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Sama変態

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Welp, things are like that. Poring needs to reconsider things. Maybe the game will go under another title and get steam friendly, maybe there will be an uncensored release, maybe there won't be any of those things and the castle will rest in peace... There are lots of options that Poring has to manage and decide on. The steam response was pretty vague so meh, there's nothing that can be done for the Castle there. Time will tell what's the path he decided to move on.
 
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By the way, version 0.3.4 and 0.3.4a got released. Bug fixes.

※V0.3.4α& V0.3.4 Patch notes

Patch Notes
‧Corrected the dialogue of the guide's in in virginity mode.
‧Fixed Japanese translation and missing characters.
‧Fix the problem of getting stuck when caught by small dolls in the Doll house.
‧Fix the problem of camera zooming after leaving Gallery mode.
‧Corrected the problem with Kuminu's dialogue.
‧Fix the problem with the title music.
 
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I'm sorry to say I'm still having issue finding the third paradise key.If I go straight on one patch it takes me directly to the boss room, if I split the paths on the fourth one there is the boss portal(middle, only one active) and then I can move to the right into the room with the unpowered doll, but once I've completed the three stages that room is just covered in cum with a note on the floor. I'm not seeing any sort of stool. Am I missing the right place?
 

Sama変態

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I'm sorry to say I'm still having issue finding the third paradise key.If I go straight on one patch it takes me directly to the boss room, if I split the paths on the fourth one there is the boss portal(middle, only one active) and then I can move to the right into the room with the unpowered doll, but once I've completed the three stages that room is just covered in cum with a note on the floor. I'm not seeing any sort of stool. Am I missing the right place?
You can go to the right room and activate the robot at the start. You don't have to clear any of the routes. Just straight to the right and do what they told you to do.
 

Sama変態

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Mother chapel will be completed. After that the castle will probably end. I say probably because he will think about finishing it there or not. He's happy that the game got attention and all the supporters that came with it. He will do the next stage while thinking about his future. So, we will have at least 1 more level. What will happen next is uncertain.
 

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This whole situation just makes me wish there was a greater acceptance for exploring "taboo" concepts in fiction. Considering it's not real... and age ratings exist... and violence and death is worse objectively... Fuck puritans that want to control other people. I'll buy this game wherever it ends up being sold.
 
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Mistervd

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Disclaimer: This gets quite ranty (and probably controversial), so buckle up or stop reading.
I really hope Poring can get the game on Steam. This is one of my favourite hentai games and shows a lot of quality. One thing I've seen a few hentai games do, to get accepted on Steam, is cut out the "offending" content and just offer it seperately (also often outside of steam) as an uncensor patch. Of course that necessitates Steam support being cooperative enough to say what exactly prevents the game from "meeting Steam standards".
Overall I have to say that Steam has become pretty disappointing in terms of their game selection over the years, there are countless absolute shitshows being published there as games every day. From scammy, cheap asset flips over games literally built with almost exclusively stolen assets to barely or just non-functional games. So with that apparent lack of quality control it seems pretty ridiculous for this game to be denied. I really hope Steam get their shit together and work something out with poring.

-This part gets extra ranty and controversial, so be warned.
About the porn purge that is going on (especially against loli hentai), in my humble opinion this is just some conservative hypocrisy bullshit again. Pretty similar to the violent video games debates, it's again all about using an actual serious problem to try and nuke something that isn't really the problem and is just more of a personal crusade. With video games it was mental illnesses and trying (and failing) to nuke video games instead of admitting that society has a problem with caring for peoples mental health; with porn the leading argument I've seen is child pornography and admittedly there was apparently some of that shit on pornhub, but that was never a prime place for that to spread. It's like nuking an entire city because a handful of the buildings there have been used for really bad stuff like human trafficking. Actions like this don't really hit the people it should be aimed at much, but everyone else gets hit pretty hard. Pornhub has become completely irrelevant to me after the purge, because all the stuff I liked is gone and I can't find anything similar on that site. Discord NSFW servers constantly struggle with the question "is it loli or is it ok?", many servers just establish their own (and often very different) rules for it and spark pretty much constant debates when they get enforced; a lot of loli stuff has effectively just had the tag removed but still exists on sites where you get 0 results when searching for loli.
All because actually hunting down the producers of child pornography and establishing better protection systems for children is too much work and wouldn't get quick results. On that note, let's remember the FBI taking over and keeping a child pornography site on the dark web (namely Playpen, you can look it up on wikipedia and news sites) up and running to catch the visitors with rather mixed results and some critics of that operation even saying they purposefully increased traffic by improving the site.
I think part of the problem is the absolute, sheer and unbridled hatred that pedophiles face (sure, I don't know if I could control myself either, if I was talking to someone who might rape my kids or their friends one day), because that means pedophiles are by default outcasts and have to keep their sexuality hidden under all circumstances. So seeking help to control their urges is out of the question out of fear of getting shunned by society or worse. Despite it being recognized as a psychiatric disorder aka a mental illness and not a choice or something. Just like no school shooter just chooses to kill people and instead is being driven there by their deteriorating mental state and the lack of help for it they receive.

OK, rant over. Mods (in case any stumble upon this), I stand by what I said above, but I respect that this might not be the place for such takes. So if I spark some fierce off-topic debate here or something, I'm OK with removing this post in the interest of keeping this a decent place. And to everyone else, I am open for debate but keep it civil and on-topic if possible, if not let's take it somewhere else.
I mean Summer Memories, the biggest game that Kagura Games ever translated, is on Steam and is doing really good even after all this time.
And that game is pure shota. With even a loli in it. It's really a gamble at this point what can be put on Steam and what can't.
 

