VN Ren'Py Champions of Liberty Institute of Training [v0.83] [yahotzp]

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linkinn

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Loved the game, didn't finished it yet, but something did got me worried, the GF is my favorite character, i didn't cheat on her until the open relationship, my question is... will Imani get her way with her even so? as i read Meg even blocks MC (????) really?

I'll be sincere here, if she didn't propose the open relationship (i dont like open relationships) and the game mechanics didn't demand that i cheat on her i wouldn't cheat on her till the end of the game, reading the comments deflated my hype for the game, and i was seeing the game as pretty chill fun game, wich is rare nowadays with porn games.

In the end if that's the result i'll just rollback and let her go.
 
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Glooskabe

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Loved the game, didn't finished it yet, but something did got me worried, the GF is my favorite character, i didn't cheat on her until the open relationship, my question is... will Imani get her way with her even so? as i read Meg even blocks MC (????) really?

I'll be sincere here, if she didn't propose the open relationship (i dont like open relationships) and the game mechanics didn't demand that i cheat on her i wouldn't cheat on her till the end of the game, reading the comments deflated my hype for the game.

In the end if that's the result i'll just rollback and let her go.
The way things are currently... Yes, but the Dev rewrote/is rewriting the scene to allow the player to choose so keep a save before the end of Tuesday. (Might want to keep a save at the open relationship decision too in case you don't like what happens.) I'm not sure what you are referring to about Meg blocking MC though...
 
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linkinn

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The way things are currently... Yes, but the Dev rewrote/is rewriting the scene to allow the player to choose so keep a save before the end of Tuesday. (Might want to keep a save at the open relationship decision too in case you don't like what happens.) I'm not sure what you are referring to about Meg blocking MC though...
I probably wont like what the dev will do knowing his vision now on the whole open relationship in the game, i'll start a new save and try to fuck everything that walks (back to the common porn game) and end the relationship the first opportunity, she was my favorite character but wathever.

The "block" was a misunderstanding on my part.

Thanks for the answer.
 
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Avaron1974

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First, let me say I love all the games they create and the Ladies Volleyball Association United game is one of my favorite adult games, but small question that always bothered me about these games. Do men exist in this world or have women found some other way to reproduce.
There are no men at all, women reproduce through artificial means.

Loved the game, didn't finished it yet, but something did got me worried, the GF is my favorite character, i didn't cheat on her until the open relationship, my question is... will Imani get her way with her even so? as i read Meg even blocks MC (????) really?

I'll be sincere here, if she didn't propose the open relationship (i dont like open relationships) and the game mechanics didn't demand that i cheat on her i wouldn't cheat on her till the end of the game, reading the comments deflated my hype for the game, and i was seeing the game as pretty chill fun game, wich is rare nowadays with porn games.

In the end if that's the result i'll just rollback and let her go.
Here's the weird thing, the previous game and nearly every other character has open relationships being the norm.

I found it weird he had the MC in a mono relationship at all. Even now the MC's mother is sleeping with other people as are Mei and Imani and nearly every other character apart from Devya ... yes even little innocent Robbie is fucking people, she kinda has to.

I think some people have the wrong impression that the MC is going to be the only girl getting laid in a world where free fucking is the norm.
 

linkinn

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Here's the weird thing, the previous game and nearly every other character has open relationships being the norm.

I found it weird he had the MC in a mono relationship at all. Even now the MC's mother is sleeping with other people as are Mei and Imani and nearly every other character apart from Devya ... yes even little innocent Robbie is fucking people, she kinda has to.

I think some people have the wrong impression that the MC is going to be the only girl getting laid in a world where free fucking is the norm.
Yeah i'am good then, i haven't played his other game so i went blind on this one and liked until now. I saw harem and no tags that worried me so.. and i usually don't play fuckfests games.

I would suggest adding open relationship or wathever fits in the genres to the first post as the tag doesn't exist.
 

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I found it weird he had the MC in a mono relationship at all. Even now the MC's mother is sleeping with other people as are Mei and Imani and nearly every other character apart from Devya ... yes even little innocent Robbie is fucking people, she kinda has to.
I believe that Imani was faithful to Mei and didn't sleep with other women before. That's why she was so angry when she learned that Mei cheated on her with tonya.

Imani and Mei weren't in an open relationship.
 

