she will be, though I'm not sure I believe there will not be consequences for those who chose the rape option.

 

[ArturiousDesign]

My god, the shower scene was already one of my favorites but now the shower scene is my favorite.
Love the interactions between those two and Riley's slow realisation that MAYBE he's gay.

I also love that the meta debate can be answered by the characters/author:

"This is gay eww! shit update"
"Traps aren't gay."
"Technically traps are gay."
MC: "It's only gay if the tips touch."
Riley: "Boop."
Vinyard : Yep, it's gay. So what?

This game really is one of a kind; keep up the good work.

the boop was my fav part. Sneaky little homo. I can't wait for more "totally not gay, cmon guys" content with Penny.

 

[Hyperserver]

I'm just a bit bummed that the hot and curvy girl had to get "sacrificed" last episode, I would have much rather kept her in the game and left hydrocephalus girl out on the rocks.

That said, maybe she will wake up and not remember anything. We'll run into her again and leave her in a shitty situation again. And again. And again.
That would be a hilarious running gag, and she wouldn't be out of the game so fast.

I get the feeling she will be back and I can only hope we can continue the corruption going and get to the good content with her, without resorting to rape. She even mentions exactly where she will be, though I'm not sure I believe there will not be consequences for those who chose the rape option.

Exactly - not every player has taken the rape path - so there is no reason to end content with her. She clearly gave signals that she is up for more. I guess there's a corruption path following.
Not sure how the rape path will end - hope fully she will tell the police and MC gets arrested next update - lol

 

[TheSmoothCriminal]

Exactly - not every player has taken the rape path - so there is no reason to end content with her. She clearly gave signals that she is up for more. I guess there's a corruption path following.
Not sure how the rape path will end - hope fully she will tell the police and MC gets arrested next update - lol

I mean there was even two witnesses....

Though they didn't seem to notice the girl was most definately not a fully grown girl he had bent over. So porn game logic suggests "totally nothing bad happened there" so... moving on...

 

[darkseth]

After the girl in a yellow bikini makes a blowjob on you today it closes, but if you have the mod to help with the choices the game continues without image what is the whole content?

 

[DirtyMario]

Not sure how the rape path will end - hope fully she will tell the police and MC gets arrested next update - lol

Somehow I doubt that. It's a porn VN.
Wouldn't be very fun if after every update you had a chance of your crimes on humanity catching up with you and you end up in jail.

 

[Hyperserver]

Somehow I doubt that. It's a porn VN.
Wouldn't be very fun if after every update you had a chance of your crimes on humanity catching up with you and you end up in jail.

And how do ya think it could be resolved? The girl comming to MC again, asking to rape her again? like "Hey, can you please rape me again, because i really didn't like it?"

 

[mirian]

I think the girl in yellow could participate a little more in the game, yes, the scene with Riley was kind of disappointing and could have taken advantage of the robbery for MC to comfort mother and daughter.

 

[dougiehouser]

There is no "discussion" that isn't improved by the inclusion of a meme, so here's my gold plated addition:


On a separate note, is all the content in this gonna be anal?
There's no vaginal sex tag and it's not in the planned so maybe not, but better to ask than continue and end up disappointed.

 

[mirian]

I don't understand much about how the game is created and I'm not criticizing it, but why in a 980mb update 85% of the images from the previous version are repeated. Couldn't it just have new scenes?

 

[Hyperserver]

I don't understand much about how the game is created and I'm not criticizing it, but why in a 980mb update 85% of the images from the previous version are repeated. Couldn't it just have new scenes?

not everyone is playing every update - so NO ... it can't be so.
If you do updates by patches, people will have to do several patches after each other.
If you do both - full download and also patches, you have to do additional work to script both
And finally, what about if the dev changes some code in previous versions? or do another game mechanics - meaning changes within the main script ... and so on.

Pure update patches are always a bad idea - best to do plain full updates

There is a reason why nearly all games do full updates rather than patches

 

[DirtyMario]

And how do ya think it could be resolved? The girl comming to MC again, asking to rape her again? like "Hey, can you please rape me again, because i really didn't like it?"

Oh there are several ways. It was obviously a pretty traumatic experience and she was switched off quite fast. Maybe she develops selective amnesia.
Or she didn't quite register who did it, was found with the woofie stuck inside her and he gets all the blame.
Or she was out on that rock for a longer time and humanity isn't quite so noble, so MC was just one of several people that took a turn.
These are all very uncomfortable options so I wouldn't put it past the dev to consider one of them, or a different one entirely.