YakuzaZzz

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I think people will have more of an issue with the fact that you're acting as if the wants and likes of a fictional character actually matter in any way shape or form beyond internal character consistency. Or maybe that you seem to think that what a real, breathing person wants has to have any relevance to what happens to some random .png of a girl in a game that's primarily meant to be used as masturbation material.

If it's just a matter of being able to self-insert as a woman into the female main character (so to speak), well, understandable that you don't like it if rape fantasies are not your thing, but don't essentially call a game garbage for a purely subjective reason related to your own subjective experience.

You don't like it. Cool. That's fine. Don't act as if the dev committed some kind of sin for making a game with a character direction that you don't like.

As for your respect. Bold of you to think that it matters. Even more bold of you to assume that the respect of someone who judges like you do has any value.
To be honest that's just entitlement from her part : I know a bunch of guys in here don't understand that a girl doesn't necessarily want to be raped, or to be forced to lose her virginity : so you can let free your hate, and facepalm me as much as you want, it will only change the level of respect I could have had for you.

Bruh what ... One thing i realized on this site some people really think they have some kind of higher ground "the respect that i could have had for you "has any value hahahahaha feels like reddit sometimes, i swear im not hating i just think this shit is hilarious .
 

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To be honest that's just entitlement from her part : I know a bunch of guys in here don't understand that a girl doesn't necessarily want to be raped, or to be forced to lose her virginity ...
I too have a huge problem that it contains only forced sex. Could've been a nice game, but it's written too much from a dude's perspective, and a low-life one, for that matter.
 

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I too have a huge problem that it contains only forced sex. Could've been a nice game, but it's written too much from a dude's perspective, and a low-life one, for that matter.
I too have a huge problem that it contains only forced sex. Could've been a nice game, but it's written too much from a dude's perspective, and a low-life one, for that matter.
U know it fascinate me sometimes especially women, trans or gays get the idea all the degenerate stuff is often time written by a man when in fact most if not almost the most degenerate shit i have seen or read were mainly written by women a lot of rape stuff is written by women too, are they low life too? That's what i mean, when i say sometimes people think they have the higher ground because you don't actually like something, to whoever made it. It automatically makes them "low-life" when in reality, irl these people are married owns a company and are kicking life ass cause, they're such good person. There is a thing called real life and fictional people need to stop taking hentai games seriously or self insert them self into it .. Its not good for the mental health .
 

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in fact most if not almost the most degenerate shit i have seen or read were mainly written by women a lot of rape stuff is written by women
Yeah, this is true. Not only basically any fanfiction site proves this, it's also was a thing when "erotic novels" in the book forms hasn't been phased out by visual novels.
Male authors typically just gather harem and don't know what to do with it. Or getting distracted and turning it into historical novels like Christopher Nicole.
Overly detailed gang-rapes are almost always written by woman. Blackmail stories - almost always written by woman (and most males doesn't really understand idea of treat by social death). Lolicon and shotacon - mostly in the same situation.
 

Arikania

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Must be women that didn't live through it then...

If so many such games were written by women, then I'd appreciate them to make games that can be enjoyed by women. Getting raped, blackmailed and cohersed really isn't my idea of "fun". Doing that is more of a man's thing, and a Japanes man above all.

If any female or otherwise game makers read this post: please please please, make more games where women too can enjoy sex and eroticism!

I'm still hoping, for instance, to ever find a game with femdom where the fem is the protagonist instead of the guy being subdued. Or a harem game where a female can create a harem of men.

I welcome any suggestions.
 
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Must be women that didn't live through it then...

If so many such games were written by women, then I'd appreciate them to make games that can be enjoyed by women. Getting raped, blackmailed and cohersed really isn't my idea of "fun". Doing that is more of a man's thing, and a Japanes man above all.

If any female or otherwise game makers read this post: please please please, make more games where women too can enjoy sex and eroticism!

I'm still hoping, for instance, to ever find a game with femdom where the fem is the protagonist instead of the guy being subdued. Or a harem game where a female can create a harem of men.