Avaron1974

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I believe that Imani was faithful to Mei and didn't sleep with other women before. That's why she was so angry when she learned that Mei cheated on her with tonya.

Imani and Mei weren't in an open relationship.
Yes they were, that's what started it all off.

Imani was mad because Mei said she didn't need it but it was there.

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There are a couple of issues with this situation. First, there is no agreement between Emma and Meg that Emma is interested in watching her get it on with somebody else so Imani and Meg proceeding under the assumption that Emma will be okay with it is problematic. Imani is actually pretty aggressive about it, basically not giving either Emma or Meg a choice. She attacks Meg's pussy immediately. She also unilaterally decides to end the call over Meg's (weak) objection. This is power in the relationship/dynamic among the three of them that she has seized without the express consent of the other two. She also stole MC's time with her girlfriend. Those two have all day when Emma is unavailable in school to get their rocks off. Meg deciding to be unavailable at the only time of the day when Emma can talk to her so she can fuck somebody else is problematic. Even in an open relationship, I wouldn't tolerate that happening too often.

It would only be funny or a playful tease if it were an existing relationship and all three parties went into the encounter with full knowledge and consent. Without those elements, it's borderline abusive.
Without dragging the subject. this hit the nail on the head of what i was thinking when playing.
I am ok with the voyeurism and i understand the reason Imani is that aggressive but Emma already has enough to worry without also having her time with Meg transform into another headache.
I kept the relationship open in my playthrough to continue the meg storyline ans give her a friend outside the institute .
I am glad if the relationship between Imani and meg become more supportive and not just a way to hurt Mei .

Now we just need to see Devya tell Meg that even thought she is Emma second girlfriend she doesn't want to get in between them and Meg melting from the adorableness of the situation ;)
 

SpyderArachnid

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Yes they were, that's what started it all off.

Imani was mad because Mei said she didn't need it but it was there.

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Yeah but they weren't actually in the open relationship at the time. Mei declined it so they never had an open relationship. It wasn't until after Mei slept with Tonya, that they opened their relationship. The offer was there, but it never actually happened until after Mei cheated.
 

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Yes they were, that's what started it all off.

Imani was mad because Mei said she didn't need it but it was there.

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That means that they weren't in an open relationship. Imani proposed to open it but Mei said no. They where exclusive until Mei cheated.

Or at least that's what i understand from this dialogue.
 
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Avaron1974

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Yeah but they weren't actually in the open relationship at the time. Mei declined it so they never had an open relationship. It wasn't until after Mei slept with Tonya, that they opened their relationship. The offer was there, but it never actually happened until after Mei cheated.
All Mei had to do was ask, that's it.

Doesn't change the fact that mono relationships in that universe are extremely rare and considered unusual.

Now everyone is in an open relationship and all is well.
 

SpyderArachnid

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All Mei had to do was ask, that's it.

Doesn't change the fact that mono relationships in that universe are extremely rare and considered unusual.
How so? There is only one open relationship that we know about from the beginning and that is the one between Emma and Mei's mothers (this is before Mei cheated on Imani and opened their relationship and before Emma and Meg opened their relationship). It is the only open relationship we know of in the game.

The other girls in the game aren't in any relationships. Just messing around with each other here and there. In fact, we know of two mono relationships (before Mei and Emma open up their relationships), and then one other mono relationship after the last update (Lady Dragon and Lotus).
 

Avaron1974

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Just messing around with each other here and there.
Exactly?

And the whole thing was set up in the previous game where mono relationships were stated as being rare and everyone fucked everyone else regardless of relationship status.

and then one other mono relationship after the last update (Lady Dragon and Lotus).
They were in a relationship, no one has said anything about them not sleeping with anyone else.

Point of fact is her being on Emma's score card so will probably fuck at some point and I very highly doubt LD hasn't been banging anyone.
 

SpyderArachnid

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Exactly?

And the whole thing was set up in the previous game where mono relationships were stated as being rare and everyone fucked everyone else regardless of relationship status.
Except we're not talking about the author's previous game. We are talking about this game. A different game.


They were in a relationship, no one has said anything about them not sleeping with anyone else.

Point of fact is her being on Emma's score card so will probably fuck at some point and I very highly doubt LD hasn't been banging anyone.
All we know is they are in a relationship. We can speculate all we want about if it is open or mono, but from our perspective in game, it is a mono relationship cause we don't know anything else about it. So if we don't use it as an example, point still stands. There is only one open relationship in the game and two mono relationships. So they are not really rare or unusual. But only having three relationships to go off of doesn't really tell us anything. So who is to say what is rare or unusual?
 

