Rehwyn
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Not that I suspect it'll change you mind about anything, but Divvy's other game is male or female MC (bi or lesbian). Just wanted to clarify that for any others.
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Considering that comment, aren't you obviously part of that "most unpleasant crowd" ?
I'm one of those male mc enjoyers you hate so much (though I like fmc too), and I've been nothing but supporting toward the dev. The negativity is elsewhere.
I don't think it's exactly that, but related to that. He (who by all appearances seems like a nice enough guy) made a game in which the characters - specifically the female models and worldbuilding attract a certain personality of player; and this has a strong overlap with the personalities you see on display here.
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The whole "the game is free I can do what I want because you don't pay me" is quite an arrogant stance and a very unpleasant one. Every action generates a reaction.
If you are so offended by people playing your game for free don't start sharing it on a pirate forum.
It's superflous, gender optional MCs always lean towards the male one. You never feel you are playing a female character.
Cool game, hot chicks, great renders and no grind.
What more can you ask for?
What more can you ask for?
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Agreed, especially compared to the other models in the game, but it's a fun one to play.
The early chapters are pretty rough and do look a bit uncanny at times. This is mostly due to a lack of experience when I first made CD. I plan to fix some of these renders before the Steam release, although there's not much I can do about eye size since that's just the way the characters are designed.
Absolute shit tier take.
Its fine as the audience of a free game to make requests and offer critiques, its entitled and arrogant to demand that the creator does what you want. Every action generates a reaction, and this is how you burn out ionDivvy so that they stop creating.
The issue isn't with people playing the game, the issue is players dragging ionDivvy through the dirt because they were getting burned out by Casual Desires and wanted to explore a different project they are more interested in pursuing.
As part of the audience that prefers Casual Desires over the other project, I'm also sad that ionDivvy has been partitioning less time for Casual Desires. However who am I to dictate or ridicule how ionDivvy spends their time?
Pardon me, but what a servile whitewash you posted with this!
While it is true there are some(!) players requesting forcefully this or that, it is NOT the reason so many CD fans are extremly bitter and hostile They are hostile because of all the, sometimes really obvious, lies Iondivvy posted for over a year.
If he/she would have stated openly that being close to burnout the development of CD would be stopped for a time, most fans would have been sad but understood the situation.
INSTEAD Iondivvy chose the way of lies and obfuscation! First there was the near instantly broken promise that development of "Rebel
And the dot on the I is that after he/she alienated most of the CD fanbase with constant lies and halftruths Iondivvy wonders why the fans are now so hostile.
"Most" of the fans are not at all like this. It's just the same 10 or so trolls doing their best to annoy the developer at every opportunity possible.
Very "believable", coming from a developer who has taken halftruths, lies and obfuscation to an artform. It is quite telling that there is no answer to the heady promises and excuses made for CD development, but then again, they ALL came to naught and been proven false so far.
The last 1-1 1/2 years has taught us that your word can be trusted as far as you can throw a 40 tons truck.
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Tho i am sad about the lies, I don't have a choice but to wait for the update because i am really attached to CD as it is a great game. Please update.
This is one of the most disappointing game that I've ever played. Not because the game itself is disappointing. But because the developer abandoned the game yet continued to tell everyone that they have not abandoned the game. The last update was a little over a year ago. This dev went on to pivot to another game completely yet kept telling us that this game has not been abandoned. I don't want this game to be abandoned. But what do you expect at this point? Until there is an actual update, the game has been abandoned.
Oh noes.. developer of free game had expectations of their own performance beyond their ability. Obviously deserves to be crucified for such.
Anybody jumping on the dev at that point is at least partially responsible for any additional slowdowns. When you make it so that any entry into the project is met with screaming mobs accusing someone of lying for what I assume they also feel as a personal failure, it becomes extremely hard for the dev to justify to themselves getting back into it at all.
You want more of a game? Provide payment. Provide praise. Provide patience.
Those three things will go a *lot* further toward getting a dev to move forward with a game than *any* hint of negativity ever well.
If you really think the dev is lying, or are personally offended by their comments or whatever, be the bigger person and silently walk away. Don't shank them and spoil whatever opportunity is left for the rest of the people who don't share your impatience.