Serifyn

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Dev posted a very long message for Patrons describing whats going on.

He states that he started CoT with the intention of putting it on Steam because he saw how other devs who made adult content were making a significant amount of money on that platform, he said that he used leftover assets from his previous game that were left out on the cutting-room floor when he was finished to 'Attack it' to begin making CoT.

He said that the game already contains almost more H-animations than a usual H-game and since the game is banned on Steam, that placing alot more effort into the game at this point seems like a waste of his time, however he said that he intends to complete Mother Chapel which might be the end of the game, but he will also try to resubmit to Steam after a while, he said that due to the number of subscribers on Patreon that he will at least finish Mother Chapel, but he is also looking for a programmer to start a new project that he can tailor to steam's restrictions.

Finally, he said that he has ambitions to make games as his career, that he came from humble means and that he could never ask for anything from his family because they never had money which is why it is so important for him to grow his business and his plan includes steam because it is the biggest platform with the most profit potential, he goes on to say that he never knew anyone who was as 'strange' as him with a full education in media/art doing action games.


I think that his plan is to finish CoT with mother chapel, then put it on DLsite, after that he may go back and edit the game and try to resummit it to steam, but that will probably take a few a few years before hes ready to do that.

Current timeline seems to be the following

Mother Chapel -> Find Programmer -> Start new game -> apply to Steam via demo - > accepted by Steam -> finish new game -> Edit CoT -> Reapply CoT to Steam with edits.

Poring has expressed interest in creating an RPG a few months ago, so it might be something like that, naturally it would be in Chinese, English and Japanese right away as CoT was.
 

Iza'

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So long story short, i might be wrong but.. Poring gonna drop this game after the Chapel level huh.
 

Succubus Hunter

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Dev posted a very long message for Patrons describing whats going on.

He states that he started CoT with the intention of putting it on Steam because he saw how other devs who made adult content were making a significant amount of money on that platform, he said that he used leftover assets from his previous game that were left out on the cutting-room floor when he was finished to 'Attack it' to begin making CoT.

He said that the game already contains almost more H-animations than a usual H-game and since the game is banned on Steam, that placing alot more effort into the game at this point seems like a waste of his time, however he said that he intends to complete Mother Chapel which might be the end of the game, but he will also try to resubmit to Steam after a while, he said that due to the number of subscribers on Patreon that he will at least finish Mother Chapel, but he is also looking for a programmer to start a new project that he can tailor to steam's restrictions.

Finally, he said that he has ambitions to make games as his career, that he came from humble means and that he could never ask for anything from his family because they never had money which is why it is so important for him to grow his business and his plan includes steam because it is the biggest platform with the most profit potential, he goes on to say that he never knew anyone who was as 'strange' as him with a full education in media/art doing action games.


I think that his plan is to finish CoT with mother chapel, then put it on DLsite, after that he may go back and edit the game and try to resummit it to steam, but that will probably take a few a few years before hes ready to do that.

Current timeline seems to be the following

Mother Chapel -> Find Programmer -> Start new game -> apply to Steam via demo - > accepted by Steam -> finish new game -> Edit CoT -> Reapply CoT to Steam with edits.

Poring has expressed interest in creating an RPG a few months ago, so it might be something like that, naturally it would be in Chinese, English and Japanese right away as CoT was.
I sure hope this issue with Steam can be rectified at least somewhat smoothly. I feel so sorry for this dev working so hard, building such a great fanbase but now having to deal with Steam reversing their decision on censorship.
 

Serifyn

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Dev confirms that he only submitted Obsidian hall, the first level. There's only one character in that entire level that could be possibility be considered loli and it could easily be an 18 year old girl, we're not talking toddler shit here, Steam never even knew about the Shota in the 3rd level as far as their reviewer is concerned.

There *has* to be something else going on here. Even Steam doesn't normally hand out total bans for something like that, they just tell you to get rid of it and try again. Either their policy changed or the dev was targeted because he is from Taiwan and his game is in full Chinese, i really believe this could be a factor. It really feels like Steam just made up some excuse and gave him the death penalty over what amounts to a traffic ticket. Go play the first level again and tell me that the Lesser Succubus is absolutely a minor.
 

Sama変態

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Of course it's ridiculous. It's not normal that steam bans a game after accepting the first level. Then when he sends the full game as it is now, it gets permbanned, no chance of changing or patching things up. There has to be something else because damn, there are games with shota and lolis on steam that sell like fucking cakes.The toughest fetish in this game might be the unbirth scenes, and they are not ban reason ims. I told him to talk with Kagura Games but he said that there's nothing to be done. I think that if he put the game on Dlsite and itch.io, steam players would buy it there regardless, but of course it wouldn't be the same. So, we wait for the chapel and then we see what the future holds.

As Poring said, things about CoT are not definitive, there are chances of changes.
 
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Noir Aurora

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Let's hope for the best but be ready for the worst. All in all, getting the Chapel level will be a win for everyone. :)
 

ZeD912

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Actually he is the legend not his game. To prioritize the game's quality and content over the attractive profit he misses out on and instead of starting over with something different to actually stick to your game no matter what is a very hard decision to make. I've been into development and sold my products privately aswell, so I know what he actually goes through with this.
Way to go, poring, way to go.

*Sorry about the grammar, I hope my sentences make sense*
 
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