Glooskabe

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All Mei had to do was ask, that's it.

Doesn't change the fact that mono relationships in that universe are extremely rare and considered unusual.

Now everyone is in an open relationship and all is well.
If Mei and Imani were in fact in an open relationship as you say, why is she so pissed off when she learns about what Mei has been up to? Also, why wouldn't Mei just tell her about it rather than keeping it a secret? It's pretty clear they were NOT in an open relationship yet.

I think you may be overstating the frequency of open relationships in the world at large. It seems to me that while open relationships/polyamory may be more common and accepted in this world, it's likely that it being the norm is limited to the volleyball culture. If it truly were the norm of the world, I think it would be pretty unlikely that both Mei and Emma would have gone off to school in monogamous relationships. Devya seems to value fidelity very highly as well. In fact, if poly/open were the norm in the world, I think it's unlikely that any of this handwringing about unfaithfulness would have happened at all. They would probably have just hooked up with whomever and reported back to their partner (or not) matter of factly. Also, Devya would likely not be as prudish (for lack of a better word at the moment) as she is.

(I see you are referring to the previous game. I didn't play that game so I am not familiar with how the issue was treated there. If you are remembering the details from that game accurately and poly/open is supposed to be the norm in the entire game world rather than just the volleyball "world" which was the setting for that game, the dev will need to address how these outliers all seemed to converge at CLIT.)

Oh, and hey, how are you doing Ava? Haven't "run into you" in awhile. Hope you are well!
 

Avaron1974

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Except we're not talking about the author's previous game. We are talking about this game. A different game.
It's a direct sequel, same rule apply ... point stands.


All we know is they are in a relationship. We can speculate all we want about if it is open or mono, but from our perspective in game, it is a mono relationship cause we don't know anything else about it. So if we don't use it as an example, point still stands. There is only one open relationship in the game and two mono relationships. So they are not really rare or unusual. But only having three relationships to go off of doesn't really tell us anything. So who is to say what is rare or unusual?
You are making massive assumptions over 1 scene about a couple no one knew about when the rules of the verse were already set.
 

Avaron1974

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If Mei and Imani were in fact in an open relationship as you say, why is she so pissed off when she learns about what Mei has been up to? Also, why wouldn't Mei just tell her about it rather than keeping it a secret? It's pretty clear they were NOT in an open relationship yet.
Covered that.

Offer was made, Mei turned it down. Could have been solved with an ask but the offer of the open was there. Mei's fault for not saying anything and Emma's for bringing it up.

I think you may be overstating the frequency of open relationships in the world at large.
I said mono relationships were rare not that open relationships were common. Relationships in general weren't really a big thing in the first game it was just sex.

Even those in relationships weren't bothered about sex with people outside of it. Sex isn't seen as anything big, just a bit of fun. Having kids with someone is the big thing.

Devya seems to value fidelity very highly as well. In fact, if poly/open were the norm in the world, I think it's unlikely that any of this handwringing about unfaithfulness would have happened at all. They would probably have just hooked up with whomever and reported back to their partner (or not) matter of factly. Also, Devya would likely not be as prudish (for lack of a better word at the moment) as she is.
That's more how she was raised and how she only has her superhero family to look up to and they have to be professional openly.


Oh, and hey, how are you doing Ava? Haven't "run into you" in awhile. Hope you are well!
Absolutely awesome thankyou hunni.

Be even better when I can go back to work. Don;t get me wrong, love spending time with my girl but there is only so much sitting around I can do before it starts to drive me batty and that happened months ago.

Hows you sweetness?
 

SpyderArachnid

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It's a direct sequel, same rule apply ... point stands.
Never played the first game and there is nothing to suggest it is a direct sequel, so I would of never know that. They are named two separate games without any relation to each other. One is about Volleyball, the other is about Super Heroes. From someone who hasn't played both, you would never know this was a direct sequel.

You are making massive assumptions over 1 scene about a couple no one knew about when the rules of the verse were already set.
Like I said, not counting the Lady Dragon and Lotus relationship, since neither of us know what their relationship status is. Was only counting the three relationships we actually know about in game (the mother's, Emma's, and Mei's).
 
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