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ghjghjghj

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Dec 10, 2018
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Thank fuck skippable transitions are defaults. And I've barely gotten a dozen screens in yet.

We'll see, but so far I'm getting the impression the modeling of the scenes (not the main character models themselves, necessarily) might be a little... low effort. Everybody seems to be in about the same pose as everybody else, and seems to maintain the pose all the time. Even when they're described as laying and sitting, they're just... standing there. But maybe it gets better as it goes. Still not a great first impression.
 

AlexTorch

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Jun 22, 2017
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Not a bad game, but damn, i hate repetitions, i know that the game is kinda like "Edge of Tomorrow" but even knowing what to do, i still lost myself in the game, i feel like there is literally the exact way to do every single action, and not the "you fuck up a lot of times until you know what to do" also look like you cannot progress with all the girls in a single loop.
 

13ry4n

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Aug 14, 2018
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Yeah, at this point, I feel the need to just ask for a straight walkthrough. No matter what I do it seems like the porn date seems to get replaced with a sleep date. The coy hints that have been given haven't been all that helpful either.

My enjoyment of this game has been severly curtailed by this trial and error thing where it's not super clear where I have erred.
 

Epsilon66

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Nov 15, 2018
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I'm not sure if that was a joke or not
Not a joke. Its a checklist of big events for each character. Thinking of what the closest event to each gave me some clues, like the book progress on jenny. Admittedly for Alex its the least helpful.
 

Anmity

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Jul 13, 2020
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For the titty monster achievement, I finally managed to get it. I don't know if this is the only possible way to do it, I don't really care to figure out every possible configuration, but figured I'd share anyway. Since I haven't checked any of the variables in the game or anything, I'm just gonna post all of the options in the playthrough that it unlocked in for me.

First off, I'm at 32 corruption total, 20 corruption in use.
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You most likely don't need to select all of these options in exactly this configuration (particularly if the character is entirely unrelated) but it took me a few tries with different configurations that were very similar that had me unable to get the first scene if I also tried triggering the second scene, so it might still be a good idea to follow it 100%

Hope it helps.
 

Nunu312

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Jul 25, 2018
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For the titty monster achievement, I finally managed to get it. I don't know if this is the only possible way to do it, I don't really care to figure out every possible configuration, but figured I'd share anyway. Since I haven't checked any of the variables in the game or anything, I'm just gonna post all of the options in the playthrough that it unlocked in for me.

First off, I'm at 32 corruption total, 20 corruption in use.
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You most likely don't need to select all of these options in exactly this configuration (particularly if the character is entirely unrelated) but it took me a few tries with different configurations that were very similar that had me unable to get the first scene if I also tried triggering the second scene, so it might still be a good idea to follow it 100%

Hope it helps.
Only one minor flaw, but I've cut away all the unnecessary stuff as well. The main goal is to get 3 love with Alex, which can be pretty easy, if you interact with her at all. You actually need 5 but you will get 2 if you use "wanna play like wer're kids". The only other thing you need is to do is talk to Sami and the rest follows through on it's own. Also you have to not get Alex off on Saturday night.
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Anyway I just did a patreon release and I feel like I should talk about all the questions people have been saying but it's like 4am... I'll do it tomorrow.
 
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Axelfire

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Only one minor flaw, but I've cut away all the unnecessary stuff as well. The main goal is to get 3 love with Alex, which can be pretty easy, if you interact with her at all. You actually need 5 but you will get 2 if you use "wanna play like wer're kids". The only other thing you need is to do is talk to Sami and the rest follows through on it's own. Also you have to not get Alex off on Saturday night.
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Anyway I just did a patreon release and I feel like I should talk about all the questions people have been saying but it's like 4am... I'll do it tomorrow.
damn two releases in a month you spoil us
 

DjinneNZ

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Jan 23, 2018
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Is the BE content going to be a dream sequence, or "real"? Because if Alex gets her wish that would be incredible.
 

Nunu312

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So, a novel by Nunu:

Game Complexity
The largest feedback I got from the previous public release was about game flow. There was a significant amount of confusion and frustration in what people were saying. This is something I knew was going to be an issue and I tried to solve it with half measures while I designed something better, which is a decision that in retrospect I feel hurt the previous game release. So this is really a two pronged issue, firstly the game is too complex and secondly the game does not adequately explain objectives and progress to the player.

The first issue on game complexity is something I have thought a great deal about over the past week. What would a less complex version of this game even look like? If I remove some choice it makes no difference, do I just push it back into a full Kinetic Novel? Development would be easier for sure, the story would be easily followed and it wouldn't even hurt that bad as everyone has been very complimentary about the quality of my writing. But at the end of the day that isn't the game I want to make. Maybe I'll do the occasional build that includes a KN version just for those few who want to play the game that way. After all I want everyone to enjoy what I make, some people that isn't going to work for as they just aren't into mega boobs, but when a person honestly tries to enjoy the game and can't because of my design decisions, well that stings me real bad. If I can do something reasonably easy like a KN version that might let them enjoy my game then I am on board with that. What do you guys think?