Anybody jumping on the dev at that point is at least partially responsible for any additional slowdowns. When you make it so that any entry into the project is met with screaming mobs accusing someone of lying for what I assume they also feel as a personal failure, it becomes extremely hard for the dev to justify to themselves getting back into it at all.
You want more of a game? Provide payment. Provide praise. Provide patience.
Those three things will go a *lot* further toward getting a dev to move forward with a game than *any* hint of negativity ever well.
If you really think the dev is lying, or are personally offended by their comments or whatever, be the bigger person and silently walk away. Don't shank them and spoil whatever opportunity is left for the rest of the people who don't share your impatience.
Well there was a Rebel Duet Patreon update 1 day ago.
The game went from 50% completed on dec. 30 to nearly complete on jan 18 with a release date in the next 2-3 weeks acc. to the post. It even mentions that ionDivvy "originally expecting this to be a smaller and more sex-focused update, but it ended up becoming a fairly substantial one"
So everyone guess which game is more important.
And yes i was shaking my head when i saw the RD post in my email.
The game went from 50% completed on dec. 30 to nearly complete on jan 18 with a release date in the next 2-3 weeks acc. to the post. It even mentions that ionDivvy "originally expecting this to be a smaller and more sex-focused update, but it ended up becoming a fairly substantial one"
So everyone guess which game is more important.
And yes i was shaking my head when i saw the RD post in my email.
I know right? IonDivvy is a piece of crap for allocating their time however they want. How dare they spend time and energy into a project which we get to enjoy for free. Along the way they made mistakes with estimates such as project balancing, scope creeping, and burnout. Unforgivable.
Thank god I am not an indie game developer who has to put with entitled cunts like you. Get a fucking life.
What a Stuß your post is!
While there are some(!) entitled players, for most critics it is the constant lying of Iondivvy why they are so pissed! As I wrote before, if Iondivvy would have been truthful, stating openly that RD will be the main focus and so on, the CD fans would have been sad, but understood the situation.INSTEAD Iondivvy made grand promises e.g. "RD would have no or minuscle impact on CD development" and other speeches, all(!) turned out to be lies. Even now he dodges and admits only to lies he cannot weasel out anymore. He is clearly a person believing in the dogma "Why tell the truth, when a boldfaced lie will do?"
Just for example, the developer of Moonripple Lake has a lot on his plate in real life currently. He openly told the fans what is going on and that development will probably only start in spring again. While sad, since ML has serious potential, the fans understand the situation, you will not hear much grumbling in that thread.
See the difference? And that is the reason Iondivvy will never get even a Groschen from me again.
"Oh noes.. developer of free game had expectations of their own performance beyond their ability. Obviously deserves to be crucified for such."
This is such a cop out. Even if it were true, it wouldn't justify the behavior of the devs. Also, the dev has a patreon. I'm sure there are people who subbed to the patreon just to support the dev making this game.
"You want more of a game? Provide payment. Provide praise. Provide patience."
I understand this sentiment to an extent. There has not been an update to this game in over a year. At some point, the dev needs to own up to the situation. We've been given promises that were not kept. This is not new for gaming at all. Some devs have done this just to scam people (Scam Citizen).
I don't believe their is malice or purposeful ill intent by the devs. But some accountability would be nice to see from them. It wouldn't be hard for them to say "Hey, we messed up. We underestimated the workload and had contractual obligations with our other game through steam"
But that's not what's happening.
"If you really think the dev is lying, or are personally offended by their comments or whatever, be the bigger person and silently walk away."
So it's not okay to complain? Have you met gamers at all? We complain about the most innocuous shit in gaming?
And you know what? A lot those complaint are okay.
"Don't shank them and spoil whatever opportunity is left for the rest of the people who don't share your impatience."
So the problem is the complainers? Not the lack of content for over a year on a visual novel. Not the fact that promised updates were never given.
Is your whole argument that complaining hurts the feelings of developers? Good. Some criticism is deserved here. It's wild to me that people want to push this whole issues into two camps. Either you are completely fine with the developers decisions or you are actively trying to sabotage the developer. News flash, that's not the way this is going. Most of us I think would be completely fine with an apology and decent communication.