I welcome any suggestions.
I mean... for most women in civilized countries, rape is that thing that happens to other people. Even if you assume that that the percentage of rapes PLUS attempted rape is something like 4 times higher than what's reported or otherwise discovered through criminal investigation, that still leads to something like ~8% of women in Japan experiencing anything like attempted rape or outright rape, based on what statistics I could find online.

That trend tends to be similar in a lot of countries outside of places like say... Africa, where the percentages become absolutely massive. I've heard some unpleasant rumors about certain muslim countries with extremist sects as well...

The point is, for the average person that gets into writing stuff like hentai or even erotica, the odds are extremely high that they've never encountered sexual abuse in their entire lives. As such, even if they're intellectually aware that, y'know, rape is a horrible thing, it doesn't stop them from doing weird things with it in their fantasies, where it's all nice and safe. Not to mention that not everyone self-inserts into the fantasy either.

This is leaving aside the fact that rape in most of these games is extremely unrealistic to the point of being ridiculous most of the times. (There are some games that treat it differently, but they're generally the exception.)

You also have to account for the fact that not everyone responds to trauma in the same way. For some victims, rape fantasies after being raped are form of catharsis, or they're simply capable of drawing a line between an unrealistic fantasy and their own experiences. It's how some veterans from wars can't stand action movies with guns in them because it triggers flashbacks, while others are perfectly fine with them. Responses to traumatic events are not universal, no matter what trauma we're talking about.

That said, I too would love to see more games where an F protagonist gathers a male harem in some capacity or another... (my tastes are extremely all over the place, heh) but sadly, that sort of thing is extremely rare. There may be games/VNs with that sort of theme in them among otome games... but those are a group of games that tend to not sell that well, and thus are unlikely to end up translated, much less end up here on F95. It's a thing that does show up in certain anime/manga if you look far enough... but those don't have hentai in them.
 

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In fact, I myself am more of a softcore fan, as you might've guessed by my posts. I love the artwork in anime, but it just diturbs me that, somehow, they almost always contain som form of violence against women.

Hence, among my favorite games are Healslut, which revolves around exhibitionism, and Dilmur, where we play a female secret agent who needs to uses her body for her work, albeit all consensual.
 

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In fact, I myself am more of a softcore fan, as you might've guessed by my posts. I love the artwork in anime, but it just diturbs me that, somehow, they almost always contain som form of violence against women.

Hence, among my favorite games are Healslut, which revolves around exhibitionism, and Dilmur, where we play a female secret agent who needs to uses her body for her work, albeit all consensual.
That's because almost always they're focused on things that are both impossible and unacceptable to enjoy in real life. Or at least, things that are extremely unlikely to happen in real in any capacity, and ultimately unacceptable or impossible to enjoy for whatever reason.

I'm not sure what kind of life you've led, what kind of country you live in, or anything really... but when it comes to a lot of Hentai, if you can't suspend your disbelief and accept that it's pure fiction that has nothing to do with reality, then, a lot of the time, you won't have a good time.

A lot of porn, Japanese or otherwise, would be pure nightmare fuel or disgusting in some manner or another, if viewed from the lens of "how would this go in reality?".

All that said, I think that particular subject has been debated long enough in this thread. We've deviated from talking about the game itself for long enough.

People that don't like it just need to accept that it has stuff that they don't like and move on. It's not like the dev will see it, and even less likely that they'd care if they did see the opinions of some random people on a pirating site of all places.
 

Pretentious Goblin

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Another Japanese game that kinda wastes its premise. That premise being contractual sex-slavery with rules and an incentive to sign off on progressively more degrading rules. I feel this would work best if the player had more agency, and there were actual incentives for the MC to sign, instead of "I put a curse on you, now you have to do what I tell you". In short, it would be hotter if consensual and without all the unnecessary hypno stuff.

Someone mentioned Healslut, despite only being a VN, it has a good example of a kinda-voluntary submission route, if not two iirc.
 
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