Similarly on the game being overly complex, I am working on ways around that. I'm not looking to necessarily make my dialogue trees smaller, I am looking to increase the ways that you can access content and loosen restrictions about how you can access that content. Things like one date overwriting another work in my mind and make sense, it is unnecessary and will be cut going forward. They are just small changes for now but as the game continues to grow there will be more and more cross paths. This is things like being able to trigger Alex masturbating for Lina to watch more easily and in more ways at corruption level 2 than 1. I do realise that all this is technically solving complexity with complexity, but my design theory is that more paths to success lead to less frustration.

Upside of Complexity
One of the reasons this game takes place in a secluded location over basically two days is because I wanted there to be a lot of interplay between the characters. I wanted the player to be able to interact and mold the world with their actions, which is possible but untenable over a larger scope. I like that if you do something other characters will react to it, individual characters don't exist in a vacuum, only crossing over when plot demands it for progress. One of the scenes I wrote for the latest release are to do with these interactions, yes there is some unique content for it but it doesn't lead to progression, it's just the characters having fun. Maybe one day it will lead to progression as I pick up the issue at a later corruption level, as long as it doesn't make the game too complex.

Guides
The second issue of explaining the game better, as I said I had building guides from the simplest to the more complex. That wasn't solving problems, so now we are going most complex first:
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It's a flowchart that fills itself out. When you see options they appear on the chart and stay that way forever, the option you take this run will be highlighted. Similarly passed checks are in green and failed checks are in red, I even drew some little icons for showing things. You also get to see the current state of things of the left there. The next step for it is to also allow you to navigate between scenes for total information control by the player. It is in the current patreon build but only for the first few scenes, the charts are time consuming to make and I don't think I will be doing a public release until they are done. Hopefully that will be by next thursday so I can maintain my poorly thought out idea for fortnightly public releases, but I'm just going to say this:
There will be no public release until this system is finished, no more half measures.

Animations
It's done, they are in the latest patreon build. Well two of them anyway, in one scene. I will be going back through and adding them to existing scenes where I think they will fit. The video quality took a hit with the unholy arrangement of programs I ran it through, but that's a perfectly solvable problem that will be solved. That being said it's not like it's bad... it's just not as good as I want.

Breast Expansion
The game now canonically contains breast expansion, but I wouldn't put the tag on it yet. It's one tiny scene in the post loop rundown and it's not much growth. Lets earn those tags. The question of will the breast expansion be real? Breast growth will definitely be real, full on expansion I want to be real (And optional for those who aren't interested in it) but I'm not quite sure how I'll work it in yet. It is likely that the next BE scene I write will be a dream, half because I'm not sure where it will end up but also because I haven't progressed far enough into the plot points for the relevant pieces to be in place for the scene to actually happen. As the development progresses these dreams may very well turn into reality.

Pregnancy and Lactation
They're coming, one sooner than the other.

More Character Sprites
I did hear one person say that they were disappointed that when I say a character sits down that the sprite doesn't reflect this. There are a lot of great games that do this, with individual renders for every situation. In a perfect world my game would be one of them, but in all honesty that takes a lot of time away from scene writing. I WOULD like to increase the number and expressiveness of the sprites and ran some tests on it before but haven't been able to find a good balance. It would be nice if the characters moved around more and showed their expressions and it's something I'll be looking into as development progresses.

Gallery Feature
I understand what this would look like in other games, but for me I blur the lines between what is and isn't a scene, then the scene itself may rely on half a dozen variables from outside the scene itself. All that being said these are solvable problems and the more I talk about them the more solid the issue becomes in my mind. I view a gallery as not a question of if, but when, at the same time, I don't think it will be soon.

Anyway... that's all for now.
 

Axelfire

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Aug 6, 2016
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kind of sad we won't be getting the most recent patron release, but all told the post is really encouraging!
 

Lysergic

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How in the world do you trigger Lina's scenes? The hints aren't very helpful
 

Pokemun

Newbie
Jul 20, 2020
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I really love your take on the visual novel genre, the corruption points and earnable perks are really cool.

You are doing a lot of stuff right, the luckstones were a big help, because finding paths is difficult and somewhat frustrating. I'm glad you are putting the decision trees and a tracker for love and mood in the game, that will make a huge difference.

Really looking forward to the pregnancy content, are we going to be able to get multiple characters pregnant at once?

Keep up the amazing work!
 
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DickBobyson

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Dec 25, 2018
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Might have held some promise. but I detest beach ball tiddies.
obviously the game isnt for you then. Why does everyone feel the need to share their opinion that the boobs are "too big". Its odd, its the only aspect people feel the need to shove their opinions about on f95. As if the dev should stop what they are doing right now and completely reimage the game for these people.
 

DickBobyson

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Dec 25, 2018
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Good job

But seriously because always in this type of game people complain about the sizes of the Booba I can't stand the Futa content but you won't see any message from me saying "The game has too many Futas characters"
Same. Absolutely hate futas (because in my opinion its a step away from gay porn), but yet you dont see me or anyonein the community complain when there is futa and DEMAND the dev change it, only when it comes to tit sizes. Strange how that works, huh?
 
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