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masterdragonson

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is there a combat system ?
Kinda but not really. There is a point when you have to click a lot to overpower some enemies.
The godzilla type things at the beginning could lead you to believe it's combat focused along with the whole speech to fight to be champion but just a quicktime event.
 

Gremory152

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anyone got a completed save file, before the update? Recently my pc data got wipe, lost all my save. If anyone kind enough to share theirs completed save file before the update that would very nice! Ty.
 
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I've always like this game, but my game is glitched I can't tell which events ive done and which i haven't. The UI is a pain in the ass in general. I can't play sandbox games without a walkthrough mod like Lain or else I just get irritated trying every single room at every single time cycle.
 

mrttao

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Dammit. I am not happy about the cat waifu dying.
Even worse, I am 100% certain that the author is going to have kitty come back to life... which completely undermines any risk going forwards.
 
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Llamarama

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Can someone help a gopnik llama out? I'm at the pont where Maeve's help section say's "once the three chimes are sounded and the seal is broke, wait for the storm to calm down, then go to the living room at night," but I am unable to progress. Last scene I got was of MC escaping his room when Estia, Izanami, and the hellhound broke the door into his room.

Edit: Nevermind, turns out I had to visit the dojo. When in doubt, visit every single location in the game at every possible time :p
 
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DonTirri

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Yeah... killing off Emiko was a douche move. Going for the lowest common denominator to elicit an emotional response (killing off A CHILD) is not good storytelling, it's a shortcut at best.

Yeah, I get it. The Mc needed to get really, REALLY mad. But that was just a disgusting move to do. I know I won't be getting attached to any other character since who knows when the Dev needs a cheap and lazy twist to inject some drama into his game.

Not even Lessons of Love has sunk that low. And it's a fucking horror game. Just... shame on you dev, that was fucking atrocious.
 

Exeryon

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can someone help me? I don't understand how unlock the last girl, is the one in the lower right angle, and Maeve event... I totally don't understand how unlock them...
 

Exeryon

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worked with Maeve's event but total fail with the girl... I suppose I miss something in the middle...
 

DonTirri

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Geez, take a breath. Look at what that kid was getting up to before ever meeting the MC - she was playing a dangerous game all along. Hold the opinions you like, but people can go just as hard if he had taken the opposite approach: if she had been completely safe despite the narrative and her own risky actions just because she was a kid.

This is a case of "can't win for losing". Either the consequences of her own actions are allowed to occur, or she's magically safe and inured against any and all bad outcomes. One is called lazy, cruel, cheap, and so on; the other is called lazy, cowardly, a waste of a character, and so on.

Again, hold whatever opinions you like. Far be it from me to ever claim you can't. But at least this game's plot is moving forward rather than spinning its wheels and just introducing new fuckdolls. Read books, play games, watch movies - characters die all the time. Doesn't mean every story where someone gets murked (especially as a consequence of their own actions) is cheap and lazy and only doing it for drama.
See, here's the thing. He didn't have to go for the laziest move. There were options. He could've killed off aneko, which woulda been rough, but not outright despicable. He could've hurt Emiko, without killing, serving the same purpose of pissing off the MC. Hell, he could've gotten the MC hurt to trigger the reaction. Or he could've gotten Emiko killed without teasing her as an actual LI with the card and important events like the Fair one. But no. He just HAD to go for the lowest common denominator and the easiest way to tug on those heart string.

I thought about supporting with a decent tier, but after pulling shit like this, you can just forget it.

Oh and on your point about fuckdolls, its a fucking porn game using stolen assets from another porn game. If the Dev wanted to write a heart-tugging dramatic story of pain and loss, he chose the wrong damn medium.

Yes. It's true to life for characters to die randomly. But newsflash: The genre is called FANTASY. It's meant to be unrealistic you myopic manatee.
 
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AlexaSky

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Who would have guessed to get people talking about the game all he had to do was kill a puppy kitten in this case. Deplorable but it gets the job done unless you go Grimdark then the emotional reaction fades with time. Would be funny if he turns this into sleeping beauty :sneaky:
 

DonTirri

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Killing the mentally-ill sister is any less despicable than killing the kid? I'm not gonna meet you on that.

Also, what stolen assets? This isn't CK, aping shit outright from HHG. Koi is a program used to design characters. I've seen the cards for these ones - custom made.

Although ironic you mention stealing assets, as you try to use an ERB line like a closer.
In the case of Aneko it would have been a mercy-killing. Bet someone in her situation would just welcome it. Not to mention taking the one good thing out of the life of said mentally-ill sister just amplifies the despicableness of killing Emiko. So yeah. Aneko would have been the lesser evil.

Funny how you didn't address the porn-game part. Cause it's a point that kills your fuckdoll argument dead.

Also sure, they are custom made and stuff, but I highly doubt Illusion meant their engine to be used by other people to make money especially without a license.
I mean, if that truly is the case, then I stand corrected, but if it's not, they are stolen assets.

And yes, I nicked it off ERB because it's a wonderful line that many don't seem to get when it comes to movies and games. Doesn't lessen its truthfullness any less.
 

AlexaSky

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Also sure, they are custom made and stuff, but I highly doubt Illusion meant their engine to be used by other people to make money especially without a license.
I mean, if that truly is the case, then I stand corrected, but if it's not, they are stolen assets.
Pretty sure it's able to be used for commercial purposes as long as the dev has a legitimate license, doesn't try to reverse engineer it, and states somewhere that they are using it so more people are tempted to buy it.
https://f95zone.to/threads/koikatsu-is-available-for-commercial-use.49316/
 
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DonTirri

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See, but to you it would be the lesser evil. To two other people whom I just got done speaking to, they're of the opinion it would have been immeasurably worse. Can't win for losing: no matter what he did, people would have raked him over the coals.
So he should've just not done it. Simple as that. There were other ways to progress the plot outside of killing someone as I outlined. But no. Had to go for the shock value

And if you want me to focus in on the porn-game part, fine. Out and out porn game = no story at all, no gameplay. Just immediate access to all fap material: embracing that it's only there for one thing. But the mere fact that you hold strong feelings about Emiko getting killed to begin with is proof that you treated this as more than just a fap game - or else, you got really angry about a character in a fap game, which I am not going to accuse you of. As most would say that's pretty pathetic, and I'm not gonna paint you with that brush.
CoR is very much a porn game. There is fap material for every character and it's introduced very early on each characters arc. You mistake "porn game" for a "fuckfest". Two different things. A fuckfest is a flat out "hey, nice to meet you, lets fuck" while porn game has a story yes, but there is still a LOT of fucking. Like CoR. Infact considering how fast many characters go from "Hey, nice to meet you" to "I need your cock" in this game, it's almost a fuckfest.

Hell. Look at Corrupted Kingdoms. It's a porn game with a story and a lot of fucking. You don't see them going for cheap twists like this. Or look at Hail Dicktator. Again, a porn game with a story but no cheap twists (even if the latest storyarc is a complete bust).

Trying to pass off a lazy and cheap shock twist as good storytelling doesn't belong in a porn game

You mentioned Lessons in Love earlier. That, too, is a porn game. If we're gonna lump them all together under one banner because there's sex in them, let's be fair. But Selebus' own words on his game are quite similar to Zimon's, in that they want the story to be the beating heart of things rather than just window dressing. Or to quote Sel directly: "Not a sex game, but a game with sexual elements."
LiL isn't a porn game. It's a Denpa game. It doesn't pretend to be anything else than a horror game with sexual elements. Hell, the story to fucking ratio of LiL is gigantic compared to CoR. And even Selebus for all his fucked up creativity hasn't gotten to a point of killing off a child for shock value.

You can have sexual elements and not be defined solely by them. If this game didn't have anything else going for it, all characters would only function as fuckdolls - that was what I was getting at when I used the term. I mentioned it because I've seen folks angry that she got a card - suggesting sexual content was incoming - and "didn't get to do anything with her."
No matter how you try to belittle it, that is an extremely valid criticism. Every other character who had gotten a card also has sexual content for them, with the exception of Maeve and Isabel, and even in their cases it is justified to expect such content. The dev established a pattern and then broke it and now pikachufaces when people react negatively.

So no, there's no "kills your fuckdoll argument dead" to be found here. Because the argument is that without a plot, all that is left would be the porn. Mindless characters whose only use in-game is as fap material. I was saying that as long as events are taking place and a story is unfolding, it's evidence of the game making some kind of progress beyond "introducing new fuckdolls." Which again, without the story, is all you would have. No part of that was proven wrong or "killed".
As stated above. You are thinking of a fuckfest. Not a porn game. But I guess you're too busy fluffing the dev to understand why people are mad and are justified in their anger.

And fair enough. I stand corrected on the Koikatsu use.
 

DonTirri

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I mention how any outcome would have pissed people off. I understand their anger. But this is discourse: trying to get folks to see other perspectives. Which I'm gonna give up on as you have a very personal bone to pick with this game that I see now ain't no one gonna take from you. You accused it of theft, then defended CK - a game which has stolen so much that other devs have commented on how Arc is "unwelcome in their circles".

You assign labels that you think fit (Going for the oh-so-common Denpa label for LiL, as though it didn't begin with its MC fucking his underage niece after that maybe-minute of reading and choosing "jump") while telling other people that their measuring sticks are just wrong and yours aren't. You do you, chief.
And I don't understand how you are so vehement in your defense of an obviously shitty choice by a dev who had been doing well until now.

And honestly? I don't follow shit so closely as to know what CK and it's dev are disliked for. All i know is that I've enjoyed the game and the story that is being written.

I rarely venture into the comments section of games here, only when I care about a game. The stance on Koikatsu was legitimately something i didn't know, i just went by what's usually the case.

But you do you, keep defending a choice that was absolutely despicable. Maybe some other game off a kid so you can go whiteknight the dev there too.
 
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